Oil-sands criticism ‘incrementally helped’ Mulcair

petros

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Twirpington....It doesn't matter. I'm going to hassle you every chance simply because you are you. It's really ****ing fun BTW.
 

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It doesn't matter.

I know that, this is a forum on the internet. That should go without saying, that it doesn't matter how foolish you are Durpy Pete. It's not like you don't have a reputation for making foolish claims and backing away from them. My personal favourite was the aircraft contrails. In that respect you're a pea in the same pod with the Cabbage Patch Kid and Little Red Riding Hood.
 

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You bit....again? LOL good Lord!

Who was it that bit? That math challenged lure works every time. But as you said, you're going to bite every chance you get. Just wish there were bigger, more challenging fish in this pond. :lol:
 

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About 30% so far.
As far as theories and the manipulation of stats go, sure, if you say so.

Unfortunately, the artificially inflated value of oil that makes the oil sands a profitable venture, control of oil flow through OPEC, proven historical trends and a deflated American dollar, say otherwise.
 

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In the next 13 years oil production will jump from 1.2 Million Bbl a day to over 6 Million Bbl per day. By then manufacturing will be at zero?
 

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Molotov needs better advice on the scale of things. To be "in awe" at the scope of just the oil sands shows an extreme lack of sense of what is happening in western Canada. It's only been 30 years in the making to get to the point we are now. The next 10 will blow the first 30 out of the water in the pace of development.
 

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Molotov needs better advice on the scale of things. To be "in awe" at the scope of just the oil sands shows an extreme lack of sense of what is happening in western Canada. It's only been 30 years in the making to get to the point we are now. The next 10 will blow the first 30 out of the water in the pace of development.
No doubt. With the emerging markets to the south. In areas such as potash. The next ten years should prove interesting and profitable for the whole of the Nation.
 

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It's more than just potash and oil. Uranium production is about to go haywire, gold, copper, zinc, iron, PEG and RRE minerals, nat gas, diamonds and on and on. All are being or about to be shot skyward in terms of extraction and processing. I'm living in the heart of the most valuable piece of real estate on the planet.
 

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It's more than just potash and oil. Uranium production is about to go haywire, gold, copper, zinc, iron, PEG and RRE minerals, nat gas, diamonds and on and on. All are being or about to be shot skyward in terms of extraction and processing. I'm living in the heart of the most valuable piece of real estate on the planet.

Right. Let's keep it that way.
 

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Right. Let's keep it that way.

Too late for that... They're on their way to big oilsands devlp.
 

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That's a strawman. Nobody here is suggesting you plan your life according to a graph...



Hard yes, too many? No. There are always some with better insight and vision. Some economists warned about an imminent financial crash before it was apparent.

And by the way, that opinion poll isn't a prediction of the future. It's a snapshot taken in time of...public opinion. Polls like economists, some are better than others.

And as far as graphs go, I will guarantee you that the engineers and project managers that were working on the development of the new technology for reclamation of those tailings ponds you talked so much about, were looking at graphs of the results of the treatments they were investigating.
You are,your useing these graphs to push an agenda.

It's more than just potash and oil. Uranium production is about to go haywire, gold, copper, zinc, iron, PEG and RRE minerals, nat gas, diamonds and on and on. All are being or about to be shot skyward in terms of extraction and processing. I'm living in the heart of the most valuable piece of real estate on the planet.
I dont think they realize how many years of exploration go in before the first gold bar is poured or first load of ore is hauled,usually about 20 years minimum.
 

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You don't believe it will all be gone in a short time do you?

In situ though.

Theoretically, many of the same problems will exist in terms of energy required to produce and potential to affect aquifers, etc.

SAGD is very intensive and expensive, but most importantly, the eco-propaganda machine will still look to manipulate the resource to fit their agenda
 

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Someone has problems reading graphs...Manitoba and Saskatchewan 29% at the election, 34% now. BC, 33% at the election and now at 39%. Alberta, 17% at the election, 19% now. That pretty much covers the West doesn't it? :lol:
Well... a lot of this depends on the margin of error in the survey too. I would say Alberta is definitely within that MOE where BC probably isn't.

On the other hand this whole article appears to have been brought to us by Captain Obvious. I mean who would have thought that by pandering to an issue that plays more in the big 3 urban centers than anywhere else, which are also the majority of the NDP base lives, they would see an incremental gain?
 

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Well... a lot of this depends on the margin of error in the survey too. I would say Alberta is definitely within that MOE where BC probably isn't.

On the other hand this whole article appears to have been brought to us by Captain Obvious. I mean who would have thought that by pandering to an issue that plays more in the big 3 urban centers than anywhere else, which are also the majority of the NDP base lives, they would see an incremental gain?
I know lots in the patch didnt vote,too busy working but if we had to we would and then your graph would mean nothing,probably guys not working that voted and that would be NDP.

I havent voted the last 3 years
 

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Theoretically, many of the same problems will exist in terms of energy required to produce and potential to affect aquifers, etc.

SAGD is very intensive and expensive, but most importantly, the eco-propaganda machine will still look to manipulate the resource to fit their agenda
It won't bne long before the nuke is back on the table. China recently stated they are going to dump huge cash on the SK side to develope both U and bitumen extraction and processing.
 

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It won't bne long before the nuke is back on the table. China recently stated they are going to dump huge cash on the SK side to develope both U and bitumen extraction and processing.

Nuke has also been a hot topic on the AB side to provide for the energy needs to produce/process the bitumen. It was really at the forefront a couple of years ago, but has quietened down recently... Wait and see.