Immigration down 25% in first quarter of 2011

[Durry]

That 2% is not the number of immigrant seniors on government assistance, but the average percentage of immigrants who arrive as seniors annually.

As I've already pointed out, the large numbers of immigrant seniors in this country, which make up a very large proportion of all seniors, are mostly people (over 50%) who have lived in Canada for over 40 years. Which means they were not seniors upon arrival and have contributed to society. Those percentages descend over decades. That is to say, the next highest percentage of immigrant seniors have been here for 30 years and so on. You cannot receive old age benefits unless you've lived here for 40 years, or Canada and your country of origin have a treaty to reciprocate social security benefits for immigrants and emigrants.

I'm not actually arguing either side of this issue. I said I would refute any bum stats you can come up with. However, you've already made it clear that you oppose immigration for racist reasons. I'm not even sure why you're bothering with costs, and why would I waste my time looking up information for someone who even if I could prove to them immigration had Canada boatloads of cash you still oppose it because he is a racist?

Your absolutley wrong, you don't need to be here for 40 yrs to receive old age benefit, just a Canadian citizen will do and adjusted for the yrs you have been here.
You really are not very well informed are you? I don't think you work for immigration Can. Surly they would employ brighter people than you seem to be.

Racist, because I don't agree with present immigration policies ? ? Another example of a clear lack of intellence!!
Go back to school, you are grossly in need of some education.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

What, like the Kwik-E-Mart?

There's no Kwik-E-Mart in BC, but coffee shops and factories. Exactly where they are needed.

 

[DurkaDurka]

There's no Kwik-E-Mart in BC, but coffee shops and factories. Exactly where they are needed.

I wouldn't say they are exactly "needed" at coffee shops, I don't think I have ever run into an understaffed Tim Horton's.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

I wouldn't say they are exactly "needed" at coffee shops, I don't think I have ever run into an understaffed Tim Horton's.

Basic entry level jobs that are always in demand due to high turnover. I've waited a bit at Tim Hortons for service, but I can live with it.

 

[Corduroy]

Racist, because I don't agree with present immigration policies ? ? Another example of a clear lack of intellence!!
Go back to school, you are grossly in need of some education.

You're a racist because you used this as an argument against immigration.

9. The number of visible minority neighbourhoods in Canada’s three largest cities increased from six in 1981 to 254 in 2001.

Why does it matter how many visible minorities there are? Something wrong with having more visible minorities? Only to a racist.

And look at you getting all in a tizzy because I know more than you are. Look how strenuously you're trying to insult my intelligence. Wow, it seems to have really struck a nerve.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

You're a racist because you used this as an argument against immigration.

Why does it matter how many visible minorities there are? Something wrong with having more visible minorities? Only to a racist.

And look at you getting all in a tizzy because I know more than you are. Look how strenuously you're trying to insult my intelligence. Wow, it seems to have really struck a nerve.

Newsflash: immigration is just another govt policy, it's not doctrine from the church where opposition is labeled heresy-and in your secular case, racism. You're sounding very dated and whiny.

Because I think races exist, I am a racialist, like 100% of the world's population, I am not a racist. If people are people, then why do the Chinese speak a different language and look different? How did that happen to people? No one knows, but we are different. People are different and nations are different, deal with it.

 

[DurkaDurka]

Basic entry level jobs that are always in demand due to high turnover. I've waited a bit at Tim Hortons for service, but I can live with it.

I usually hit the self-serve Horton's when I can, I tend not to screw my own orders up

 

[Corduroy]

Newsflash: immigration is just another govt policy, it's not doctrine from the church where opposition is labeled heresy-and in your secular case, racism. You're sounding very dated and whiny.

I would never say someone was a racist because they were against immigration. I would only call someone a racist if they said something racist. Durry makes out the increase of visible minorities as a bad thing. Looks glaringly racist to me. Can you think of a reason why it's bad without referring to race?

Because I think races exist, I am a racialist, like 100% of the world's population, I am not a racist. If people are people, then why do the Chinese speak a different language and look different? How did that happen to people? No one knows, but we are different. People are different and nations are different, deal with it.

What the **** are you going off on now?

 

[petros]

What "brand" of immigrants are acceptable to you dtm?

I wouldn't say they are exactly "needed" at coffee shops, I don't think I have ever run into an understaffed Tim Horton's.

