Link...I've already provided a link from Princeton University that states that science considers life starting at conception.
MPs to consider debate on when human life begins
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Link...I've already provided a link from Princeton University that states that science considers life starting at conception.
Human life, yes. Human being, no. Fetuses that are not viable are incomplete. Kind of like a germinated seed can't be called a tree.
once the egg is fertilized, there is an embryo.
Front that point forward, a woman's body is just a hotel for a developing human. The woman is not responsible for making the heart, brain, limbs, eyes,etc......she is just a host.
Front that point forward, a woman's body is just a hotel for a developing human. The woman is not responsible for making the heart, brain, limbs, eyes,etc......she is just a host.
That's not a very good definition of life or when life begins. In biology we think of life as a system of complex symmetry, where biochemical processes regulate the very processes that define life. Those biochemical processes begin when a sperm and egg fuse. We even use a name for when the individual animal begins it's life long process. It's called a zygote. A zygote certainly exists. If an unborn human doesn't exist, then there can't be an abortion, or a miscarriage, or a birth. Science moved past spontaneous generation/abiogenesis long ago, when experimenters such as Pasteur (given most of the credit) and earlier Francesco Redi provided evidence that life doesn't simply spring up from nothing.
There are many species that cannot live on their own at some phase of their development. That doesn't disqualify them from being a living member of their species.
And your opinion on aborting a 7 or 8 month old fetus - no danger to the mothers health - fetus is normal and healthy?
Unfortunately this is not a science debate. It is a matter of a few religious fanatics trying to force their views on the rest of the population. They are simply looking for a back door to ban abortion.
PHP:
Woman - 7 months pregnant
Fetus healthy
No danger to the mother if she givss birth
Mother aborts child
Agree or disagree.
If its not my child that is possibly being aborted, and I'm not the doctor involved, its none of my business.
Well, in that simple scenario, I disagree with her decision. But it's not mine to make, so it's irrelevant what I think. Much like wulfie said. None of my business.
Though, this has nothing to do with anything I said about when life begins.
can't believe you are all doing this over again, and again.
there won't be any debate, he is just a backbencher, and this matter was settled many years ago,
and won't be changing.
there won't be any debate, he is just a backbencher, and this matter was settled many years ago,
and won't be changing.
I've met anti-abortion atheists, so I doubt you can sum up any argument that simply.
When life begins? That is a scientific debate.
I'm an atheist who judges based on the evidence that life begins when the biochemistry begins, when the individual is created by joining of ovum and sperm.
Possibly. But just because I disagree with their goals doesn't mean I'm going to abandon reason.
Looks like Harper isnt interested in having the debate. Harper denounces ‘unfortunate’ bid to reopen abortion debate - The Globe and Mail
I'm guessing it is when you make your first cash donation to a political party, choosing the one that wins seems to bring extra luck ig you don't did too deep.
Luckily for some it starts at conception which can't help but expand the voter list at some point. Another personal view is that the wealth of that person can be put on a spreadsheet and a lifetime monetary value attached and a check issued to the parents that would be the monthly average for his projected worth to society. When he expires the surplus is returned to the family if it is early in life and if he lives later the spreadsheet will have to be adjusted unless starvation in old age is an option that some have no choice in.
Luckily for some it starts at conception which can't help but expand the voter list at some point. Another personal view is that the wealth of that person can be put on a spreadsheet and a lifetime monetary value attached and a check issued to the parents that would be the monthly average for his projected worth to society. When he expires the surplus is returned to the family if it is early in life and if he lives later the spreadsheet will have to be adjusted unless starvation in old age is an option that some have no choice in.