Whatever MF. You're finished in this thread. An utter failure. lol
And we see what giving more money to our "poor" does in Massachusetts. They trade the EBT cards (food stamps) for cash.
UN official sparks debate over Canadian food security
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Whatever MF. You're finished in this thread. An utter failure. lol
And we see what giving more money to our "poor" does in Massachusetts. They trade the EBT cards (food stamps) for cash.
rofl
Okay, well anyway. In your world food security means starvation.
Which is patently ridiculous, but if that's the level of denial you need to get to in order to manage yourself then you can join the captain for his fish n beer run.
And "food security" is such a problem in Canada. 800,000 Canadians are at risk of getting food huh? What a joke.
Well hey MF... throw more money at it. That will help right?
You seem to have captain and petros disease where you slip on my skin and pretend to know what I'm thinking.
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What I do know is you are all over the place and jumping from foot to foot. Quite unbecoming.
Petros had the same answer as you and from the same source. Your personal bias. The truth is that you have no idea. Just as Mental Floss said he does not know.
Nobody knows since no such statistics are kept. But certain it is that some do. As certain as that close to one million rely on food banks.
That's fine, but where the problem lies is in the practice of employing highly dramatic over generalizations relating to deaths as a result of starvation.
Go and reread the thread and you'll get the gist of that point
Go and reread the thread and you'll get the gist of that point
I have seen families struggle with balanced diets and I have seen families that would make you think Lays and Pepsi were a major food group. Seems to me a bit more paying attention in health class would bring a vast increase in security
No statistics are kept... but you can say you are certain that people die of starvation in Canada? Based on what?
No statistics are kept because it doesn't happen in Canada or the US. Our safety nets are so deep that our poor can actually get fat using them.
I'm with you on this one EagleSmack.
I cannot but wonder about all these claims poverty and hunger are a reality in either of our countries. Of course the aboriginal community at large will jump on the bandwagon as they have a vested interest in embarrassing the Fed's at every opportunity in both countries.
The population not of obroiginal heritage are covered more than adequately througnh welfare and other supplemental systems in place thorughout both countries as well.
I don't get where this idiot from the U.N. feels it's appropriate to focus on the nourishment aspect of the diet when what people purchase is a choice they are free to make. Would this nutbar endorse the gov't forcing welfare recipients to forego their ciggy's and booze so they can top up on protein's? How would he suggest we do this when they can't even monitor the tragedy unfolding in Syria that the whole world is aware of but the U.N waffles over.
It's time Canada take a lead role in calling for a massive reform of the U.N. and it's charter. Perhaps telling them to get their own house in order or "f-ck off" would be a place to start.
I cannot but wonder about all these claims poverty and hunger are a reality in either of our countries. Of course the aboriginal community at large will jump on the bandwagon as they have a vested interest in embarrassing the Fed's at every opportunity in both countries.
The population not of obroiginal heritage are covered more than adequately througnh welfare and other supplemental systems in place thorughout both countries as well.
I don't get where this idiot from the U.N. feels it's appropriate to focus on the nourishment aspect of the diet when what people purchase is a choice they are free to make. Would this nutbar endorse the gov't forcing welfare recipients to forego their ciggy's and booze so they can top up on protein's? How would he suggest we do this when they can't even monitor the tragedy unfolding in Syria that the whole world is aware of but the U.N waffles over.
It's time Canada take a lead role in calling for a massive reform of the U.N. and it's charter. Perhaps telling them to get their own house in order or "f-ck off" would be a place to start.
Sarcasm noted, but I find it odd that you still rail against food insecurity, while you shill NDP platforms that will increase the costs of foods. Especially foods that are far more healthy than the preprepared packaged variety.
How do you balance that internally?
Green initiatives drive up food costs.
You being an ideologue isn't pointed out because you said "No".
It's pointed out because you simply are. You rallying for action on food issues here, while you shill for green initiatives that WILL drive up food costs, all because the NDP, your party of choice, said so.
You're right, that is a good question.
How much starvation and poor diets are you willing to accept, under the NDP green initiatives?
How many?
I can buy fresh fruit and vegetables that will feed my family for a week, for less than a case of pop and a bag of chips a day.
Go find it, without it, you're just blowing hot air again.
This gov't? Hell I can remember Chretien doing it more than once.
Why Canadians go hungry
UN special rapporteur on the right to food hears from those on the margins of Manitoba’s food system
An expert from the United Nations was in Winnipeg last Friday to hear from citizens about their experiences with Canada’s food system.
Olivier De Schutter is the UN special rapporteur on the right to food, an independent position appointed by the UN Human Rights Council. As his title suggests, his mandate is to promote the right of all people to adequate food, in part by examining ways that countries throughout the world can work to overcome barriers to the realization of this right within their borders.
