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[darkbeaver]

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This is how the weather operates. There's really no such thing as normal climate

 

[L Gilbert]

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There may not be a "normal" climate, but there are climates that are normal under certain conditions. That means there are normal climateS.

 

[Tonington]

This is how the weather operates.

Space weather...and if you saw a lightning bolt, and said this is how our weather operates...you'd be wrong. It's not how, it's what can happen...

There's really no such thing as normal climate

Sure there is. There's normal variability (the weather), and then there's abnormal. When the climate changes it means you're getting more abnormal weather...this is not rocket science.

 

[darkbeaver]

Space weather...and if you saw a lightning bolt, and said this is how our weather operates...you'd be wrong. It's not how, it's what can happen...

Sure there is. There's normal variability (the weather), and then there's abnormal. When the climate changes it means you're getting more abnormal weather...this is not rocket science.

We've been in this debate for some time now. It is plainly obvious that you are tired and worn beyond reason. You do not have to go down with the ship. Charge separation rules all. Electrical variability provides for evolution of matter and organics, don't be silly there is no normal.

Earths wind comes from solar wind, directly, notice the complete absence of hot air between the earth and the source of the wind.

 

[L Gilbert]

We've been in this debate for some time now. It is plainly obvious that you are tired and worn beyond reason. You do not have to go down with the ship. Charge separation rules all. Electrical variability provides for evolution of matter and organics, don't be silly there is no normal.

Bullshyte. Everytime you come up with one of these goofy "electric universe" hypotheses, Tonnington, I, or someone else manages to find the holes in it, yet you continue to spew your nonsense.

Earths wind comes from solar wind, directly, notice the complete absence of hot air between the earth and the source of the wind.

Bullshyte. Our winds come from activity between warm air and cold air.

 

[mentalfloss]

We have debated this already Tonnington.

It is clear that you lack reason.

You must cease and desist now.

bleep bloop orp orp tick

 

[petros]

Our winds come from activity between warm air and cold air.

Displacement? Nahhhhhh! Displacement has NOTHING to do with weather

 

[Tonington]

Earths wind comes from solar wind, directly, notice the complete absence of hot air between the earth and the source of the wind.

So then all currents of air should be moving in the same direction? Indeed there should be only one current. There should be no such thing as Hadley Cells, no such thing as trade winds, no such thing as 'The Doldrums'.

You peddle such flavourful nonsense. The solar wind is charged particles, which interact with out magnetic field. Compare the moon with no magnetosphere, to Earth, and then see what conclusions you can manage to mangle out of reality.

 

[petros]

So then all currents of air should be moving in the same direction? Indeed there should be only one current. There should be no such thing as Hadley Cells, no such thing as trade winds, no such thing as 'The Doldrums'.

You peddle such flavourful nonsense. The solar wind is charged particles, which interact with out magnetic field. Compare the moon with no magnetosphere, to Earth, and then see what conclusions you can manage to mangle out of reality.

What happens to charged particles inside our magnetosphere?

 

[Tonington]

What happens to charged particles inside our magnetosphere?

Sometimes it heats the upper atmosphere and some of our atmosphere vents to space, other times the particles are trapped in the Van Allen belt. Some cosmic rays hit the surface, some hit particles in our atmosphere...

Our wind is not the same as the solar wind, and the solar wind is certainly not the foundation of our atmospheric circulation. There are far more important relationships, such as the rotation of our planet and the temperature gradient from the tropics to the poles.

 

[petros]

Our wind contains oodles of charged particles which are indeed influenced by the magnetosphere and aren't from space.

Can these influence weather?

 

[Tonington]

Our wind contains oodles of charged particles which are indeed influenced by the magnetosphere and aren't from space.

Just because the wind contains charged particles, does not mean the wind is being forced by those charged particles...

Can these influence weather?

There are far more important relationships...that's me repeating myself. I never said there is no influence, I'm simply disagreeing with the dim rodent's assertion relating the solar wind principally to our atmospheric circulations.

 

[petros]

To a human there are no more important topics than what takes place within our magnetosphere.

 

[Tonington]

To a human there are no more important topics than what takes place within our magnetosphere.

I'd say without a sun, the magnetosphere is a superfluous bit of physics for life on this planet.

 

[petros]

Your right, without a sun we'd have really ****ty weather but without a magnetosphere we'd have no weather at all.

 

[Tonington]

Your right, without a sun we'd have really ****ty weather

Without a sun, there is no we...

 

[petros]

There are arsenic eating microbes that have never seen the sun that would beg to differ.

 

[L Gilbert]

There are arsenic eating microbes that have never seen the sun that would beg to differ.

Can they handle being frozen at close to -270 Celsius?

 

[Tonington]

There are arsenic eating microbes that have never seen the sun that would beg to differ.

Where? Is it on planet without a star? Or are you referring to the by now discredited NASA research about arsenic incorporation into the DNA of microbes?

 

[darkbeaver]

Bullshyte. Everytime you come up with one of these goofy "electric universe" hypotheses, Tonnington, I, or someone else manages to find the holes in it, yet you continue to spew your nonsense.

Bullshyte. Our winds come from activity between warm air and cold air.

You have me confused with James Maxwell. The holes I wish you would find are in your logic.