Several dead, many wounded in bus attack in Israel

[Cliffy]

The US has never purposely targeted a "wedding party".

So they unintentionally hit 5 wedding parties. And you know this because?

Seems to me that the US is always bragging about how advanced and precise their bombing technology is. They can hit a target from a long distance using Smart Bombs and painting their targets. So how do they unintentionally hit 5 wedding parties with such advanced technology?

 

[CDNBear]

Why don't you rephrase them again in a paragraph, without the cut+paste of my quotes. It would be a really nice, constructive favour, pal.

What tune are you playing in the back ground, for that dance you're doing?

Are you going to answer the questions, yes or no?

It really is that simple. If you really were sincere about middle ground and all.

 

[Goober]

Yes, at the time of the attack, I stated it was a possibility. As I mentioned to Bear earlier, there's been protests by Israelis themselves against their own government. It was one possibility that they would attack their own military personnel - perhaps out of spite, perhaps out of pure anger. Who knows. There was also the possibility that Mumbarak followers could have done it. And of course, obviously, it could be Hamas as well.

Well that is comparable to a Blood Libel - Much like the Blood Libel that Jews were warned to evacuate the Twin towers before the planes hit. That is another so called plot by Jews

 

[mentalfloss]

What tune are you playing in the back ground, for that dance you're doing?

Are you going to answer the questions, yes or no?

It really is that simple. If you really were sincere about middle ground and all.

If I gave you a random apology would you do the favour for me?

Because I honestly don't even know what you're even talking about anymore.

 

[CDNBear]

So they unintentionally hit 5 wedding parties. And you know this because?

Because the US operates under the ROE. And has a written policy on avoiding civilian casualties.

Seems to me that the US is always bragging about how advanced and precise their bombing technology is.

Ya, I know about people that brag. There was aguy here bragging about a guy he knew that was in demolition. but the guy coudn't tell me what type of demolition or what company the guy worked for.

That's the thing about bragging.

They can hit a target from a long distance using Smart Bombs and painting their targets. So how do they unintentionally hit 5 wedding parties with such advanced technology?

Law of averages.

If I gave you a random apology would you do the favour for me?

Nope.

Because I honestly don't even know what you're even talking about anymore.

I mastered the ability of scrolling back, years ago. Not that you have in this string, but please avoid questioning my intelligence in the future.

 

[mentalfloss]

Well that is comparable to a Blood Libel - Much like the Blood Libel that Jews were warned to evacuate the Twin towers before the planes hit. That is another so called plot by Jews

Yea, I don't think it's a Jew conspiracy or anything. Pissed off people sometimes kill other people - whether it's right or wrong.

I mastered the ability of scrolling back, years ago. Not that you have in this string, but please avoid questioning my intelligence in the future.

Sorry if you took that as an offense to your intelligence. I honestly forgot where we're at and I'm too lazy to really go back right now.

 

[CDNBear]

Sorry if you took that as an offense to your intelligence.

I didn't. It was just a heads up.

I honestly forgot where we're at and I'm too lazy to really go back right now.

That's a shame.

I guess you'll never finally figure out how you proved your own logical inconsistency.

 

[mentalfloss]

I didn't. It was just a heads up.

That's a shame.

I guess you'll never finally figure out how you proved your own logical inconsistency.

I guess I won't.

 

[Cliffy]

Because the US operates under the ROE. And has a written policy on avoiding civilian casualties.

Ya, I know about people that brag. There was aguy here bragging about a guy he knew that was in demolition. but the guy coudn't tell me what type of demolition or what company the guy worked for.

That's the thing about bragging.
Law of averages.

So in your mind stating a fact that disagrees with your opinion is bragging. I don't know who he works for. We are not that close. The ex-Special Forces is a friend of mine and I presented his opinion to show that not everybody believes the official story. But you just keep on with your little ego trip, interrogating those you disagree with, convoluting the issues until your opponent is so confused by your obfuscation of what they said that they have no idea what you are talking about any more.

I'm sorry, but your belief in your own objectivity is subject to your own self importance. You are not objective and you are not trying to get to the truth. You are trying to discredit anyone you disagree with or think is left leaning in their opinions. All you do is call people down and belittle them in the vain hope they will go away so you and your buddies can pat each other on the back for your victory. Your line of interrogation is so typically military in its style. You will do anything to prove you are right and they are wrong. That is why I will rarely engage you in discussion. I am not here to engage in egotistical pissing matches with anyone.

Babble on. I'm finished with you.

 

[CDNBear]

Strike a nerve did I Cliffy?

So in your mind stating a fact that disagrees with your opinion is bragging.

It's a fact when you can back it up. Since you ignored my request to qualify your source, it's anecdotal opinion at best.

But you just keep on with your little ego trip, interrogating those you disagree with, convoluting the issues until your opponent is so confused by your obfuscation of what they said that they have no idea what you are talking about any more.

Yes, I've been told many of you seem perplexed when I dissect your posts.

You should work on that.

I'm sorry, but your belief in your own objectivity is subject to your own self importance.

