Oh I've read his work before.
Sunshine was not meant literally you know. More like when the really big guy's nickname is Tiny.
Charges Finally Laid in Whistler Dog Killings
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Oh I've read his work before.
Sunshine was not meant literally you know. More like when the really big guy's nickname is Tiny.
8 more years of primary school would have done you wonders-or not
You're the one who keeps talking about bringing them in the house-ever heard of a fenced yard?
That's why potential owners are screened-does this make sense?
Wrong again-I grew up with a half malamute/half samoyed who towed us kids all over town on our toboggan.
Your dreadful grammar, execrable syntax and comical spelling errors are legend here-or as close to legend as such pathetic efforts ever become.
Note-I grew up with Work Horses-great Percheron brutes that ate tonnes of feed-I know exactly what a work animal is-and it's not always a dog.
Yes. I've been to a slaughterhouse near London ON. I went vegetarian immediately. That was over ten years ago.
Why? Having worked with kids for a year or so now, I have learned how to deal with immature people like you, quite well.
Ever heard of paws like a back hoe? A need to run? A problem with killing other domestic animals?
Of course it does. I'm amazed you figured it out.
Awesome, you grew up with a house pet that did silly pet tricks. You qualify for the average award.
A dog raised to sled, is not a dog raised to be a pet.
Only a complete moron would try and compare the two.
Compared to your legendary idiocy?
Ya, I'll take errors over what you fill posts with any day.
Ya, because the topic is work horses...:roll:
Please continue to flout your base ignorance and complete self possession for all and sundry to see.
The chronic self absorption you exhibit is a large percentage of what's wrong with this forum BTW.
correct me if i'm wrong, but these dogs were not 'really sled dogs', they were bought from someone
strictly for the purpose of this 'money making' scheme at the olympics, to take people for rides.
Is this correct?
If so, these dogs could have been placed in a shelter and gradually placed in homes, where they
could have been 'pets' for their lives.
I owned a malmute for sometime, never saw a sled in his life, made a very good pet.
I wonder why this fellow didn't make an attempt to do that.
Because he knew that no matter how disgusting and unlawful his behaviour some internet hyena would defend his actions-and time has proved him right.
I have a registered 'canadian kennel club' kennel, and have raised and shown dogs for many years, (now retired), and I know that each breed has their rescue clubs, and I also know that had these rescue clubs
for siberians/malmutes or other alaskan breeds, had
known of the possibility that these dogs were going to be 'put down', they would have come forward to do
what they could, they would have helped in some way.
People who are devoted to their dogs, will always come forward for the sake of the welfare of the animal,
and I would have done the same when I was fully involved in breeding and showing dogs.
A 'good and responsible' dog breeder, and a good dog 'club/rescue' club are first and foremost 'for' the animal, and not for
using animals for their own financial gain, then disposing them for no good reason.
It seems this man used those dogs for his own selfish financial gain, then disposed of them like garbage,
and didn't even have the 'goodness' in his heart to help them live a good life, after they helped him
make good money.
Then maybe you should STHU about things you don't know about? Because right now you're are talking out of your sorry behind.
Actually they were sled dogs. What makes a sled dog differs on the mushers opinions - some think only mushing in a race makes a sled dog, some believe recreational mushing makes a sled dog - but the point is, they were used to pull sleds, ergo they were sled dogs. Doesn't matter if they were bought for making money, or purely recreational matters.
From what I've heard from mushers who know the situation more than the media, no shelters would take them. And while most sled dogs can, when they're older, transition to a "pet", not all sled dogs can do this. Their drive is too high, especially when they're still prime age for pulling. Some dogs you just can't have as a pet and - if I remember right, the dogs here were Alaskan and Husky types - both these breeds can be harder to handle.
This is what a lot of mushers have said; had they KNOWN that this was going to happen, they would have helped; hindsight is 20-20 though.
Mushers can only take in so many dogs before they can't handle anymore, and not everyone can handle a hyperactive Alaskan or stubborn Husky.
No one's disagreeing the guy was stupid. The actual owner - not the employee who tried and failed to dispose of the dogs - was part of a committee that was formed to try and oversee the mushing community, to put out guidelines for sled dog care and so on. He is now no longer part of that because of this entire fiasco and rightfully so, as it goes against everything the committee stands for. He knew better and should have done more to appeal to the community as a whole.
He tried, just not hard enough. And as Bear said, not every home can handle sled dogs.
NO one is defending his actions; where the hell are you seeing that?!
Again you have the reading and comprehension skills of a child and seem to be unaware of how many people actually live in the world.
More empty headed Bee Ess and third/fourth hand rumour mongering.
This thread is heavily polluted with nauseating garbage from the usual suspects-it's nice for you that it all whistles past your blocked ears.
I'd have to say... pot calling kettle here.
Actually not but whatever belief floats your ill-conceived truths.
Actually, it's not. Perhaps your reading comprehension skills are less than that of a child if that's what you see.
well i'm glad there was some reaching out, by someone.
almost any dog, even sled dogs can be retrained, rehabilitated etc by people who know what they are doing.
but the average pet owner could not and would not know how to take the time to do that.
it is a very sad situation, gives another inside look at just 'how' some people's brains work, which
again shows that many humans just don't 'get it', they f*ck up again and again.
I don't care who eats dog meat etc., that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
The dogs weren't put down humanly, and made into T bone steaks, they were murdered in a very
cruel way, as the kind of person who is shooting wildly at a group of dogs, wounding some of them,
then have to catch them and slit their throats, should have the same thing done to him.
Anyway, another lesson learned, and hopefully in the future people who are selling a large group
of dogs, should be very concerned what is going to happen to them after they leave.