De Schutter arrived in Canada on May 5 for a whirlwind, 11-day, cross-country trip — the Belgian-based international human-rights law professor’s 10th mission since being appointed special rapporteur in 2008 and his first to a developed country. While here, he met with officials from all levels of government, farmers, migrant-worker groups, food-security organizations, development agencies, Aboriginal communities and the general public.
Winnipeg’s event, a two-hour workshop on poverty and the right to food, was jointly hosted by Winnipeg Harvest (which offered up the use of its vegetable-sorting room for the occasion), Food Matters Manitoba and the North End Community Renewal Corp.
Lack of access to healthy food emerged as a common theme — whether because of poverty, geography or both. Some of the approximately 100 participants in attendance spoke about being on social assistance and relying on food banks because they needed to use their food money to pay rent. Others spoke about Aboriginal people who are now unable to access traditional lands where they used to harvest wild rice or pick blueberries, the link between diet and chronic illness, the high price of nutritious food in Northern communities, and the high levels of tooth decay found among inner-city children, the result of kids being given sugary drinks to help them feel full.
Jasmine Tara, coordinator of the NECRC’s North End Food Security Network, said only three grocery stores exist in the North End, an area where residents are more likely to rely on public transportation, and where the average household income is 18% lower when compared to Winnipeg overall.
"They are all located on the outer limits of the North End, yet there are 62 corner or convenience stores throughout the area. These stores sell a limited selection of food, healthy food being the most expensive," she said. "Having healthy expensive food in a neighbourhood that has less income than anywhere else in Winnipeg is backwards and unacceptable."
"If you’re hungry, it’s really hard to learn," said Rebecca Blaikie, who ran unsuccessfully as a federal NDP candidate in Winnipeg North in 2011’s election and currently works with the Community Education Development Association’s Pathways to Education program, which offers financial, academic and social support to inner-city students out of its Stella Avenue centre.
"I really do think that we have a food apartheid in Winnipeg; if you cross the bridge it’s a whole different scene," she said.
"In a country where there is universal access to health care, why is there not universal access to food?" asked Jody Hecht, president of Winnipeg Harvest’s board of directors, to applause. "Lack of income should not be a barrier to feeding oneself and one’s family."
Though he mostly listened and took notes, De Shutter spoke twice during the event. That a rich nation such as Canada could have so many people living with hunger and poverty, De Shutter said, "is disturbing, to say the least." Noting the economic burden of poor nutrition (mostly related to health-care costs), he also suggested Canada move away from charity models of food delivery and adopt legally binding strategies that would hold governments to account if they didn’t meet established targets, adding that any policy should be crafted with input from those living in poverty.
"The poor are extremely inventive — they have to be. They know the obstacles they face; listening to them is an elemental component."
De Shutter also stressed the need for Canada to democratize its food system, one he said has become increasingly large-scale and anonymous. "We must rebuild a local, agri-food system that links local producers to urban consumers for the benefit of communities as a whole."
De Shutter’s full report will be made public once it’s complete.
News - Uptown
UN special rapporteur on the right to food hears from those on the margins of Manitoba’s food system
An expert from the United Nations was in Winnipeg last Friday to hear from citizens about their experiences with Canada’s food system.
Olivier De Schutter is the UN special rapporteur on the right to food, an independent position appointed by the UN Human Rights Council. As his title suggests, his mandate is to promote the right of all people to adequate food, in part by examining ways that countries throughout the world can work to overcome barriers to the realization of this right within their borders.
De Schutter arrived in Canada on May 5 for a whirlwind, 11-day, cross-country trip — the Belgian-based international human-rights law professor’s 10th mission since being appointed special rapporteur in 2008 and his first to a developed country. While here, he met with officials from all levels of government, farmers, migrant-worker groups, food-security organizations, development agencies, Aboriginal communities and the general public.
Winnipeg’s event, a two-hour workshop on poverty and the right to food, was jointly hosted by Winnipeg Harvest (which offered up the use of its vegetable-sorting room for the occasion), Food Matters Manitoba and the North End Community Renewal Corp.
Lack of access to healthy food emerged as a common theme — whether because of poverty, geography or both. Some of the approximately 100 participants in attendance spoke about being on social assistance and relying on food banks because they needed to use their food money to pay rent. Others spoke about Aboriginal people who are now unable to access traditional lands where they used to harvest wild rice or pick blueberries, the link between diet and chronic illness, the high price of nutritious food in Northern communities, and the high levels of tooth decay found among inner-city children, the result of kids being given sugary drinks to help them feel full.
Jasmine Tara, coordinator of the NECRC’s North End Food Security Network, said only three grocery stores exist in the North End, an area where residents are more likely to rely on public transportation, and where the average household income is 18% lower when compared to Winnipeg overall.
