Maryland Abortion Doctors Charged With Murder

bluebyrd35

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Did you keep it in the freezer? What does God have to do with killing your own offspring?


You know it might be wise to learn about terms. Spontaneous means just that. Not induced, not intended. unless one believes in a biblical god, as you seem to. In that case, caused by god.!! I now declare your god a murderer.

I understand only the christian god was entitled to judge.....so in judging me, are you not declaring yourself as god?? In that case I accuse you as the murderer of my second child!! See how stupid belief can be??

In any case, the tissue was scooped out of the toilet and delivered to my doctor,who confired the obvious.
 

bluebyrd35

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And then you put in the freezer?

If there is an all encompassing spirit out there, anywhere, you are doomed LOL. Murderer!! Criss, why would anyone save a decaying bit of tissue in a freezer?? Is that what you would do if you were female?? Talk about womb envy. Get used to the idea,, you cannot bear a child. Just because you never can, doesn't mean to say all those who can, wish to!! Suck it up!!
 

gerryh

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Twin Herefords (possibly Charolais) from what I've gathered.


Thing is...she mentioned a single before the miscarriage..... and in the last message, she mentions "A" child and grandchildren. I'm counting 3 live births, but she references just 1 in the end..... getting tripped up on her own lies?
 

talloola

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I doubt many women that experience miscarriage refer to it as an abortion. I think there's quite a difference.

a spontaneious abortion is a miscarriage.
up until the 20th week of a pregnancy, the loss of the embryo is called a 'spontaneious
abortion'.
no connection to a planned abortion.
 

mentalfloss

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It's clear that the resolution to this problem will be to cut off abortion to 21 weeks. This should appease both the pro choice and the crazy people.
 

Ariadne

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It's clear that the resolution to this problem will be to cut off abortion to 21 weeks. This should appease both the pro choice and the crazy people.

That would certainly give pregnant women ample time to make up their minds about whether a baby suited their lifestyle. That should be figured out by 8 weeks (for medical procedure options) ... and the fact that 2 months is plenty of time to for a mother to figure out if a baby is the right decision. Give another 4 weeks for wishy washiness in the relationship and confusion about how to proceed. Cut that off at 12 weeks; 3 months max for women to decide if a baby suits their lifestyle. Older women may want to complete routine congenital abnormality tests. Amniocentesis, from what I remember, can be done at about 14 weeks and the results take 3 weeks. That makes 17 weeks. Women should be given an extra week after learning the test results to make up their minds. In fact, also give them 4 weeks to make up their minds. That makes 21 weeks. That seems like the perfect gestation age to accommodate everyone, as life is viable after 23 weeks with a little extra medical attention.

12 weeks seems a little on the generous side for women that are making the decision based on convenience. I would rather see that reduced to 6 weeks ... as medical technologies have improved to allow for confirmation of conception within days and safe, simple abortions are an option in early term pregnancy. That still gives women 5 and a half weeks to decide whether a pregnancy works with their lifestyle. There are simple and complex abortion methods. The simple should be used as often as possible. The complex requires something like a D&C to scrape out the placenta.

Anyway, the dividing line in terms of at what number of weeks gestation medical professionals can keep a fetus alive is, at this time, about 22-24 weeks, so that should probably be the cutoff for sucking or vacuuming the baby out prematurely and tossing it in a freezer.
 

mentalfloss

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Anyway, the dividing line in terms of at what number of weeks gestation medical professionals can keep a fetus alive is, at this time, about 22-24 weeks, so that should probably be the cutoff for sucking or vacuuming the baby out prematurely and tossing it in a freezer.

Or a microwave, but yes.. agreed.
 

bluebyrd35

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I doubt many women that experience miscarriage refer to it as an abortion. I think there's quite a difference.

Ah but that is the medical term and I am a medical secretary. Miscarriage is not as explicit in the description of what actually happens. It sounds better to those who need a bit of comfort .

Look at it like telling a patient, they have a cut that needs a few stitches, rather than "There is a 20 cm laceration that needs repair". That repair may need subcutaneous sutures as well as cutaneous ones.

Where the waters get murky is Human Rights and the Rights of the Person.

Charter Rights apply to the Person but not the human.

The definition of human needs to be squared up.

It's undeniable that we are humans from conception but legally as Persons that doesn't come until post birth.

Really?? What evidence can YOU produce that a piece of tissue is either a person or human, over that of scientists who spend their life working on the problem. Other than religious prejudice, what can you possibly contribute to such a question.?

We are homosapiens who are adept (some at least) in using communication systems. This does not make all of us, apparently, adept at understanding what they spout. Our species like all earthly ones has it's origjns in the long ago past, (which by the way is quite well documented). Research it for yourself. Like it or not we are an animal species. We call ourselves human but it does not change the fact we are animals of a specific species.

Because we developed into what WE think of as unique among earthly species, there is very little that separates us from the others. What makes us unique ls curiosity and the desire to influence our environment. Our desire to manipulate phenomena,which led to advanced tool and science systems. None of which , changes what we are and what we originated from. Imagine strong emphasis on manipulate!! That manipulation is employed by members of our own species against other of the same species!!

There are other species that are also curious, but will we ever know how much we have smothered or curtailed their evolution will we?? Our species has overrun the planet and has destroyed uncountable species. Now people like you want to finish the job by declaring us more worthy than the survival of our planet!! Small mindedness really distresses the hell out of me.
 
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