Oil Sand Myths

[Kakato]

Making money from rocks is all about ratios. X amount of kW in per tonne to get X amount of product out per tonne. It's a fine line for some minerals.

Strip ratio also,the price will dictate if you can mine at a 7 to 1 or a 13 to one ratio and still make your 10% for the shareholders.

 

[petros]

Strip ratio also,the price will dictate if you can mine at a 7 to 1 or a 13 to one ratio and still make your 10% for the shareholders.

It's a mine same formula still applies. I wonder if some of the over zealous realize that the least amount of energy used to make that ratio means more profit? Efficiency is king.

 

[Cabbagesandking]

I'm waiting for it to click in that copper mining, smelting and useage is far far far worse than oil ever will be be. Then what will greens do? Sends tweetsa and emails around the global via copper wiring or will they use eco-friendly smoke signals?

I find that hard to believe when the burning of oil emits 80% of the carbon content.

Those who complain about the strip mining aspect obviously havne't been to Labrador City.

As a matter of interest, I was at Labrador City and Wabush long before there was a Labrador City. Just visited the City area but worked at Wabush.

 

[gerryh]

I find that hard to believe when the burning of oil emits 80% of the carbon content.


As a matter of interest, I was at Labrador City and Wabush long before there was a Labrador City. Just visited the City area but worked at Wabush.

80% of the carbon content of what?

 

[Cabbagesandking]

80% of the carbon content of what?

Of oil. What else?

 

[Kakato]

Of oil. What else?

Good lord.
lol!

 

[lone wolf]

What happens to all the coal?

 

[Kakato]

Wow,if ignorance is bliss someone must be in heaven right now.

 

[gerryh]

Wouldn't it depend on the oil product as to what percentage of the carbon is released?

Im also assuming you are talking about burning it and the carbon being released into the air.

 

[Kakato]

We have allready seen how a bigger mine with the biggest equipment is more efficient,thats a no brainer,so that allmost makes the oilsands look pretty good.

heh

 

[Cabbagesandking]

Wouldn't it depend on the oil product as to what percentage of the carbon is released?

Im also assuming you are talking about burning it and the carbon being released into the air.

I believe that is what I wrote.

 

[gerryh]

I believe that is what I wrote.

then, why don't you elaborate.

how about just gasoline, is the percentage 80% for that?

 

[Cabbagesandking]

It needs no elaboration. I gave the figure for the burning of oil. We could prattle on about all the breakdowns but that only serves to obscure the point that the total emissions from oil extraction and use are far more than from various ores, The degree of carbon content governs.

 

[gerryh]

and in what form is this carbon released?

 

[petros]

I find that hard to believe when the burning of oil emits 80% of the carbon content.

Of course you would.

 

[gerryh]

It needs no elaboration. I gave the figure for the burning of oil. We could prattle on about all the breakdowns but that only serves to obscure the point that the total emissions from oil extraction and use are far more than from various ores, The degree of carbon content governs.

You stated burning oil only, not extraction. So you are saying that there is more carbon release when burning oil then there is for... say..... coal?

 

[petros]

It doesn't know.

 

[gerryh]

It doesn't know.

I wouldn't mind knowing where he got this "80%" figure and the context it was used in.

 

[petros]

I wouldn't mind knowing where he got this "80%" figure and the context it was used in.

Made up or a **** up like sending me a fuel consumption subsidy website. http://www.iea.org/subsidy/index.html

 

[TenPenny]

I would have to suggest that burning oil emits 100% of the carbon content, since it isn't captured and stored in the engine.
Otherwise, where does it go?

I don't know what point he's trying to make.