Casey Anthony trial

[Ariadne]

When mommy researches "how to make chloroform", her toddler disappears, there is evidence on the car trunk liner of decomposition & chloroform and the child is found bagged in the blanket and laundry bag from her bedroom, what should we assume ... that the grandmother researched chloroform even though she perjured herself, the grandfather staged an accidental drowning to appear as a murder, and the water meter reader had something to do with where the body was found?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

How about telling us : WHAT KIND OF JUSTICE SYSTEM would you rather have?? Do you want "reasonable doubt" to be done away with?? Do you want : innocent until proven guilty to be done away with ??

Do you think that she will not be at a huge risk by being free from Jail?? The mob mentality of the american public (media included) is continuing to inflame the situation by belaboring the situation to the point the threats coming at her , her family..... are REAL and warrant attention by the law enforcement folks.

One juror has quit her job, and left the state she was living in. Saying she would never be on a jury again ....and is terrified for HER life.

Now would someone please tell us how THIS AMERICA is so "great"??? If this "america" is not bordering on the barbaric , it has reduced itself to lynch mob justice of the days when witches were burned at the stake.

........NONE OF THIS is behavior of a civilized society. NONE> The people are salivating blood. and have lost all perspective.

This is an example of the fact that the US is one of the most UNSAFE nations on the planet. You all gonna tell us , that this kind of behavior is not a form of in-house terrorism??

When mommy researches "how to make chloroform", her toddler disappears, there is evidence on the car trunk liner of decomposition & chloroform and the child is found bagged in the blanket and laundry bag from her bedroom, what should we assume ... that the grandmother researched chloroform even though she perjured herself, the grandfather staged an accidental drowning to appear as a murder, and the water meter reader had something to do with where the body was found?

We should NOT ASSUME anything. We have to look at the EVIDENCE and PROOF as objectively as possible.

( in this case.......all objectivity has been lost and pitch forks for revenge have moved in.)

 

[Ariadne]

If I were in a position to have a say, I would want the jury to be educated ... mandatory one day educational workshop for all those selected for jury duty. I would want the jury to understand the nature of circumstantial evidence, and to set aside all the make-believe preconceptions they gained from watching CSI TV. I would want the jury to understand that they are not determining punishment, but determining guilt. I want the jury to understand how to separate opening statements and defence arm-waving from facts ... and most of all, I'm thankful that in Canada no investigative information can be released pre-trial ... and I would like to see that law implemented in Florida ... but that's never going to happen with the Sunshine Laws.

Regarding Casey Anthony, I hope she is shunned in the same way as Karla Homolka. I hope that every time she arrives somewhere, the public announces where she is and makes her life more difficult. I sure hope that no one is going to hand her a cool million to spread more lies.

Personally, I'm not the least bit concerned about what happens to Anthony next ... I rather hope that no one hires her, no educational institution wants her (same as what happened to Joran van der Sloot), every new friend she makes is intent on betrayal and that she has a miserable life.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

If I were in a position to have a say, I would want the jury to be educated ... mandatory one day educational workshop for all those selected for jury duty. I would want the jury to understand the nature of circumstantial evidence, and to set aside all the make-believe preconceptions they gained from watching CSI TV. I would want the jury to understand that they are not determining punishment, but determining guilt. I want the jury to understand how to separate opening statements and defence arm-waving from facts ... and most of all, I'm thankful that in Canada no investigative information can be released pre-trial ... and I would like to see that law implemented in Florida ... but that's never going to happen with the Sunshine Laws.

Regarding Casey Anthony, I hope she is shunned in the same way as Karla Homolka. I hope that every time she arrives somewhere, the public announces where she is and makes her life more difficult. I sure hope that no one is going to hand her a cool million to spread more lies.

Personally, I'm not the least bit concerned about what happens to Anthony next ... I rather hope that no one hires her, no educational institution wants her (same as what happened to Joran van der Sloot), every new friend she makes is intent on betrayal and that she has a miserable life.

oh she is shunned. BIG TIME. She is going to have to change her appearance completely.........just to walk the streets. and the risk on her life will follow her like a shadow. american justice. does not end with the verdict in some cases. This is one of them. If someone kills her.........the nation will rejoice. and THAT is barbarism at its worst.

 

[Ariadne]

oh she is shunned. BIG TIME. She is going to have to change her appearance completely.........just to walk the streets. and the risk on her life will follow her like a shadow. american justice. does not end with the verdict in some cases. This is one of them. If someone kills her.........the nation will rejoice. and THAT is barbarism at its worst.

Good - she should be shunned! Still, there's not much she can do to change her appearance. She can cut and dye her hair, but she'll own that skinny, angry face until the day she dies. A nose job would be a good idea, but she might end up with one of those horrible nasal voices like so many that have nose jobs. If someone kills her, that person can hire Jose Baez and get away with murder too - that seems to be the justice that is practiced in Florida.

