The media’s love affair with a disastrous president

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But they got it out the door. Obamacare too.

So they tried to raise taxes? The fillibuster is a Senate thing only.

Wasn't the tax thing a big issue right around his mid-term? I'm pretty sure he wanted to raise taxes for higher income families and the Republicans were able to strike it down after the mid-term.
 

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Wasn't the tax thing a big issue right around his mid-term? I'm pretty sure he wanted to raise taxes for higher income families and the Republicans were able to strike it down after the mid-term.

After the mid-term he couldn't do anything without GOP approval. By then it was too late after the Democrats took a beating at the voting booth. Prior to the November 2010 Elections the Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress and the Whitehouse.

I do not think the Senate Republicans could fillibuster until Scott Brown got elected in the Massachusetts Special Election (Jan 2010) after Ted Kennedy died. I could be wrong.

So why didn't they raise taxes for the wealthy when they could? If they got Obamacare and "Don't as Don't Tell" through certainly they could have got a tax hike in.

Follow up... Had Scott Brown LOST the Special Election the Democrats would have had the Super Majority in the Senate rendering it
"Fillibuster Proof". So while Ted Kennedy was alive the Senate could not Fillibuster, and when Ted Kennedy died a Democrat was appointed by the Massachusetts Governor to fill his seat temporarily.

In other words, the Democrats held all the marbles. They could have raised taxes if they wanted.
 

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So why didn't they raise taxes for the wealthy when they could? If they got Obamacare and "Don't as Don't Tell" through certainly they could have got a tax hike in.

Well you know Americans and "raising taxes". It's only up until now that I've heard the U.S. actually considering such a preposterous idea. It could be that Obamers didn't want go deeper into the pit after the midterm.
 

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Well you know Americans and "raising taxes". It's only up until now that I've heard the U.S. actually considering such a preposterous idea. It could be that Obamers didn't want go deeper into the pit after the midterm.

I wouldn't know. I'm from Massachusetts and the Democrats raise taxes whenever they darn well please and do so often. The Republicans are practically non-existent in the state and can offer only token resistance. The true power of State Government in this state is not the Governor, it is the Speaker of the House as it is practically SOLID Democrat.

And our last three Massachusetts Speakers of the House are convicted felons.

And after the Mid-Terms... the Democrat free reign was over anyways.
 

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I trust Rex Murphy's opinion on politics as much as I trust his opinion on climate change.

People who still believe Obama gets eternal love have not been checking the polls lately.

AN YOU CAN TAKE THAT ONE TA THA BANK!

EXCELLENT, considering Rex is correct on both counts.

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The media in the US thrives on controversy. I'll bet any random gun shots reported in the vicinity will bring a horde of media folks.
 

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Blame Bush!

You can blame Bush all you want.

Where in my post do you two geniuses see me blaming Bush for Obama's failings? Had either of you two bothered to actually read my post you would have seen that I clearly blamed Obama's timidity for his failings.

Read it again.

Bush was criticized from the outset.

Please cite examples.

he had both Houses and wasn't able to do as much as he needed

And as I clearly pointed out this is because he is too timid to force the issue unlike Bush.
 

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Where in my post do you two geniuses see me blaming Bush for Obama's failings? Had either of you two bothered to actually read my post you would have seen that I clearly blamed Obama's timidity for his failings.

Read it again.



Please cite examples.



And as I clearly pointed out this is because he is too timid to force the issue unlike Bush.

You know Gopher life would be much simpler if you would learn to multi quote with names.

Quote: Originally Posted by gopher <--see how easy that is?
 

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news media love affair with Obama?

NY Post:




the ''liberal'' LA Times:





Want more proof of media attacks on Obama?

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Well Soldier, it would be a lot easier if you would just read my initial post.

Now, I will ask again: where in my post did you see me blame Bush for Obama's failings????
 

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that still does not answer my question: where did you see me blame Bush for Obama's failings????

Look, it's late so I am going to say this one more time. Go back, multi quote and then I'll address what you are attributing to me. That way we are clear on who said what.

If you are incapable of this simple task, talk to me tomorrow, because I don't have time to sift through who said what.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Another anti-Obama thread!

While it is true that he has had his failings, the real problem is that he failed to push forward the DNC platform of August, 2008. Instead, he timidly asked Republicans in Congress to approve of his plan unlike Bush who pushed forward his pro war corporatist agenda and resorted to every lie imaginable to get his way done. Had Obama not been so weak willed and used the same tactics he could have had the needed reform done. The economy would have been far better off.

As for the media, there wasn't a word of criticism from the NY Times or Washington Post when Bush got his war and Patriot Act. They readily approved of the needless wars and refused to pose challenging questions in the news conferences. Significantly, only BBC and other foreign media did so when allowed to pose questions (unlike Jeff Gannon and others like him). And, of course, we know of Bush's ties to the right wing National Religious Broadcasters along with religious bigots Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.

I wonder what Rex Murphy thinks about all this. It's a good bet he never wrote any criticism but if he did, post a link so that we can see whether he was ever fair and balanced in his reporting and criticism.

I'd have to dig, but I can pretty much guarantee that there is literature out there written by Rex Murphy that chastises George W Bush, I can almost guarantee it. Murphy is not a right or left wing commentator. He is a journalist with integrity who speaks his mind.

Here it is as if you didn't know.

After reviewing your post I will concede that you did not blame Bush in that post.

As if I didn't know. LOL. Congratulations on correcting your quote handicap.

Or is that handicapable?

Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/u...ffair-disastrous-post1479161.html#post1479161
It's gopher bullsh!t.

He is wholly unqualified to be President. You can blame Bush all you want. Bush is gone and Obama cannot blame all his shortcomings on his predecessor. But you can.​



How did you find this? I just went back to look for it only to discover that my post was censored? Check for yourself.



Good grief.

 
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gopher

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Originally Posted by DaSleeper

Gopher you dingbat...I'm the one who wrote Blame Bush because your favorite phrase is BLAME OBAMA, BUSH, ClINTON or whatever
Now compare that with:


Retired_Can_SoldierElected Senator

After reviewing your post I will concede that you did not blame Bush in that post.
See Sleeper?

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Retired_Can_Soldier Elected Senator

How did you find this? I just went back to look for it only to discover that my post was censored? Check for yourself.[
You're post was edited because there is a new enforcement procedure about using profanity like you used.

For the future, please read my post. Don't read into it.


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Now that we have settled that I did NOT blame Bush, let us see if we can deal with the issue on this thread:


First let's begin by repeating this truth: that Obama is too cowardly to impose FDR or true Democratic party solutions to the mess that exists today.

Second, that the news media is NOT playing up to Obama as is alleged in this thread's initial post.

For example, he has been largely criticized by the liberal Huffington Post:

Huffington Attacks Obama on Economy, but Misses the Mark

Note that my source (as usual) is conservative.

Huffington has been even more critical lately by accusing Obama of deliberating omitting its reporters from his conferences. The ultra liberal SF Chronicle has also accused Obama of omitting its reporters from his conferences and his policy on Guantanamo trials. You have already read my link to the liberal LA Times and its attack on Obama. Add to this all the attacks on him by Fox, Breitbart, and all other right wing media sources. Now try to prove to me that the media have treated him with kid gloves.