1 would be insulted - Best look at the reality of the point made before you come up with such a BS reply.
Northwestern Ontario First Nation needs 300 homes
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1 would be insulted - Best look at the reality of the point made before you come up with such a BS reply.
Racist or not, you are ignorant of the realities being faced. The Indian Act makes people living on reserve wards of the state. Things are changing but not fast enough. Watch 8th Fire on CBC and educate yourself to the realities of reserves and the challenges facing aboriginal people. You and the Dump are looking at the issue from a complete lack of understanding of the realities, just from your own perspectives.
I too believe we should all work for what we acquire. I also believe we the nation set forth
the mess we are blessed with today. We as a nation put these people on reserves largely
because we took their space and made it ours. There are any number of abuses some
going back about a hundred years or less in some cases. In BC there is the cut off land
issue that comes up from time to time.. Its where the natives had the granted but the
white folks wanted it so they moved the natives off, just around the turn of the last century.
There are other issues too, like the Penticton situation at the airport. Around the time of
WWII the government took native land for the present day airport. They stated at the time
if they were to give up their claim to the airport the land would be returned to the natives.
When the government decided to relinquish the land they wanted to give it to the city of
Penticton. I have never heard an update, whether the natives got it back, or the government
still administers it or the city of Penticton ended up with it.
The point I am making is we set in place the present system designed to keep the natives
from reaching their full potential and its working. It no longer suites our goals so we want to
abandoned our responsibility, for the actions of our country. Oh I know the present people
never made any such deal but that is not the point as our leaders in Ottawa made the deal
and the crown made the deal. You know, in perpetuity, as long as the sky is blue and the
grass is green etc.
I as a farmer never consented to a number of trade deals that were made by my country but
I have to live by them don't I? In the case of the Natives the deals made were not made in
good faith many times they were made so business could own the mineral rights etc. Too
bad some of the best stuff ended up under worthless ground. What is that saying Oh what
a tangled Web we weave when we practice to deceive. It backfired now we get to pay
the mess we are blessed with today. We as a nation put these people on reserves largely
because we took their space and made it ours. There are any number of abuses some
going back about a hundred years or less in some cases. In BC there is the cut off land
issue that comes up from time to time.. Its where the natives had the granted but the
white folks wanted it so they moved the natives off, just around the turn of the last century.
There are other issues too, like the Penticton situation at the airport. Around the time of
WWII the government took native land for the present day airport. They stated at the time
if they were to give up their claim to the airport the land would be returned to the natives.
When the government decided to relinquish the land they wanted to give it to the city of
Penticton. I have never heard an update, whether the natives got it back, or the government
still administers it or the city of Penticton ended up with it.
The point I am making is we set in place the present system designed to keep the natives
from reaching their full potential and its working. It no longer suites our goals so we want to
abandoned our responsibility, for the actions of our country. Oh I know the present people
never made any such deal but that is not the point as our leaders in Ottawa made the deal
and the crown made the deal. You know, in perpetuity, as long as the sky is blue and the
grass is green etc.
I as a farmer never consented to a number of trade deals that were made by my country but
I have to live by them don't I? In the case of the Natives the deals made were not made in
good faith many times they were made so business could own the mineral rights etc. Too
bad some of the best stuff ended up under worthless ground. What is that saying Oh what
a tangled Web we weave when we practice to deceive. It backfired now we get to pay
Yes. When Iraqis and Afghans immigrate here should become Canadians and shed their old culture. They come to Canada to become Canadian, why else would they come here? It doesn't happen overnight, it takes time, but it has to happen. Because we are taking so many immigrants into the country, 250,000 per year for over 20 years, we are getting the Toronto 18, honour killings, gender imbalances in urban areas due to aborting girl fetuses, and expanding ethnic enclaves that can resist assimilation. Size matters.
What the country of Iraq and Afghanistan wishes to do, I don't care that much as long as they don't put me or Canadians in danger. They are far away.
The reality is that he is doing quite well and his heritage has neither hindered him nor helped him. He wouldn't need or want your sympathy.
Shed their culture - Could you expand on that - Make it easy for you - Iraqi or Afghani - Muslim - 2 children - pre school.
What portions of their culture should be disposed of.
Make it in point form, you know, 1, then number 2, then number 3. try to keep them short but descriptive.
No. Did I say that you did?
True, and that, apparently, means they are unable to perform the most basic maintenance or upkeep on a house. I'm not sure how that works, but apparently being a ward of the state means you can kick holes in your walls, and destroy your house, and then whine because your house is a piece of ****t.
I would be interested to know how some natives are, apparently, able to understand the concept of maintenance, while others cannot grasp it.
Do you have any (non racist) insight into how that works? Is it genetic?
Where was I sympathetic. Get your replies correct. Reading into what I state clearly leaves you open for errors.
Its 300 homes, not 200, the cost is $75 million, not $50 million. My mistake. Hey, it's only money.
May not be genetic, but maybe hereditary. After a hundred years of residential schools and many generations of people who have had no family life, no emotional nurturing, no life skills taught, you end up with generations of alcoholics who are incapable of even hugging or nurturing their own children. Not only were the rsidential school victims abuse, physically, emotionally and sexually, they witnessed many of their friends die and be buried in unmarked graves in the dark of night. If you have not experienced such emotional trauma, how do you expect to understand the realities of being aboriginals living on reserves?
It has been less that 25years since the last of those schools shut down. It will take a while before they work through the disabling trauma of it and heal those wounds. Some have managed to get on with their lives and some have not. But stereotyping the people because of a few hyped up incidences is not going to help the process.
I admittedly don't know or associate with any that live on welfare and band checks on the reserve. Those I do know well have all broken free of the shackles of such a lifestyle through hard work and determination. They own their own homes and pay a mortgage and work decent jobs and pay taxes. They absolutely hate the stigma attached to them because of their heritage and quite a few have torn up their status cards. The main point being they chose to be productive citizens of Canada and worked for what they wanted instead of letting someone keep them down.
Not a good answer. Problems understanding what the chances are for First Nations people in Canada.
So it's the residential schools at fault again, is it?
Oh, my father yelled at me when I was a kid, can I get the government to pay for my car maintenance? Where do I apply for pathetic victim coverage?
Think of a father who beats his children. Look at the generational effects. Your reply was somewhat glib. Not your usual style.
I hear a lot of people say (about aboriginal people), "get over it" with regards to the residential schools. I wonder how many of those would have the balls to walk up to a Jew and say the same thing about the holocaust.
Hmmm, let's think about that for a minute. With free healthcare, including dental, free university education and the a ability to file and win a lawsuit because a white guy was a better candidate for the job I think they got a real good chance to succeed if they want to. Problem is a lot are happy to do nothing except sign government checks. Of course that pertains to a lot of people from every ethnicity.
You never fail to meet the lowest expectations of the basic qualities of good character and humanity.
Awww, I'm touched by your emotional outburst.
Remember the saying "god helps those that help themselves"? Well I'm like god, if someone is trying to better themselves I will help in any way I can. All others are on their own.