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L Gilbert

L Gilbert

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gerryh said:
Carlin was talking about some guy in the sky...... maybe I was wrong and it was more in reference to Lucy in the Sky and his LSD days. Either way, it was more fairy tale than comedy factual.
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lmao And this atheist that Dane Cook used as an example was real?


and BTW...it's Dane Cook.
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BTW, that was a typo.

SLM said:
I just think that faith, belief is such a deeply personal thing. It just comes from the deepest part of our spirit or psyche, whatever you want to call it and it can be so difficult sometimes just to understand it ourselves let alone communicate it to others. I'm often very wary of those who think they can do so.
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I tend to view faith as pretty tenuous. Many things can dislodge my faith in things. I could have faith that the next day will be sunny and then have that faith totally eradicated the next day when it's overcast. I could have faith that MHz could become totally lucid next week and have that faith decimated by his first post next week. My tendency to leaning on evidence goes far, far deeper than any tendency to lean on issues of faith.
 
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JLM said:
Obviously (to me) man was created by something/one more complex than he is.
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yeah - that'd be evolution.
He was given a brain to be able to make decisions and exercise control.
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Wrong. brains evolved, they are not "given".
Yet people want to blame "God" for anything bad that happens. I have a hard time reconciling all that.
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Well, according to the claims, then who else designed, built, manages everything? Who else is claimed to be all-knowing and all-powerful?
That is about as far as I get into "religion". The only advice I would have is follow the Golden Rule and don't dwell on the rest of it.
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It's good enough advice.

talloola said:
that is correct, it is what some believe, and what others do not believe, pretty simple.

I do not believe just as seriously as many believe, but I am not an agnostic, I don't sit
on the fence waiting to jump over to the best side, my non belief is definite, not questionable,
just as believers feel about themselves, are some of them sitting on the fence, just as agnostics are?

does that bring the believers and I to have something in common, maybe, but it is definite, we are both
very different than agnostics.
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lol Sitting on the fence? I suppose that is one way to put it. Agnostics simply admit to not knowing whether there are gods or not, and that knowing is impossible. It's a perfectly reasonable position.

JLM said:
What really baffles me is why people who don't "know" the answers themselves care what other people believe! :smile:
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Because what other people believe may have an impact on them. That's the reason why I dislike aggressive religions like Christianity and Islam and don't mind passive ones like Buddhism and Taoism.

CDNBear said:
You could, but you'd only be lying to yourself.
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Actually, that faith would simply be the hope that MHz would be lucid. Hope can't offer lies.
 
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CDNBear said:
Doesn't there have to be a spark of some evidence of sorts to fuel that hope, or it's just delusional?
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Nah, hell no. More like fantasy.
Delusion, from Merriam-Webster:
a : something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated
b : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary; also : the abnormal state marked by such beliefs
fantasy:
the free play of creative imagination

Hoping Mhz would be lucid is tantamount to hoping the Easter Bunny reveals him/herself to me next Easter.
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:D
 
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L Gilbert said:
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I tend to view faith as pretty tenuous. Many things can dislodge my faith in things. I could have faith that the next day will be sunny and then have that faith totally eradicated the next day when it's overcast. I could have faith that MHz could become totally lucid next week and have that faith decimated by his first post next week. My tendency to leaning on evidence goes far, far deeper than any tendency to lean on issues of faith.
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That's fine. You're phrasing it in terms of your view, your tendency, which as I was saying is a personal thing. It doesn't matter which side in the debate you come out on, in my mind what's important is the acknowledgement that we each have our own system of values which is right for us, but may not be right for others. It's the judging of others system of values and beliefs, be they theist or atheist, that I object to.

I have respect for other people's beliefs, be they faith based on non-faith based, but what I hold in reverence is my own personal belief system. Which is an evolving thing, speaking personally.
 
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petros said:
Many have read the bible but very very very few understand it or how it use it to it's full potential.
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How do use "Goldilocks and the Three Bears" to it's full potential? Perhaps amusing half a dozen kids in an afternoon! :lol:
 
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CDNBear said:
Ummm, there were several speakers in that video.

The gentleman that speaks at around 10:05, was quite interesting.
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The idiot after Sagan is who I am speaking of and where I shut the video off at. I'll go back and take a look at the 10 min mark.

That's the end of the video and it's Carl Sagan.... is that who you are referring to?
 
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