Taking the money, and not having any concern for the future of the dogs is also negligent, even a
small reputable dog breeder, such as I was, makes sure that every puppy that is sold is going to a
home that will nurture the puppy and is taking the puppy for the right reasons, and also does a
'followup' on every puppy after they have moved on to make sure all is well, and with the guarantee
there is a statement that says - for any reason at all, if you don't want this dog in the future, contact
me and I will take it back.
What an excellent example of projection.
Not as far as I know. From the articles I read when the story broke, they were purchased from far and wide, from sled dog breeders.
Even sled dogs can be. But the expense is prohibitive. The energy and time equally so.
My Shalamar, Ron's dog, sledders through and through. Both made excellent pets. It's a crap shoot.
As Billy Bob mentioned, rescue centers have a list of criteria one must meet to be considered for adoption. That's only for people that are willing to invest in them.
He claimed he did. There's been no evidence to the contrary.
Who's defending his actions? I stated clearly, well, clearly if you aren't an internet buffoon, that it was a complete waste of life.
Hindsight is always 20-20, except where Billy Bob is concerned. Since his head is stuck in his ass, he's simply blind.
See above.
Which one? The real world? Or the alternate reality you live in?
Says the guy whose head whistles a tune in a cross wind.
That was overly generous. You should have seen the mess he made when Tonington embarrassed him about Salmon and diseases.
Again I refer you to my earlier reply, lol.
It really is a crap shoot. I think many of the rescue adoption facilities, whitewash that a bit in the PR.
Absolutely. Having experience with sledders, I knew what I was getting into when I brought Shalamar home. We lived on a farm and had unlimited space for her.
I couldn't agree more.
I agree with you on the ignorance of what and how it was done. But I can't agree with your punitive retribution.
This is exactly why I shouldn't have even posted in this morass-subjects like this bring the drooling howling hyenas thick and fast.
It's not the first of my threads where a number of forum rejects have tried to dump their issues.
It's not the first of my threads where a number of forum rejects have tried to dump their issues.
Meh, you're more of an asshat than a drooling hyena. You really shouldn't be so hard on yourself though. I do acknowledge some of your better erstwhile contributions.
I fixed that for you.
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First, maybe if you'd known anything about the topic you might not have suffered under your stupidity being flung in your face.
Second; can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. Simple as that. Just because you're all ticked that you were proven to know jack squat about this topic or anything related to it, doesn't mean you can get all butthurt or whine about how everyone's being oh so mean to you. It's your own fault for getting called out on your crap, not ours.
Yeah, I'm like that. ;-)
Neither one of you toothless wonders has managed to prove that any sincere sustained sincere effort was made to save those dogs from a disgusting end-you have pontificated, ranted, drooled, lied and worse and in the end your posts (not surprisingly) amount to less than the paper they are written on.
Considering this is coming from a... ahem... person who doesn't even know jack about sleddogs, mushing, or the mushing community at all (which I actually do), you really don't have room to talk about anything to deal with this topic.
But I'd like to know where I at least have lied about anything? Or, are you just making stuff up for whatever ego stroke you're bent on trying to have?
Just because I won't all out condemn the man doesn't mean I support what happened. Far, far from it. The way you're acting, it's like I was there helping to pull the friggin' trigger.
I support the humane treatment of animals. The higher their level of sentience the greater their protection. I would support giving whales, dolphins and primates nearly the same rights as humans.
Our meat packing industry (a nice way to say slaughter houses) have strict laws regarding how animals are treated. I'd support strengthening those laws and increasing penalties for violations.
I'd support dogs having about the same level of protection as pigs... which BTW are more intelligent than dogs. I'd even support the production and sale of dog meat, provided the dog meat industry met the same high standards as the pig industry.
Some cultures eat dog meat... while other cultures think our meat industry is cruel and inhumane.
Unless you are a vegetarian and don't use any animal products, you can't condemn others killing animals for commercial purposes, without being a hypocrite.
I support the right of vegetarians to look down their noses at carnivores and criticize the entire animal husbandry industry...
Oh yes I also have plenty of experience with sled dogs... Huskies, malamutes and qimmiqs don't make the best pets. Their hunter instincts are near the surface. I wouldn't trust them around children. In fact I don't trust any dog around children.
Sled dogs might be quite beautiful, but fundamental they are beasts of burden. If you want a dog for a pet, I recommend a poodle or a lab based on temperament.
Our meat packing industry (a nice way to say slaughter houses) have strict laws regarding how animals are treated. I'd support strengthening those laws and increasing penalties for violations.
I'd support dogs having about the same level of protection as pigs... which BTW are more intelligent than dogs. I'd even support the production and sale of dog meat, provided the dog meat industry met the same high standards as the pig industry.
Some cultures eat dog meat... while other cultures think our meat industry is cruel and inhumane.
Unless you are a vegetarian and don't use any animal products, you can't condemn others killing animals for commercial purposes, without being a hypocrite.
I support the right of vegetarians to look down their noses at carnivores and criticize the entire animal husbandry industry...
Oh yes I also have plenty of experience with sled dogs... Huskies, malamutes and qimmiqs don't make the best pets. Their hunter instincts are near the surface. I wouldn't trust them around children. In fact I don't trust any dog around children.
Sled dogs might be quite beautiful, but fundamental they are beasts of burden. If you want a dog for a pet, I recommend a poodle or a lab based on temperament.
Are you talking to the other voices in your head?
He thinks he's the only one that knows anything about Salmon as well.
Oh good luck getting an answer. He's prone to making monumental false claims, that he will never back up.
That's because he's living in an alternate reality.