2011 Canadian Football League
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Probably tastier than this:
On the left you'll notice the enter to win flap for a Rider Pride riding mower.
On the left you'll notice the enter to win flap for a Rider Pride riding mower.
What an excellent lions discussion on Team 1040 this afternoon, so glad I didn't miss it. Angus Reid,
Glen Suter, and Dave Pratt, (who didn't say much at all).
The two guys discussed every aspect of the team they could muster. Such intelligent insight into the
success and failures of football teams, they discussed the 'room'. They discussed each player and
all the changes that have been made to the lineup. They discussed lulay, and glen suter suggested that
they 'not' take him out and start 'Jarius', that lulay needs to ride this out with the team.
Suter has so much experience as a player, he injected many neat ideas into the discussion. He made sure to mention, that 'all' teams have been there, he has been
there, he knows how it feels.
He also said he has gone back and watched every lions game this season, and instead of seeing the mistakes,
that everyone knows happened, he picked out the good and great things about players performances this
season, and that was very refreshing, as he stated individuals who have looked great.
Angus discussed Wally, and 'how', if wally was a reason why the team is having problems, would have
stepped aside, but all agreed that 'he' was not the reason, but of course everyone must take responsibility
and look in the mirror.
They both agreed that the mistakes are 'all' over the place, and are little things that have made a
difference in outcomes, a dropped ball, a missed tackle, a bad throw by the quarter back, but they
also made sure to mention that 'all' quarter backs will 'not' be perfect, but their good throws
must be caught, when possible.
Each time the game was on the line, near the end of the game, the 'other' team came out with the
play to get the win, not the lions.
Lions and Roughriders are in approx the same position going into the game this week, so it will be
interesting to see them fight it out, as both teams are very hungry for a win.
Brailey came to town the other day, looking at realestate, didn't come to fire wally. lol
I'm sure they got together to discuss the team of course, they both are feeling this problem.
Good stuff
GO LIONS GO
Glen Suter, and Dave Pratt, (who didn't say much at all).
The two guys discussed every aspect of the team they could muster. Such intelligent insight into the
success and failures of football teams, they discussed the 'room'. They discussed each player and
all the changes that have been made to the lineup. They discussed lulay, and glen suter suggested that
they 'not' take him out and start 'Jarius', that lulay needs to ride this out with the team.
Suter has so much experience as a player, he injected many neat ideas into the discussion. He made sure to mention, that 'all' teams have been there, he has been
there, he knows how it feels.
He also said he has gone back and watched every lions game this season, and instead of seeing the mistakes,
that everyone knows happened, he picked out the good and great things about players performances this
season, and that was very refreshing, as he stated individuals who have looked great.
Angus discussed Wally, and 'how', if wally was a reason why the team is having problems, would have
stepped aside, but all agreed that 'he' was not the reason, but of course everyone must take responsibility
and look in the mirror.
They both agreed that the mistakes are 'all' over the place, and are little things that have made a
difference in outcomes, a dropped ball, a missed tackle, a bad throw by the quarter back, but they
also made sure to mention that 'all' quarter backs will 'not' be perfect, but their good throws
must be caught, when possible.
Each time the game was on the line, near the end of the game, the 'other' team came out with the
play to get the win, not the lions.
Lions and Roughriders are in approx the same position going into the game this week, so it will be
interesting to see them fight it out, as both teams are very hungry for a win.
Brailey came to town the other day, looking at realestate, didn't come to fire wally. lol
I'm sure they got together to discuss the team of course, they both are feeling this problem.
Good stuff
GO LIONS GO
Darn, I forgot to tune into today, talloola.............sounds like it was a good interview. Thanks for the update. You are right about our teams. It will be interesting to see if they both rise to the occasion. I am very laid back about the team this year - glad when they win and not really that disappointed when they lose. I see that they are still making changes and tweaking plays and sticking with the ones that are working. My wish is that the game is not decided by some questionable call by the refs.
Good luck to both our teams, talloola.
Good luck to both our teams, talloola.
Man I so admire the marketing skills of the Roughriders.Probably tastier than this:
On the left you'll notice the enter to win flap for a Rider Pride riding mower.
Suter said he stuck to his comments of last week and asked the question "why isn't coaching on the table"? He was being politically correct because he doesn't want to trash Wally, but he and others pointed out the issue of three straight poor seasons and the existing one without a win, and yet coaching isn't accountable to anyone. They specifically discussed that no one above Wally was a real football guy. Unlike the days when he could talk to Ackles, guys like Braley and Skulsky are simply business guys. Those poor seasons are the post-Ackles era..no coincidence. Too much football responsibility is carried on Wally's back.
yes, those were his comments of last week, but he did big back peddling on this newest chat, probably
because angus reid was there, so he softened up his comments.
I will go with the angus reid comments, makes sense to me, he is on the inside, he knows wally much better
than suter, and suter was flapping his yap last week without anyone from the team to challenge him.
I heard most of the chat, suter didn't say directly that wally should step down like he did last week,
where he said wally should pick one of the positions.
I am not going to dwell on that detail, as the complete chat was very informative, 'positive', sincere,
intelligent, and left everyone with a good feeling and not any feeling at all of doom and gloom.
I like that, the doom and gloom thing drags everyone down, and players and coaches are not like that, as
they know that is negative and not constructive at all to success, and just shows weakness and a throwing
in the towel attitude.
If wally is going to make a change to 'his' position, he will do it in the off season, which makes the
most sense, they need to push on, keep trying, make changes in players, as they did today, as anything
else just drags the team in the opposite direction too long, not enough games in the season for that.
