Ontario’s Job Training Shuts Out Half Of Unemployed
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You go where the work is,we lost all our sawmills and other industry here in the Crowsnest pass a long time ago.I guess our council thinks tourist dollars will keep everyone in the green.I have been working away from home since 1982,you get used to it.
Because you can't afford to move elsewhere? Did you know by the way that some people still don't know how to use a computer to look for work or might not even have email or know how to use it? So they would not even know how to look for work online. Some training could be useful there, don't you think?
But you were able to find the work too. If someone could get the training needed for those kinds of jobs, then they most certainly could work from home. I would say though that once offered a job in the private sector, it ought to be obligatory to accept it as long as the employer provides transportation if the job is out of town.
And some just wont work,I have a gal living in my house rent free,all she has to do is look after the place and yard when im working and maybe pay the odd bill,well she just got fired from her last job and was sitting here on my couch playing facebook games all day and mooching off me.I wont get her a job back in the arctic where she was a cook because she burnt all those bridges a long time ago.So I ripped her a new one the other day about at least trying to find a job,so she gets mad and posts on her facebook status that she is going to volunteer at the food bank to show whe isnt just sitting on her ass,I posted below it to walk a couple blocks farther to Tim Hortons and volunteer there,at least she will get paid.I think shes moving her **** out right now. Some people need a push and like addictions,some have to hit rock bottom before they actually get up and do something.
Pride goeth before the fall
Pride goeth before the fall
Ooops. Gave you a reddie and meant to give a greenie. It'll sure be nice when Andem finishes with this transition of servers.
I guess Petros has never been in a position of not being able to move and out of work at the same time.
I've never been in that position eitherluckily, but it doesn't take much imagination to figure out the kind of catch-22 that could be.
Some people do need a push. Some are just not aware of the options available to people who can't find a job, can't move, aren't trained for a job, etc. Some places just don't have jobs available.
We have one friend here who we and others give odd jobs to and he's a damned good welder. He can't move because his wife is diagnosed with a mental disorder, is a hermit, won't even cook a meal for herself, won't pay her bills, can't move because the doc says it would send her further off the deep end. He's basically a babysitter relegated to doing odd jobs. Let him and his wife starve? Not me.
We have another friend who is in a wheelchair. There was a gov't grant affair where the gov't would pay 85% of his wage if he got a job for the first 6 months, and then the ratio went down to 30% gradually after so many months on the job. Well, 3 times in a row he got jobs but as soon as the wage subsidy ran out, so did all 3 jobs. He said fack it, went on welfare for a while, got some books on copyediting to train himself, and now he does independent copyediting when he can find work for doing that online. BTW, he can't move either because of obligations he has.
Condemning someone is just stupid until you are aware of their situation.
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Re: Education is the other BIG lie
Yep, formal education doesn't always mean a hell of a lot- helps you to pass tests written on paper, but the not so much for the big test........................life! :lol::lol:
Yep, formal education doesn't always mean a hell of a lot- helps you to pass tests written on paper, but the not so much for the big test........................life! :lol::lol:
Then tell them their EI or welfare cheques are in the region where the work is and they have to pick it up in person and their charter rights will be protected.
So do they walk, run, or hitch-hike? And do they eat pine needles along the way?
If you're going to do that, then at least pay their moving expenses and ensure they have the qualificaitons necessary for the local jobs.
There, you just got another greenie to offset the ignoramus who gave you a red notch! :lol:
Yep, if a guy wants a job bad enough he'll equip himself with a sign saying "available for work", and carry a few garbage bags and pick up garbage and bottles along a busy thoroughfare and I'd bet within a month he'd have a job.(But a lot of them don't want a job THAT bad) :lol:
A one way bus ticket for the whole family with on the job training two months in a motel paid by the government until they save up to get a better home that they can afford because they are working.
With guaranteed employment? OK, now you're talking (depending on details of course).
I doubt he'd get a job. People would look down on him for being a bum even if he isn't.
Like here? There are jobs, but it's even tougher to find a place to stay that you can afford than it is to find a job.
One reason you might not want to force a person to move until an employer has already guaranteed to pay for initial moving and settling costs.
I'm not against forcing a person to move if an employer makes such a guarantee. Also, we might want to consider certain unique circumstances such as dependents with special medical or mental circumstances where moving might not be advisable.
However, I can see forcing people into an option of work or training, and if work is not available in the private sector, then in the peace corps. Not a high-paying job, but it would be productive work.
It's tough to find a place to stay but it's not impossible to find it and at first it might be more than you want to pay but then again it will get a home base to do a proper seach for one that is within ones budget.
But you want to be sure of that. You don't want to force a person from one city to a job in another city only for him to have to sleep outside and eventually quit his job cause he can't even shower and then end up on the street. You want to be sure it is possible to make the transition and not just assume. That's why I'm condition such a forced move on a guarantee from an employer to ensure a smooth transition, perhaps with the government agreeing to pay for the training needed as an incentive for the employer.
Then you'd better hope one of those people see him.