Want you car impounded come to bc

[bluebyrd35]

LOL well it seems to me personal freedom should not be extended to the right to damage, cause injury or death to others. Even in the US where many are very gung-ho on the right to own and use guns, owners are prosecuted when those guns are used inappropriately; particularly if a child accidently kills or injures themselves or others, because proper safety measures were not taken.

We can and do, through our justice system try to punish or gain recompense for those injured or killed by drunk drivers, but it seems to me that prevention is a much better course to follow.

Shouldn't personal freedom extend to the right of a majority to not have to worry about contending with drunken dolts on the roads?? It is enough in my opinion, to worry about speeders, poor roads and just plain rotten drivers. Since I drive thousands of miles every year, I really do not want to have to worry about inebrieted sots as well.

 

[Mowich]

I am very sorry for your tragedy bluebyrd, however I am both afraid and tired of the incremental nature of the loss of personal freedom and responsibility in this country in general and BC in particular. We need a big change beginning with kicking out the corrupt RCMP from the provinces

I fail to see how stricter driving and drinking rules will eliminate my personal responsibility to abide by those rules.

 

[bluebyrd35]

I fail to see how stricter driving and drinking rules will eliminate my personal responsibility to abide by those rules.

My point exactly. Some are incorrigible drunks and will continue to drink and drive inspite of fines or even jail. They drive without licenses and even "borrow" vehicles when impaired. Making it impossible for anyone to drive while over the limit would solve the problem. It would cost but perhaps that could be offset by a government grant when one buys a new car. It may even lighten the cost to the country's court systems, jails, payouts by car & life insurances who knows?? We may even get a break on the premiums and taxes. Well you never know;-)

 

[karrie]

I can't imagine whining if I were to get caught going 40 over the speed limit, and had to deal with the laws of the land as a result. Ignorance of the law is no defense.

 

[grumpydigger]

Nail the drunk drivers hard. .08 criminal charges

But for some reason this new noncriminal .05 law in British Columbia where they confiscate your car and give you severe financial penalties is being manipulated to corrupt the statistics.

For some reason, the truly dangerous over .08 drivers who cause the bulk of the fatalities have disappeared.......simply because at .05you have lost your right to a lawyer, a judge and due process of the law.

Sounds quite suspicious to me.

 

[wulfie68]

My only issue is with impounding the vehicles between 0.05 and 0.08 for impaired driving. That impounding is on the table for this, with no legal recourse or due process, I agree with DG. 40kph speeding? Thats a no brainer: in other provinces (such as Alberta) it can get earn a dangerous driving charge and subsequent 6 month suspension. Hell, they'd make major bucks if they set up a couple traps on the Alaska Hwy north of Ft St John... place used to be like a race track at times...

 

[petros]

Drunks have nasty habits of doing stupid things like walking around for 20 mins then hopping back in the car that wasn't towed away.

Any questions?

 

[grumpydigger]

At.05 Having your car towed and a 24-hour suspension is pretty standard In most Canadian provinces

In British Columbia at .05 A non-criminal law Will confiscate your car for 10 days Give you a $2000 fine And force you To put Alcohol interlock device on your car...............And you cannot Fight the decision With a lawyer and a judge in a court of law......Because the cop is the judge jury and executioner at the roadside...............And you have not Broken Any criminal law..........

The British Columbia Liberal government are collecting massive amounts of fines from people that have not technically even broken the law...............I think Joseph's stalin or the Communist China government would be very proud to be connected with this.

And don't tell me taking .05 drivers off the road is lowering the traffic fatalities. because the drivers that are blowing well over .08 are still out there laughing at this law.

 

[petros]

 

[gerryh]

still whining about not being able to speed or drink in drive in BC I see.

 

[petros]

It's even illegal to ride a handicapped scooter while impaired. WTF makes you think 3250lb more isn't as dangerous with someone who has been drinking and is behind the wheel?

 

[winespius]

Posts 6 and 28 are spot on...in .what other "free democracy" can you have your property confiscated by the state for not breaking the law...?
The corrupt RCMP must be kicked out of the west asap,,, a national police should not be checking seat belts and giving speeding tickets..

 

[TenPenny]

Posts 6 and 28 are spot on...in .what other "free democracy" can you have your property confiscated by the state for not breaking the law...?
The corrupt RCMP must be kicked out of the west asap,,, a national police should not be checking seat belts and giving speeding tickets..

In Ontario, for one. You can have your property confiscated for being charged with breaking the law. (ie, under the so-called 'stunt driving law').

And in NB and many other provinces, you can have your property confiscated if it is 'deemed to be from the proceeds of crime', even if you have not been charged, much less found guilty, of any crime.

It's even illegal to ride a handicapped scooter while impaired. WTF makes you think 3250lb more isn't as dangerous with someone who has been drinking and is behind the wheel?

People in the US have been charged for driving a ride-on lawnmower while impaired, and I think there was a recent case around here of a guy charged when he rolled his backhoe over his fence into his neighbor's yard while impaired.

 

[winespius]

People have been charged with impaired on bicycles and horses ffs...does that make it right?

 

[gerryh]

I see the alcoholics are still whining about this.

 

[winespius]

Piss off...you're not an alcoholic until you start going to those meetings...

 

[gerryh]

Piss off...you're not an alcoholic until you start going to those meetings...

roflmfao..... ya...ok.

 

[lone wolf]

Piss off...you're not an alcoholic until you start going to those meetings...

Naw ... some of the people who attend those meetings use the term "latent alcoholic" even if you've never had an alcoholic beverage in your life....

 

[EcoRod]

Vehicle impounding should be illegal according to the Canadian Constitution. I was stopped for speeding and disputed it. I won the case and yet had already had my vehicle impounded. I had to pay a towing and impound fee and yet I was not guilty. The Police didn't refund my towing and impound fee.

In Canada a person is suppose to be innocent until proven guilty. However we now have this new road traffic law where the Cop on the size of the road is Judge, Jury and Executioner. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? What will be the next step in the government's removal of our rights and personal freedoms, and what will be their expedient excuse for introducing it?.

It seems to me there is too much at the discretion of the arresting officer. They often have little or no knowledge of the actual laws. They are simply tax collectors for our predatory government in the so called name of "Road safety". I'm all for driver education to reduce accidents but leaving the motorists fate in the hands of Cop on the roadside is not right.

 

[shadowshiv]

People have been charged with impaired on bicycles and horses ffs...does that make it right?

Sure it does. Someone can just as easily run someone over while riding a horse or a bicycle. People can get up to a pretty good clip riding a bike, and if you crash into someone walking you can seriously hurt them, or even kill them. So, yes, they should be charged with impaired just like if they were driving a car.