No, it's based on the definition thereof.

You are not objective and you are not trying to get to the truth.

That's a subjective opinion, based solely on your perception, heavily influenced by my dissension.

You are trying to discredit anyone you disagree with or think is left leaning in their opinions.

Five Paradox would disagree. Not to mention the fact that I'm left of center myself.

All you do is call people down and belittle them in the vain hope they will go away so you and your buddies can pat each other on the back for your victory.

You mean like you are doing here, instead of just addressing the facts in my post? I only engage in that course of action after reasoned discussion is exhausted. Whereas it seems you do it when you're confronted with data you can't counter.

Your line of interrogation is so typically military in its style.

Well duh! How else do you get to the meat of the matter?

You will do anything to prove you are right and they are wrong.

That's why I use facts.

That is why I will rarely engage you in discussion.

No, you rarely engage me, because you got tired of me exposing your errors.

I am not here to engage in egotistical pissing matches with anyone.

Yet here you are. Instead of just addressing the facts in my post, dressing me down.

Babble on. I'm finished with you.

I take it that means you couldn't find a written policy or section of the US ROE, that indicates the US military is allowed to purposely target civilians?

 

[mentalfloss]

So in your mind stating a fact that disagrees with your opinion is bragging. I don't know who he works for. We are not that close. The ex-Special Forces is a friend of mine and I presented his opinion to show that not everybody believes the official story. But you just keep on with your little ego trip, interrogating those you disagree with, convoluting the issues until your opponent is so confused by your obfuscation of what they said that they have no idea what you are talking about any more.

I'm sorry, but your belief in your own objectivity is subject to your own self importance. You are not objective and you are not trying to get to the truth. You are trying to discredit anyone you disagree with or think is left leaning in their opinions. All you do is call people down and belittle them in the vain hope they will go away so you and your buddies can pat each other on the back for your victory. Your line of interrogation is so typically military in its style. You will do anything to prove you are right and they are wrong. That is why I will rarely engage you in discussion. I am not here to engage in egotistical pissing matches with anyone.

Babble on. I'm finished with you.

Thanks Cliff.

I think I'm going to take that route as well if the discussion gets too convoluted and ridiculous.

 

[CDNBear]

I think I'm going to take that route as well if the discussion gets too convoluted and ridiculous.

If you don't like convoluted and ridiculous, stop taking that route.

It was your dodging and deflecting that got you confused in the first place.

ETA: I just checked, and I can find no less than a dozen posts, in which you deflect and dodge, word smith and otherwise try and obfuscate the conversation. As to avoid admitting error, or accepting that some has proven their claim.

Maybe you and Cliffy could get together and start an obfuscation self help group. Or just join mauledbutnotforgetten.ca . That's a site created by the cry babies, err... my victims, as they call themselves. I'm sure you'll find all the ego stroking support you need for all your unsupportable claims about me there.

Enjoy.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

111 posts after a terrorist attack that kills a bunch of civilians and as usual it ends up being Israel was heavy handed.

 

[CDNBear]

111 posts after a terrorist attack that kills a bunch of civilians and as usual it ends up being Israel was heavy handed.

The usual opinion, promoted by the usual suspects, with the usual member being called out for being tenacious and objective.

 

[mentalfloss]

111 posts after a terrorist attack that kills a bunch of civilians and as usual it ends up being Israel was heavy handed.

They weren't?

 

[Colpy]

They weren't?

They were attacked, took casualties.......they struck back and killed those responsible.

How is that heavy-handed?????

 

[mentalfloss]

They were attacked, took casualties.......they struck back and killed those responsible.

How is that heavy-handed?????

I think it was unnecessary.

As a parallel example, the war in Iraq after 9-11 was also unnecessary.

 

[Colpy]

It was unnecessary?

Come on!!! You are not usually one of the "Gee Let's get the Jews to line up nicely in front of the showers" people.

Never again means NEVER take it lying down again. It means there is ONLY one acceptable response to being attacked.....and that is to retaliate with greater force than used against.

In a nasty world, especially when you are a Jew, that is sanity.

Anything else is stupidity.

Remember the Jews were passive in Europe....it did them a lot of good, didn't it??????

 

[mentalfloss]

Come on!!! You are not usually one of the "Gee Let's get the Jews to line up nicely in front of the showers" people.

Never again means NEVER take it lying down again. It means there is ONLY one acceptable response to being attacked.....and that is to retaliate with greater force than used against.

In a nasty world, especially when you are a Jew, that is sanity.

Anything else is stupidity.

Remember the Jews were passive in Europe....it did them a lot of good, didn't it??????

This has nothing to do with being a Jew.

I just believe if you're the stronger power, then you can use that strength to defend yourself - no offensive missions required.

And no, anything else is not "stupidity".

They could've used this incident as a bargaining tool for diplomacy and now it was wasted.

 

[CDNBear]

They could've used this incident as a bargaining tool for diplomacy and now it was wasted.

No, the perpetrators (Not negligent parties :roll got wasted.