Canada's foreign debt increases by $35 B in one quarter

petros

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You don't remember the mass shut downs back then do you? It sure as **** wasn't the resource industry that forced doors closed.
 

Tonington

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Is a guy who works in ag or construction supply excluded when they hit seasonal lay offs too or just directly in ag and consumer retail?

Read the documentation of seasonal adjustments at the link I provided. It's funny how you will refuse to give anyone links for your claims, but when you're given one you won't even look for yourself before the questions start rolling out...
 

Tonington

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Wouldn't it be easier if you just said "I don't know"?

Considering you didn't even know that the employment data was seasonally adjusted, I would take anything you say about employment numbers with a large slab of salt. You can read for yourself and maybe quote the passage if you find what you're looking for.

Or you can spin your wheels in the mud. I anticipate a barrage of useless questions.
 

Tonington

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You can't find anything? I thought so because there is jack **** in you LFS link.

See, that's your problem. If the answer you're looking for isn't immediately available, you throw a hissy fit tantrum and start in with the expletives.

Go to the LFS link, scroll to the bottom of the page. Click on the hyperlink to Seasonal Adjustment and Trend-cycle Estimation, read it. If you want more nuts and bolts, then try a search with Google or any other search engine you prefer for the references which aren't hyperlinked to, such as this one:
http://www.census.gov/ts/papers/ShiskinYoungMusgrave1967.pdf

Read...learn something instead of offering lame objections that have either already been dealt with, or are simply irrelevant.

Seasonal adjustments are captured and made. Your objections are spurious.
 

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You can't find anything? I thought so because there is jack **** in you LFS link.


 

Tonington

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Can you link to something that isn't 45 years old?

:roll:

Of course I can, but that's the basis, and if you read the material you'd see that there have been many additions to the methodology as new techniques have been developed. Jesus, you are impossibly stubborn.

At least I can read and know how to find information...
 

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petros

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How accurate are the LFS studies? What is the plus/minus? Do these studies rely on the honesty of the people interviewed?
 

Tonington

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How accurate are the LFS studies?

Far more accurate than the unadjusted numbers plus your complaints. You'd have to actually know what the real quantity is to assess the accuracy. Do you know what the real quantity is? I don't.
 

petros

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Data presentation and data access

  • Month-to-month (or quarter-to-quarter) growth rates and changes should be computed on seasonally adjusted data and should be used with caution if the time series has high volatility. Year on year same-month comparisons should be computed on calendar adjusted data, or, in absence of calendar effects, on raw data.
  • Users should be given access to the full historical raw series, the seasonally adjusted and, upon request, to the seasonal adjustment options.