Baird Lambasts Proponents of Palestinian UN Bid
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So back on topic. Canada`s stand on a 2 state negotiation - with the quartet as they will pay all the bills. Yes include Canada and others not in the illustrious group as we pay for Israelis removed from settlements, Palestinians need work -
Then we have the kicker - Oil & Gas of Israel é Lebanon Cypress with the Turks sticking their nose in on the Turkish side, the Russian on the Greek Cypriots side.
Good time for them all to sit down and get fukn drunk I say, real fukn drunk.
Both Israel and Palestine will come out ahead if they settle this properly without being forced to appease the rest of the world.
And that means a smooth border - Not the hiving off of villages etc. The we have that poison boil - Gaza. What happens there.
Will the PLO go in or will we have 2 Palestinian States. My opinion, give Gaza to Egypt - 2 billion smackers and here ya go.
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The theorcratic ideals of both Israel and Palestine need to go out the window before anything else can or will happen.
I agree. Both side have a highly educated population - Peace and trade and then do what they did in S Africa - Commission where people can admit to, apologize for, state their feelings of anger, hope and so on. A dialogue starts there as well.
They can both make a fortune piping, refining and shipping Northern Iraq oil to Europe as well as feeding Europe it's veggies.
Equating the fact that if the UN and the West were to turn their backs on Israel history would repeat itself. They would be slaughtered by the surrounding Countries without the support of the west.
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Without support from the West, absolutely they would. The only Country to attempt peace and trade with Israel was Egypt and look where that is going. It is about time someone called out the UN.
Baird did a fine job of telling it like it is.
Who and how without being hit extremely hard? Israel is armed to the teeth. With their 300+ nukes they can level everyone within 1500km without the west even having to get out of bed.
Pakistan has Nukes and so does India, Iran probably does and if not yet likely soon. First strike nuclear weapons aren't even an option. Looks cool in a Tom Clancy novel, but it is highly unlikely. The West commitment to Israel is essential to its survival in an extremely hostile region. Kudo's to John Baird and the Prime Minister for galvanizing their support.
India dooesn't like Israel? Pakistan's nukes are secured by US. Pakistan has secured its nuclear weapons: Obama
Way to prove Colpy right guys...
Has Colpy been right again? It wasn't his turn....:roll:
Yep, the double standards of the UN.
Unless someone like yourself comes along, that can't discuss the message on its merits, wishes to play the "Quick! Look over there >>>>" game.
Which is really moot anyways, considering your basing your whole premise on one military commander and rag tag band of Islamic fundamentalists fighters, 500/600 strong, that aligned itself with the NTC who are in charge, not fundamentalist and of course reigned in the paramilitary Islamic units.
But hey, since you can't actually discuss Baird's speech on its merits alone, keep running with that erroneous thought. It's fun to watch you dance.
Dude he didn't even make the comparison MF said in the post you quote.
Feel free to continue proving him right.
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UN begins talks on Palestine bid
The Palestinian bid at the Security Council faces an uphill struggle however and diplomats held out little hope that Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas or Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would allow talks any time soon.
Abbas made his application for Palestinian membership to UN leader Ban Ki-moon on Friday and it was sent straight away to the Security Council, which must approve any addition to the 193 members.
The United States has vowed to veto any resolution in favour of the Palestinians, but a technical committee will examine the application putting back any vote for several weeks.
The United States and Israel, which have insisted that only direct negotiations can produce an accord, are lobbying furiously for the council members to oppose or abstain in the resolution.
Despite the US opposition, Mansour called on the Security Council to "synchronise itself with history" and approve Palestinian membership.
Nine of the 15 council members already recognise the Palestinian state, but diplomats say the Palestinians will struggle to get nine votes.
Abbas, riding a wave of popular support in the occupied territories, says he is ready for talks but first there must be a "complete halt" to Israeli settlement building in the occupied territories.
Israel's Netanyahu has said he wants talks without conditions and is refusing to halt the new settlements.
UN begins talks on Palestine bid | The Australian
The Palestinian bid at the Security Council faces an uphill struggle however and diplomats held out little hope that Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas or Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu would allow talks any time soon.
Abbas made his application for Palestinian membership to UN leader Ban Ki-moon on Friday and it was sent straight away to the Security Council, which must approve any addition to the 193 members.
The United States has vowed to veto any resolution in favour of the Palestinians, but a technical committee will examine the application putting back any vote for several weeks.
The United States and Israel, which have insisted that only direct negotiations can produce an accord, are lobbying furiously for the council members to oppose or abstain in the resolution.
Despite the US opposition, Mansour called on the Security Council to "synchronise itself with history" and approve Palestinian membership.
Nine of the 15 council members already recognise the Palestinian state, but diplomats say the Palestinians will struggle to get nine votes.
Abbas, riding a wave of popular support in the occupied territories, says he is ready for talks but first there must be a "complete halt" to Israeli settlement building in the occupied territories.
Israel's Netanyahu has said he wants talks without conditions and is refusing to halt the new settlements.
UN begins talks on Palestine bid | The Australian
You missed my point altogether if you are going zero in on India. My point was that Israel is not the only power in the region with Nukes, therefore that option is not even on the table.
Not quite sure I get what you're driving at Bear.
[Sips first coffee]
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