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earth_as_one

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.... So who do we believe?

Tenet or Fischer?

I can see why in hindsight, both would lie through their eye teeth.

Which is why Blix and UNMOVIC was a more reliable source of information.

SECURITY COUNCIL 7 MARCH 2003
Oral introduction of the 12th quarterly report of UNMOVIC
Executive Chairman Dr. Hans Blix

...Mr. President,
Let me conclude by telling you that UNMOVIC is currently drafting the work programme, which resolution 1284 (1999) requires us to submit this month. It will obviously contain our proposed list of key remaining disarmament tasks; it will describe the reinforced system of ongoing monitoring and verification that the Council has asked us to implement; it will also describe the various subsystems which constitute the programme, e.g. for aerial surveillance, for information from governments and suppliers, for sampling, for the checking of road traffic, etc.

How much time would it take to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks? While cooperation can and is to be immediate, disarmament and at any rate the verification of it cannot be instant. Even with a proactive Iraqi attitude, induced by continued outside pressure, it would still take some time to verify sites and items, analyse documents, interview relevant persons, and draw conclusions. It would not take years, nor weeks, but months. Neither governments nor inspectors would want disarmament inspection to go on forever. However, it must be remembered that in accordance with the governing resolutions, a sustained inspection and monitoring system is to remain in place after verified disarmament to give confidence and to strike an alarm, if signs were seen of the revival of any proscribed weapons programmes.
Security Council 7 March 2003

The Iraq government's 2002 declaration to the UNSC was truthful, complete and accurate.

Hans Blix was getting close to the truth.

The evidence proves Iraqi dissidents, the US and Israel governments were all lying. Many people in the CIA were giving accurate information, but that intel was selectively ignored because it didn't support Cheney's case for starting an unprovoked war with Iraq..

Now the same sources are lying again, this time about Iran's nuclear weapon program.
 

CDNBear

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I made stuff up?
Yes, post 151 and 153, on this page, just for starters. I point it out in the ensuing replies.

Which is why Blix and UNMOVIC was a more reliable source of information.
You have faith in the UN, although I can appreciate that, I don't.

You and I have been down this road. There is evidence both for and against UN competency. I gave up trying to vet each of their actions, based solely on its own merits long ago.

I wish I had you faith in them. I wish they actually were capable of making a greater difference in world affairs.

Now the same sources are lying again, this time about Iran's nuclear weapon program.
Of that I have no doubt. But sometimes there is fire where there is smoke.

Was Henning lieing too?
I have no idea. Why don't you tell me all about it, while you lead the conversation, to another dead end.
 

CDNBear

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They are all lieing and you are right?
I don't know who they are. But yes, I am right, Germany supplied the US with intel, that was ultimately found to be false.

Those were statements or questions?
Statements disguised as questions.

Why else would they contain fabrications, and premises that I have not mentioned or alluded to?
 

CDNBear

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Disguised?
Yes. I have no idea why you seem to find all this complicated, you do it all the time.

That's ****ing hilarious.
That's why I keep conversing with you. I find you hilarious.

Not your words?
Yep, my words. But your statements disguised as a questions, made up the premise that my comment was directed at anything or anyone other than the anti American members here. Which is pretty clear to anyone not prone to driving conversation head long into dead ends, like yourself.

Hmmm, I'll take that as a yes then.

I never said they weren't. I just pointed out that they were using evidence, from a reliable ally.

I know that doesn't bode well with the anti American crowd.

Enjoy Church bud.
 
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petros

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Ohhhhh it's the inhouse Anti-Americans that put the "he might be a liar" statement in the German Bundesnachrichtendienst's mouths?
 

CDNBear

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Ohhhhh it's the inhouse Anti-Americans that put the "he might be a liar" statement in the German Bundesnachrichtendienst's mouths?
There you go, making stuff up again.

It's either that or you really do have serious cognitive skill issues.

Which is it bud?
 

CDNBear

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Yup and the CIA/DIA and BND angencies as a whole.
Well than, you'll have to provide a specific context as to what you are asking about.

Specific questions, would be much better. The big big vague one you ask, has no simple single answer.