For the past 3 years there has been a "help wanted" sign up at Tim Horton's in my neighbourhood. I see people who are thinking about working looking through help wanted ads every time I go but that sign is still up and the english of the Flips that do work there (one white guy with Downs is their boss) is getting better all the time.

 

[Durry]

You're a racist because you used this as an argument against immigration.

Oh, now that is really bright...
Your not worth spending time on!!

 

[mentalfloss]

Oh, now that is really bright...
Your not worth spending time on!!

Another successful argument.

 

[lone wolf]

Read your archive, then ask yourself: How DO you keep those sheets so white?

 

[petros]

Read your archive, then ask yourself: How DO you keep those sheets so white?

Borax.

 

[winespius]

The immigration department is a complete mess...there should be a 5yr moratorium on all immigration and severely reduced refugee numbers. It will take at least that time to find the missing ones with deportation orders!

 

[petros]

You are about to be overwhelmed with immigrants.....
Then what? Will you insist they all leave back to the US?

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

I would never say someone was a racist because they were against immigration. I would only call someone a racist if they said something racist. Durry makes out the increase of visible minorities as a bad thing. Looks glaringly racist to me. Can you think of a reason why it's bad without referring to race?

It's all poltics, and in politics you make decisions and choices. I'm a Canadian, I can decide what kind of people become Canadians. To my view now, an increase in visible minrorities means an increase in social programs for them, like $850 million in settlement costs each year.

Ethnic neighbourhoods are good, now we have ethnic cities. And ethnic major cities. Something seems a little wrong here. Sorry, Canada is for Canadians. And it takes more than a three year piece of paper to make you one. There are other cultural, social, and yes, racial factors.

Immigration dramatically increased to unprecedented levels in the late 1980s will no real public discussion. Those who disagreed were and are called racist. I find this highly irritating. We need immigrants and we everyone to talk about it, not just the elites.

 

[winespius]

The problem isn't just out of control immigration...the entire multicultural industry has to be abolished as well....along with the nasty official bilingualism industry....

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

The problem isn't just out of control immigration...the entire multicultural industry has to be abolished as well....along with the nasty official bilingualism industry....

One thing at a time. Reduce immigration first as the economy demands it. Any still seeing those help wanted signs around any more? No. They're gone and won't be coming back anytime soon.

Multiculturalism needs to be reduced to feel goodism because we want everyone to get along. But now, the immigration debate has an annoying moral tone, where if you disagree with the current dogma, you're a called bigot.

Perhaps immigration is Canada's globalization issue. For 20 years Asians and Africans have come in big numbers and find it tough here, as they require nearly a billion dollars a year in assistance. In part because third world engineers aren't. While Europeans would likely need far far less yax money. Maybe Canada isn't the idyllic oasis the multicultural crowd likes to crow about. While Canada is not as English as it used to be, it is still European.

 

[Corduroy]

It's all poltics, and in politics you make decisions and choices.

Mmhmm, and some people make those choices based on their hatred of other races. Durry could have complained that cities were becoming more and more populated by immigrants, but he didn't. He said visible minorities. That applies to immigrants only when those immigrants are not European and it applies to native-born Canadians of non-European backgrounds, people whose families could have been in Canada for a hundred years. By saying visible minorities, Durry exposed his real motivation. It's not immigration. It's race. And as all racists are cowards, he ran away when exposed.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Mmhmm, and some people make those choices based on their hatred of other races. Durry could have complained that cities were becoming more and more populated by immigrants, but he didn't. He said visible minorities. That applies to immigrants only when those immigrants are not European and it applies to native-born Canadians of non-European backgrounds, people whose families could have been in Canada for a hundred years. By saying visible minorities, Durry exposed his real motivation. It's not immigration. It's race. And as all racists are cowards, he ran away when exposed.

Ah yes, the code. When someone says this, it means that. You don't have to like everybody, can we end the happytalk about Caanda;s problems? Durry and you wiish to suppress discussion of a topic that requires rational discussion.

Visible minorities cost money, you can be against people who use up tax money, after all, it's our money. Mexicans going to the USA cost nothing, yet they come in droves, and we must pay for Asians and Africans who come to Canada? Why? When my dad and other Europeans came in the 1950s and 1960s they got nothing from the govt. I don't want any more money spent on settling immigrants.

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Immigrants who sponsor their parents so the kids can be taken care of, and the seniors get thousands of tax dollars of support per year, this is govt paid daycare by the back door. And only immigrants can get it. Doesn't seem very fair to me.