Several dead, many wounded in bus attack in Israel

[Colpy]

Gaza War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gaza Strip : Total killed: 1,417 Civilians: 926

Over 4,000 homes destroyed; around $2bn worth of damage to Gaza

Tell you what, you quote wikipedia, I'll quote a Hamas minister......

in a November 2010 interview given by Hamas Interior Minister Fathi Hamad to the Al-Hayat newspaper, Hamad acknowledged that 600-700 Hamas members were killed in the Gaza fighting. This more than doubles the number of combatants published by the NGOs’ and Goldstone’s unreliable version of events, and is another example of false claims used to justify indictments against Israel.

NGO and Goldstone Casualty Claims Contradicted

And you know, seeing as you like wikipedia (as do I), here is an article from them on casualties:

Israeli-Arab journalist Khaled Abu Toameh wrote in The Jerusalem Post that this practice led to the over-counting of civilian casualties and under-counting Hamas military casualties, as Palestinian casualties arrived at hospitals without weapons or any other signs revealing they were actually fighters.[

In an interview published in the London-based Arabic newspaper Al Hayat (November 1, 2010), Hamas interior minister Fathi Hammad stated that around 700 of the Gaza fatalities were Hamas fighters or militants from allied groups such as Islamic Jihad. Between 200 to 300 of these were from Hamas, and a similar number were from other militant groups, along with about 150 security forces. These figures differ dramatically from those given at the time of the conflict by Hamas. As the Agence France Presse correspondent commented, "His numbers roughly match the 709 "terror operatives" the Israeli military said it had killed during the fighting, which included members of the Hamas-run police force that has patrolled Gaza since the group seized power in 2007."[

Casualties of the Gaza War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AbtFet]

peace will happen when those tools in israel realize they can't force people out of their homes and settle on occupied land.
as well getting rid of their extremist right-wing government

 

[gerryh]

Yeah, the Israeli settlers in the West Bank and the intense blockade on Gaza.

The Blockade is a direct result of attacks on Israeli citizens on Israeli soil. As for West Bank settlement, the Israeli government did start to rectify that, to which the Palestinian response was more attacks rather than a decrease.

Try again. At this point you have basically backed yourself into a corner and for the most part acceded and reinforced your opponents position. As I said earlier, you would be far better off letting this particular thread slide into oblivion and try again when you have learned more about what is going on over there.

 

[Colpy]

Hamas is not going to stop attacking those clowns , they've blockaded them to an economic death.

If Hamas quit firing rockets and attacking civilians, the blockade could go, couldn't it?

As it is, the idiots of Hamas have now re-armed, and have therefore ended the truce, and will now have to be blasted back into insignificance by the IDF.

While the useful idiots (see your mirror) all cry "foul" on Israel........

Them damn Jews just don't line up for the slaughter like they used to, do they?????

 

[AbtFet]

and the attacks on israel were in response to oppression of gaza and imperialistic aggression, you try again.

 

[lone wolf]

peace will happen when those tools in israel realize they can't force people out of their homes and settle on occupied land.
as well getting rid of their extremist right-wing government

Peace isn't about to happen until a council of tribes is established and handcuffed together and locked in so everyone really has a stake in the pot they keep stirring.

 

[Colpy]

peace will happen when those tools in israel realize they can't force people out of their homes and settle on occupied land.
as well getting rid of their extremist right-wing government

I don't like Netanyahu either, nor his idiot foreign minister.

I guess the Palestinians should not have let Arafat spit in the face of Ehud Barak, huh??

You reap what you sow.

 

[AbtFet]

If Hamas quit firing rockets and attacking civilians, the blockade could go, couldn't it?

As it is, the idiots of Hamas have now re-armed, and have therefore ended the truce, and will now have to be blasted back into insignificance by the IDF.

While the useful idiots (see your mirror) all cry "foul" on Israel........

Them damn Jews just don't line up for the slaughter like they used to, do they?????

of course Hamas ended the truce, Gaza was attacked .
Israeli morons provoking things once again.
you realize every major war was started by these Israeli idiots?

 

[gerryh]

and the attacks on israel were in response to oppression of gaza and imperialistic aggression, you try again.

and round and round we go. What oppression and what imperialistic aggression.


It is so nice though, that you do acknowledge that my statements are accurate without requesting me to back them up. Now you on the other hand..... back up your statements, because I don't trust YOU to tell the truth. If you don't, then I will take those statements as just one more lie.

 

[Colpy]

and the attacks on israel were in response to oppression of gaza and imperialistic aggression, you try again.

Those words mean nothing. They do not indicate a physical attack by Israel on Gaza.....which did not happen. Hamas has peace in its hand always, and it always choses war. Israel simply reacts.

 

[lone wolf]

OVER reacts....

 

[Colpy]

of course Hamas ended the truce, Gaza was attacked .
Israeli morons provoking things once again.
you realize every major war was started by these Israeli idiots?

ahhh...Israel was attacked......DUH. From the Sinai. By Gazans. Which Hamas is responsible for.

Did they have you in mind when they coined the phrase "useful idiot"????

 

[AbtFet]

What oppression and what imperialistic aggression.

Is this a joke?

 

[Colpy]

OVER reacts....

Over reaction would be the wholesale slaughter of Gazans.....personally, I think Israeli reaction is extremely understated.......balanced.

 

[gerryh]

of course Hamas ended the truce, Gaza was attacked .
Israeli morons provoking things once again.
you realize every major war was started by these Israeli idiots?

The PRC attacked Israel on Israeli soil. The PRC is funded by Hamas. It was not Israel that ended the truce. Hamas, however, is hoping to be able to continue to use their mentally deficient supporters from around the world to support their allegations that they have nothing to do with the PRC and that the attack by Israel was unprovoked.

 

[Colpy]

Is this a joke?

No.

You're a joke.

Try and keep it straight.

 

[AbtFet]

Those words mean nothing. They do not indicate a physical attack by Israel on Gaza.....which did not happen. Hamas has peace in its hand always, and it always choses war. Israel simply reacts.

Don't be an idiot . You would lash out with extreme aggression too if you were being oppressed and forced from your home by foreign occupying scum.

 

[gerryh]

Is this a joke?

Nope, back up your statements.

 

[Colpy]

Don't be an idiot . You would lash out with extreme aggression too if you were being oppressed and forced from your home by foreign occupying scum.

You are losing it.....who is forcing Gazans from their homes?????

 

[lone wolf]

Over reaction would be the wholesale slaughter of Gazans.....personally, I think Israeli reaction is extremely understated.......balanced.

Reacting would be taking out the bomber and knocking down the bomber's house. Indiscriminate retaliation is no better than indiscriminate terrorism.