Two Women’s Fight For Power In Redneck Country

Goober

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PC - 74
Lib - 7
NDP - 2

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PC - 62
Lib - 16
NDP - 4
Alberta Alliance - 1

So a minority Govt is possible? Wildrose is strong in S AB - Cons - In N AB - People are pissed - Polls show many support and will vote for the WR yet do not like their policies - South AB - Figure that means tired of the Cons.
 

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Thomson: Leaders' debate could prove to be pivotal point of election

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Thomson+Leaders+debate+could+prove+pivotal+point+election/6445565/story.html

"If the public opinion polls are correct, the election race has become a too-close-to-call horse race between the ruling Progressive Conservatives and the upstart Wildrose. The race appears to be so close that the opposition parties, NDP and Liberals, could end up holding the balance of power in a minority government."

The Alberta elections is between two guy and two girls.

The Conservative cat fight has worked in the favour of the Liberal party where they will hold the balance of power.

Watch the Alberta election debates tonight and feel the panic and the pain and the emotional stress and the tears as the Wildrose and PC duke it out.


 

gerryh

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Once again you're wrong. A poll taken last night after the debate showed the Wild Rose as taking the debate. As soon as the Liberal leader said "we aren't Arkansas", I stopped listening to the idiot, plus he's a one trick pony.
 

mentalfloss

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So, I watched the debate yesterday.

Wow, what circus of stupid that was. Are Albertans really this dumb, or just lucky they have a ****ton of oil in their backyards?

The Liberal guy was even worse than the right wing hacks.

Alberta party leaders get testy during televised debate


EDMONTON — Sparks flew Thursday as the right and left squared off in a political slugfest over health care, taxation, social issues and school funding, with the biggest fireworks erupted over MLA pay and “gold-plated” severance packages.

Liberal Raj Sherman lit the fuse when he demanded that Progressive Conservative Leader Alison Redford resign from the election if she couldn’t convince her MLAs to return money they earned serving on a committee that never met.

Redford retorted that she did order her MLAs to pay back the money, but there has been no evidence offered to show that is happening and there’s skepticism retiring MLAs will return any of the $1000 a month they received since 2008.

Wildrose Leader Danielle Smith continued the onslaught when she demanded Redford immediately roll back cabinet and MLA wages the 30 per cent cabinet hiked them after the last election.

When Redford noted she had appointed a retired judge to review MLA salaries, Smith snapped: “I didn’t need a judge to tell me what to do.”

“I asked Albertans,” she said.

“Did you consult Albertans or members of your own party?” she retorted.

“It’s the same thing,” Smith snapped back.

http://www.canada.com/business/Albe...ty+during+televised+debate/6450801/story.html

 
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mentalfloss

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:)

Could be, for all the good it will do him.

Actually, there was a poll completed after the debate showing that all three remained in the same position. The "blasphemous" and "offensive" NDP candidate is the only one that shot up.
 

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Actually, there was a poll completed after the debate showing that all three remained in the same position. The "blasphemous" and "offensive" NDP candidate is the only one that shot up.

My answer was flippant, as I actually did not watch the debate.

My hope is that Smith and the Wildrose win.

Redford leaves me cold. More Nanny State crap we do NOT need.
 

Colpy

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I haven't been following, but what is Redford proposing that is "Nanny State" and how is Wildrose any different?

For starters, the .05% alcohol level limit for driving. Absolutely ludicrous, and perhaps unconstitutional. Clearly shows her mindset.

Redford's resistance to 'conscience" actions on the part of provincial employees....in other words she would force doctors to perform abortions, something done no where else in Canada.

Redford's love of the Human Rights Kangaroo Courts, against Smith promise to abolish them.

Just off the top of my head......
 

mentalfloss

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For starters, the .05% alcohol level limit for driving. Absolutely ludicrous, and perhaps unconstitutional. Clearly shows her mindset.

This depends on statistical information.

Is it true that a higher limit would reduce the number of deaths? Does the limit actually have a causal effect on death-related incidents?

You can answer these questions to get a better understanding of whether or not an alcohol limit is imperative or not. Breaking it down into some libertarian cause is infantile.

Redford's resistance to 'conscience" actions on the part of provincial employees....in other words she would force doctors to perform abortions, something done no where else in Canada.

I'm sure no one will be "forcing" doctors to perform abortions and the issue is a little more complicated than that.

Redford's love of the Human Rights Kangaroo Courts, against Smith promise to abolish them.

This is just something neocons say. Like, "Watch out for the U.N., they're gonna rape your babies!" kind of fear mongering. The truth is that these institutions have good and bad to them. Instead of taking a black and white approach to these issues, it would be more prudent (and responsible) to look at the respective issues that the institutions have dealt with, and how they could improve protocol on actually dealing with those problems.
 

JLM

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For starters, the .05% alcohol level limit for driving. Absolutely ludicrous, and perhaps unconstitutional. Clearly shows her mindset.

Redford's resistance to 'conscience" actions on the part of provincial employees....in other words she would force doctors to perform abortions, something done no where else in Canada.

Redford's love of the Human Rights Kangaroo Courts, against Smith promise to abolish them.

Just off the top of my head......

Ya think people should be driving after drinking booze? A lot of the ones I see can't drive when they are sober. Why exacerbate the problem? Booze is an ingredient in traffic fatalities daily across Canada.
 

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Ya think people should be driving after drinking booze? A lot of the ones I see can't drive when they are sober. Why exacerbate the problem? Booze is an ingredient in traffic fatalities daily across Canada.

Absolutely!

And my limit is two drinks or two beer......unless I am out for several hours, in which I will raise it to three .I have NEVER driven with a BAC of .08.

With my weight, two drinks (in an hour) puts me at about .05 BAC.........three would put me on the threshold of .08.

Now, I do not believe two drinks impairs me to any significant point, more than say, minor fatigue, a dose of cough medicine, or even a really good song on the radio....:)

Oh, I have never been in an accident where anyone was even slightly harmed, (KNOCK ON WOOD!!!!) and haven't been in a scratch and dent accident since 1998........despite years of driving 50,000 plus K per year.

There is no such thing as perfect........we can't be perfectly safe. Legislation that tries to eliminate all risk is simply ridiculous.
 

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Now, I do not believe two drinks impairs me to any significant point, more than say, minor fatigue, a dose of cough medicine, or even a really good song on the radio....:)
All will get you a 24hr roadside suspension just as easily as two drinks.
 

JLM

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Absolutely!

And my limit is two drinks or two beer......unless I am out for several hours, in which I will raise it to three .I have NEVER driven with a BAC of .08.

With my weight, two drinks (in an hour) puts me at about .05 BAC.........three would put me on the threshold of .08.

You're extrapolating how you handle it to what the laws should be for 35 million people! One size doesn't fit all.
 

Liberalman

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Once again you're wrong. A poll taken last night after the debate showed the Wild Rose as taking the debate. As soon as the Liberal leader said "we aren't Arkansas", I stopped listening to the idiot, plus he's a one trick pony.

Do you thinks he was referring to rednecks?
 

Bar Sinister

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For starters, the .05% alcohol level limit for driving. Absolutely ludicrous, and perhaps unconstitutional. Clearly shows her mindset.

I guess you must have missed the link I posted showing that the .08 limit used in Canada and the USA is among the highest in the world. I'll post it again for your inspection. Blood alcohol content - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You might note that most nations accept .05% and lower as legally impaired. You might also note that the acceptable level for new drivers in Canada is zero. Unconstitutional? Driving is a privilege, not a human right.