"They are all located on the outer limits of the North End, yet there are 62 corner or convenience stores throughout the area. These stores sell a limited selection of food, healthy food being the most expensive," she said. "Having healthy expensive food in a neighbourhood that has less income than anywhere else in Winnipeg is backwards and unacceptable."
"If you’re hungry, it’s really hard to learn," said Rebecca Blaikie, who ran unsuccessfully as a federal NDP candidate in Winnipeg North in 2011’s election and currently works with the Community Education Development Association’s Pathways to Education program, which offers financial, academic and social support to inner-city students out of its Stella Avenue centre.
"I really do think that we have a food apartheid in Winnipeg; if you cross the bridge it’s a whole different scene," she said.
"In a country where there is universal access to health care, why is there not universal access to food?" asked Jody Hecht, president of Winnipeg Harvest’s board of directors, to applause. "Lack of income should not be a barrier to feeding oneself and one’s family."
Though he mostly listened and took notes, De Shutter spoke twice during the event. That a rich nation such as Canada could have so many people living with hunger and poverty, De Shutter said, "is disturbing, to say the least." Noting the economic burden of poor nutrition (mostly related to health-care costs), he also suggested Canada move away from charity models of food delivery and adopt legally binding strategies that would hold governments to account if they didn’t meet established targets, adding that any policy should be crafted with input from those living in poverty.
"The poor are extremely inventive — they have to be. They know the obstacles they face; listening to them is an elemental component."
De Shutter also stressed the need for Canada to democratize its food system, one he said has become increasingly large-scale and anonymous. "We must rebuild a local, agri-food system that links local producers to urban consumers for the benefit of communities as a whole."
De Shutter’s full report will be made public once it’s complete.
News - Uptown
Every now and again, there will be reports in the newspapers of someone dead from starvation: particularly elderly without care. There is no secret about it. Just as it is no secret that many more die from the same cause but are not identified as such because there are many physical causes that take over. Some that I mentioned.
Thr Pharisaic nature of much of the commentary here rather surprises me. I would have expected at least some sympathy from all. Not this "Holier than thou" stuff.
If you have been keeping up you will see that I already pointed out that neglect of children or elderly that are unable to fend for themselves is not a sign of insufficient food sources.
If a person who is invalid and surrounded by food, but unable to feed his or herself will certainly die of starvation or dehydration.
Food security refers to the availability of food and one's access to it. A household is considered food-secure when its occupants do not live in hunger or fear of starvation. According to the World Resources Institute, global per capita food production has been increasing substantially for the past several decades.[1] In 2006, MSNBC reported that globally, the number of people who are overweight has surpassed the number who are undernourished – the world had more than one billion people who were overweight, and an estimated 800 million who were undernourished.[2] According to a 2004 article from the BBC, China, the world's most populous country, is suffering from an obesity epidemic.[3] In India, the second-most populous country in the world, 30 million people have been added to the ranks of the hungry since the mid-1990s and 46% of children are underweight.[4]
Worldwide around 925 million people are chronically hungry due to extreme poverty, while up to 2 billion people lack food security intermittently due to varying degrees of poverty (source: FAO, 2010). Six million children die of hunger every year – 17,000 every day.[5] As of late 2007, export restrictions and panic buying, US Dollar Depreciation,[6] increased farming for use in biofuels,[7] world oil prices at more than $100 a barrel,[8] global population growth,[9] climate change,[10] loss of agricultural land to residential and industrial development,[11][12] and growing consumer demand in China and India[13] are claimed to have pushed up the price of grain.[14][15] However, the role of some of these factors is under debate. Some argue the role of biofuel has been overplayed[16] as grain prices have come down to the levels of 2006. Nonetheless, food riots have recently taken place in many countries across the world.[17][18][19]
The ongoing global credit crisis has affected farm credits, despite a boom in commodity prices.[20] Food security is a complex topic, standing at the intersection of many disciplines.
Two commonly used definitions of food security come from the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA):
- Food security exists when all people, at all times, have physical, social[22] and economic access to sufficient, safe and nutritious food to meet their dietary needs and food preferences for an active and healthy life.[23]
- Food security for a household means access by all members at all times to enough food for an active, healthy life. Food security includes at a minimum (1) the ready availability of nutritionally adequate and safe foods, and (2) an assured ability to acquire acceptable foods in socially acceptable ways (that is, without resorting to emergency food supplies, scavenging, stealing, or other coping strategies). (USDA)[24]
Food security - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Who is lacking access to food?
If you can't feed yourself in Canada a home care aid will be provided for you to cook meals and feed you if physically unable.
If you can't cook but can fed yourself you'll be provided with meals on wheels. Just charge it to your health card.
If you can't feed yourself in Canada a home care aid will be provided for you to cook meals and feed you if physically unable.
If you can't cook but can fed yourself you'll be provided with meals on wheels. Just charge it to your health card.