Angus Reid barely has a job with BC. He was cut for a while last year. He won't be saying anything but positive if he wants to stay employed.
Wally should've made changes in the last off season. Probably too late to do anything now but yet another season gets flushed.
Wally should've made changes in the last off season. Probably too late to do anything now but yet another season gets flushed.
Personally, as a big Lions fan, Wally Buono ought to fire himself as coach and let someone else take over. I heard Suter also talk about questioning Buono. Buono is a legend with the most games won, but suddenly he has lost it. These things happen and it's time to make a coaching change.
you are a sad case kreskin, maybe if you switch to edmonton, you will cheer up. lol
coaching change, if made, should be in the off season.
Wally hasn't lost anything. He can't run up and down the field correcting the
silly things the players are doing, dropping balls, missing tackles etc.
Players have to improve, stop making mistakes, and win a game.
A player doesn't drop a ball because the coach isn't any good.
I agree mid-season is not the right time for a coaching change, but there is something off right now with the Lions. Feels a bit like not taking out Luongo when he can't stop a beachball. Coaching pride gets in the way.
Can't admit an error.
all of the errors have happened right in front of us on the 'tube', by players.
my whole point is this: the team needs to keep trying to win, and taking the coach out of the
equation 'right now' won't do that, there is more of a chance that they win a game 'staying' as is with coaching,
and make changes in player personnel, as they did yesterday, too bad new player can't play on friday.
If this was hockey, I could look at it differently, 'maybe', one still doesn't jump all over the coach,
when it is obvious that the 'type' of mistakes being made aren't coaching type, but players clumsiness.
It is far too easy to 'crap' all over the coach, by fans and other onlookers, but I can't understand why
same people aren't even mentioning the player responsibilities.
Everything the player does isn't happening because of the coach.
I am not an experienced football follower, but what I have noticed with many players in football, is an
arrogance that isn't very flattering, would much rather see the more humble approach, same as we see from
hockey players, who in my opinion are a much more 'mentally tough' athlete.
Instead of flapping the yap, whenever the camera is on you, shut your mouth and pay attention to whats
going on.
Fred Stamps and Ricky Ray are both looking really good. They are both big reasons the Eskies are 5-0. I think the whole team is doing a lot of the right things, things that weren't happening so easily and as readily in the past couple seasons. A big thing is they ARE protecting Ricky a bit better and when he has that time, he is as good as a QB gets. Stamps right now is the best WR in the league and if he can keep it going, will have an MVP year.
There are a lot of questions behind simply " what is causing the errors". Are the schemes too complex or changing too often for the players to get it right? Is it mental lapses? Are they simply errors in execution? Is the talent there to make the plays? Mistakes almost always appear to be made by players but sometimes the same errors are a coaching error, in terms of calling the right type of coverage, having the right players involved (match ups) etc.
I am all for athletes "shutting their holes and knowing their roles" but I think some of the issue with football players and their touchiness is the short season and thus small window for making things happen. If you get benched for a game in football thats like being out for 5 games in hockey. They also have to be fierce competitors, like any athlete aspiring to get to the top of their sport. Couple all this with the knowledge that injuries are pretty much a "when" not an "if" because of the nature of the sport, and I can see how guys do get upset. Everyone knows they have a limited time to make an impact and they want the opportunity to do so... and if those around you appear to be costing you that opportunity and possibly your chance to earn your livelihood, you're going to have (at best) limited tolerance for those mistakes. Some of the yapping is also just keeping themselves keyed up and in the game too.
As for the Lions, I'm not sure bringing Arland Bruce into the mix is a good move but we'll see.
I don't follow the team as closely as I used to. But when the coach and GM are the same guy, he gets all the players he wants, there's no conflict here. The players seem to be talented, but missing something, and the current coach isn't providing the glue or leadership or something. Last year they got rid of Printers and the season improved. I thought Wally stayed with him too long.
All members plus coaches must take responsibility, that is a given, and wally will do that better than most.
I don't know anything about arland bruce, but they must bring in 'more' experienced players, and he is that.
He won't be playing next game anyway, so hopefully they can win without him in the lineup, then bring him in
to the lineup and win again. Be positive 'always', none of this negative stuff, nothing good happens on
negativity and whining, its just ranting with no positive influence on anything.
I guess people feel they have to complain because they have no power to do anything else, but be heard.
That is OK I guess, freedom of speech.
I'm not saying the players are trashing each other on camera, they just seem to be acting, its like they
haven't seen a camera before, seems so childish to me, similar to their 'obviously rehersed' after scoring
dances with each other or alone, so glad most of that crap has been cut back.
If we ever saw hockey players do that, we would die of shame and embarrassment, as would other players.
Media are always complaining that hockey players don't do enough 'talking' during interviews, media wants
to hear them say more interesting things, BUT what the media really want, is to hear negative things so
they can run with it, and make a mountain out of a mole hill, and the players know that, and they see
that the media are mostly made up of guys begging for stories to tell.
The positive statement I can make today is- 'the lions are due to win one'. GO LIONS GO
There are basic role responsibilities in hockey but it's a little more artistic, whereas football is a choreographed X's and O's chess match. You can have a great set of players but unless they are coached to work precisely together they'll lose every game. Blocking schemes are far more complex as a unit than, for example, playing the trap in hockey.
I don't blame Wally. I think he's doing the best he can. I think Braley has put him in a real tough spot.
I don't blame Wally. I think he's doing the best he can. I think Braley has put him in a real tough spot.