Immigration down 25% in first quarter of 2011

[Ariadne]

Yes, smarty pants, that's what the court said, but if they have no money to pay, or if they skip out and go back to their original country,,, who pays for the senior they brought here?? Ans. taxpayer pays!!

2% is far too high, it should be 0%, I don't pay taxes to look after seniors from some other country, that's their countries responsibility!!

If your so smart, and you know so much, why don't you yell us;
- by country of origin;
-immigration welfare rate
-immigration crime rate
-immigration unemployment rate
-immigration donation to charity rate
-assimilation rate
All by country of origin!!

This is just a start.

I'm pretty sure that there are youth crime stats that are much higher for some nationalities ... I could name a couple, but won't. That problem is a result of the child learning the language faster than the parent, so the child takes on the responsibilities of the parent and sometimes the youth becomes uncontrollable by the parent.

Immigrants V Visible Minorities ... hmmmmmm ... gotta be politically correct to be Canadian, eh.

 

[petros]

Visible minorities cost money

Are you ****ed in the head?

 

[Corduroy]

Visible minorities cost money,

How? Is there a subsidy for being a visible minority? Kinda like the northern living allowance?

Do you know the difference between an immigrant and a visible minority?

you can be against people who use up tax money, after all, it's our money.

Visible minorities can be native born citizens too.

Immigrants who sponsor their parents so the kids can be taken care of, and the seniors get thousands of tax dollars of support per year, this is govt paid daycare by the back door. And only immigrants can get it. Doesn't seem very fair to me.

Native born Canadian seniors get more tax dollars of support per year than immigrant seniors - mostly because they've paid more into CPP during their working lives and because you qualify for more benefits the longer you've lived in Canada. And do you think only immigrant grandparents are capable of taking care of their grandchildren?

When my dad and other Europeans came in the 1950s and 1960s they got nothing from the govt. I don't want any more money spent on settling immigrants.

Did your dad ever get old age benefits? How about health care?

 

[petros]

How? Is there a subsidy for being a visible minority? Kinda like the northern living allowance?

Do you know the difference between an immigrant and a visible minority?

Visible minorities can be native born citizens too.

Native born Canadian seniors get more tax dollars of support per year than immigrant seniors - mostly because they've paid more into CPP during their working lives and because you qualify for more benefits the longer you've lived in Canada. And do you think only immigrant grandparents are capable of taking care of their grandchildren?

Depending where you immigrate from you can collect CPP and pension from your place of origin and actually sometime contribute more to the economy than being a native born Canadian.

CRA has no issues taxing foreign sourced retirement income the same way as domestic.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

How? Is there a subsidy for being a visible minority? Kinda like the northern living allowance?

Do you know the difference between an immigrant and a visible minority?

Visible minorities can be native born citizens too.

Native born Canadian seniors get more tax dollars of support per year than immigrant seniors - mostly because they've paid more into CPP during their working lives and because you qualify for more benefits the longer you've lived in Canada. And do you think only immigrant grandparents are capable of taking care of their grandchildren?

Did your dad ever get old age benefits? How about health care?

Right now, immigration is all about visible minorities as most come from Asia and Africa. Yes, I know, there are visible minorirites born in Canada.

Immigrants and their supporters are using the argument that it is economically essential and multicultural bringing their parents over from Asia to take care of the kiddies and retain their culture. I disagree witht this policy because the cost is too high. Too high in taxes and too high in keeping immigrants feeling foreign in Canada. It creates ethnic neighbourhoods and ethnic cities. The village from Asia comes to Canada.

If we took in only economic immigrants, one at a time, then immigrants here would more likely marry a Canadianized immigrant, or a Canadian unconnected to their former village or region. Now they can bring a wife, children and relatives from their old village and create chain migration that slows down assimialtion and recreate their old world. I want them to become Canadians and assimilate as quickly as possible, and we are not doing this.

What we are getting are public schools, under the guise of human rights, letting turning a room into a mosque and making the women pray at the back of the room, or bus, to use an expression. Asians discriminate as a matter of course, and we let them. Time to end it.

My dad worked in Canada for 30 years and got a crap pension.

 

[Corduroy]

Right now, immigration is all about visible minorities as most come from Asia and Africa. Yes, I know, there are visible minorirites born in Canada.

If you know there's a difference between visible minorities and immigrants then why did you say visible minorities when you meant immigrants? For what reason do you draw attention to the colour of their skin?

My dad worked in Canada for 30 years and got a crap pension.

What about health care?

 

[petros]

My dad worked in Canada for 30 years and got a crap pension.

Well I guess we know who taught you your math. He had 30 years to invest in something other than just relying pension didn't he? Or did it cost him a fortune to keep bailing out your sorry ass?

 

[Ariadne]

Depending where you immigrate from you can collect CPP and pension from your place of origin and actually sometime contribute more to the economy than being a native born Canadian.

CRA has no issues taxing foreign sourced retirement income the same way as domestic.

I was going to say that about my father, who was a Dutch veteran so of course he had a benefit from his country of origin and health coverage here ... he would have had the same health coverage there, so that was not an incentive to live here. I don't know what happened with tax, but I suspect he was taxed in the Netherlands for the income. I don't think Canada could double tax. He remained a Dutch citizen so I think he paid tax for the income in the country of origin. Tax wouldn't necessarily be a factor, but spending would.

 

[petros]

And that's a perfect example of how "all these godless immmigrants" who are of elder years do benefit Canada. India pays pensions, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong etc. Those just the ones I can think of off hand.

And in many other nations that don't have pensions, their children are considered their pensions and it's their responsibility to take care of their seniors. They'll gladly take two jobs to do it.

 

[Ariadne]

True, but we're talking about someone that came to Canada at the age of 37 to fill a position and who worked for that company until retirement. The benefits of living in Canada or not were no different, and there were no factors other than the mountains, rivers, lakes and environment that kept him here.

I think today's immigrants are looking at the health care program, the vast country and comparing it to what they have ... and more or less looking at how to optimize the situation. Sometimes they take citizenship but return to ther native country because they like it better, for the most part ... maybe they like Canada's benefits better. Remember when there was bombing in Lebanon and Harper was flying home so he stopped in with his plane to evacuate Canadians and he ended up picking up a bunch of people that were actually born in Lebanon, living in Lebanon, but had Canadian passports ... and they demanded that Canada evacuate them because they had the passport. That's not the sort of immigrant we want ... but we have plenty like that. Remember they all landed at the airport here and had no where to go because ... ooops ... they didn't even live here.

 

[petros]

They just want to work and be able to have a decent home where they have security and can raise a family. There a lots who have came and left too. It's physically hard on a person to live in this country 6 months of the year.

 

[Ariadne]

6 months of the year is all that's needed for those benefits.

 

[petros]

6 months of the year is all that's needed for those benefits.

It takes you twice as long to get half as much.

 

[Ariadne]

... but that's a 1/4 in the long run and not quite how it is ... it's actually double pay for half as long, plus 2/3 on EI for the other half.

 

[Tonington]

Visible minorities cost money, you can be against people who use up tax money, after all, it's our money.

You cost tax payers money too.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

If you know there's a difference between visible minorities and immigrants then why did you say visible minorities when you meant immigrants? For what reason do you draw attention to the colour of their skin?

What about health care?

It's pointless talking about my dad because he had no complaints at all about Canada. He came like a Mexican, needed no tax money to do okay.

Vizmins, everyone's fave topic. Like the word says, they are not white, whether born in Canada or not. The media dislikes talking about race, but like talking about vizmins who often require equity programs because they seem to underachieve economically. Vizmins appear to need more attention than non-vizmins. This makes me a racialist, not a racist. And you too.

In the past there was massive discrimination against vizmins, and even non-vizmins like Italians and Ukrainians. Life was harsher in the old days. I just look at things economically lately, taking in large numbers of vizmins requires more money than non-vizmins to integrate them. Why spend more when you can spend less?

 

[petros]

When my great grandfathers and grandfather came here to the North West Territories there as nothing but nothing and lots of everything if you had the balls.

We've come full circle. What they set out to do and accomplished in what is now MB SK and AB took three generations. This is our next massive wave like the late 1800s and early 1900s all over again but this time the goal post have been moved further north and we need just as many if not more Millions of people that we don't have to pull it off.

Do you want to be #1 or not?

 

[Corduroy]

It's pointless talking about my dad because he had no complaints at all about Canada. He came like a Mexican, needed no tax money to do okay.

What about health care?

Vizmins, everyone's fave topic. Like the word says, they are not white, whether born in Canada or not. The media dislikes talking about race, but like talking about vizmins who often require equity programs because they seem to underachieve economically. Vizmins appear to need more attention than non-vizmins. This makes me a racialist, not a racist. And you too.

That's funny, because that looks a lot like racism to me. How do you define racialist?

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

What about health care?

That's funny, because that looks a lot like racism to me. How do you define racialist?

Canadians are clueless on the topic of race. I heard Ken Dryden say that language is just a way to communicate. Sure, try to explain a joke to someone learning English. Our humour is not universal. For most of the world language is what makes a people, a nation, a race. But in Canada, unlike most of the world, we got our language from elsewhere, England in Europe.

A racialist is a person who acknowledges the existence of race. Which most of the world does. Most people in Canada and the US just don't want to hear about race, the topic is taboo. Business says: "Just get them jobs ***dammit, we're so damn busy making a pile, we have no time or interest talking about it."

You really have to spend time outside Canada to get a feel for being a minority, white and Canadian, go to China for a while. They are quite frank discussing race. They are all racists by your definition because they think the Chinese race is best by far. Look how old their civilization is and how many people they have.

 

[petros]

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