 

[Kreskin]

all of the above are circumstantial. The tape is not PROOF of murder. let alone pre-meditated homicide.

the chloroform , and the duct tape are ASSUMED to be the cause of death. The cause of death is KEY in a homicide case. There was insuffient hard evidence about the CAUSE OF DEATH........let alone WHO was involved. No finger prints , no complete autopsy possible .

The fact she did not report the child "missing" is bad.......but not hard evidence of homicide.

They did prove by default that she is a totally irresponsible, manipulative, lying and self centered person. But none of that adds up to pre-meditated murder.

The REASONABLE DOUBT from the lack of hard evidence is the safety valve ....in the justice system. Otherwise folks could weave all kinds of possibilities and yet not be right.

Most cases are circumstantial. The Scott Peterson trial was decisioned on far less evidence, but it didn't take much thinking to connect the dots. When a mother spends her time trying to send investigators to fictitious kidnappers while her daughter is dead in a swamp decomposing with the same tape wrapped around her skull as that found where her family lives, what is the first clue? Of course your not going to find the precise method of killing on a skeleton unless the skeleton has broken bones or evidence of blunt objects bashing the skull. If it did then you might have a reason to discredit the use of chloroform and asphyxiation with tape.

 

[JLM]

Most cases are circumstantial. The Scott Peterson trial was decisioned on far less evidence, but it didn't take much thinking to connect the dots. When a mother spends her time trying to send investigators to fictitious kidnappers while her daughter is dead in a swamp decomposing with the same tape wrapped around her skull as that found where her family lives, what is the first clue? Of course your not going to find the precise method of killing on a skeleton unless the skeleton has broken bones or evidence of blunt objects bashing the skull. If it did then you might have a reason to discredit the use of chloroform and asphyxiation with tape.

What did Scott in was the bodies turned up at the exact spot Scott claimed he was fishing, pretty damning evidence I'd say! :smile:

 

[Ariadne]

Another recent case is that of Brad Cooper. His wife was found near a drainage ditch, decomposing in the North Carolina summer sun, a few days after she "went for a run". Brad's alibi for the morning was that he bought juice for the children, spoke on his cell phone to his wife on the house phone, he returned home, his wife went for a run and he was at home looking after the children for the remainder of the day ... and his wife never returned home. There were questions about how she died and when she died, even though it was only a few days after she was last seen. Nothing was certain. After an 8 week trial, he was convicted of first degree murder. The theory that had to be believed for the conviction was that he staged the phone call from the house phone to his cell phone, and that she was already lying near the drainage ditch before he bought juice.

If time and manner of death were required for a conviction, Brad Cooper would not be serving a life sentence for his wife's murder.

 

[EagleSmack]

Anthony does not have a skin condition ... if she did, her face would look the same. What she has is uncleanliness and neglect when it comes to personal hygiene.

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Man! I was in the field in unsanitary conditions and without showering for weeks! My back NEVER looked like that. That made me gag.

 

[Ariadne]

Man! I was in the field in unsanitary conditions and without showering for weeks! My back NEVER looked like that. That made me gag.

It's rather disgusting, especially for someone that was recently offered $1 million to star in a porn film ... but that offer was removed for reasons other than her physical appearance. It looks to me like she gets itchy spots and picks at herself until she bleeds.

 

[karrie]

I find it odd that anyone would give her so much space in their minds as to be worrying about her skin and why it does or doesn't look the way it does.

 

[EagleSmack]

I find it odd that anyone would give her so much space in their minds as to be worrying about her skin and why it does or doesn't look the way it does.

The pic just shocked me! Sorry... I'll get back on track.

 

[Ariadne]

The photo shows the "Bella Vita" tattoo that Ms Anthony got shortly after murdering her daughter. The tattoo artist asked where Caylee was when she got the tattoo and Ms Anthony acted as though everything was fine, saying that she'd bring her daughter in during the next visit. I must be old fashioned, because I would never take a 2.5 year old child into a tattoo parlour and expect her to wait while mom got a tattoo.

 

[Mowich]

Seems that an important question is : How long is the media going to keep going over this ad nauseum and only adding to her celeb. status.

this is gone beyond rediculous. It is not and has not been NEWS for some time now. I guess the constant rehashing is mllking the ratings until something else comes along that can be sensationalized to the same degree.

the media is the third justice system in the US. Guilty until proven innocent is what it goes by.

One can rather safely conclude that the words "fair trial " are just words.

And yet here we are still belaboring the same old topic - the media will carry on as long as there are fools like us who are stupid enough to pay attention. About time we all moved on - soon enough there will be another 'cause' for Nancy Grace and her ilk to grab headlines again.

 

[Ariadne]

I'm curious about how much the state is going to charge her for the investigation of a child that was never missing.

Ms Anthony is going to be served papers tomorrow morning ... she is being sued by Tim Miller of Equisearch, an organization that was asked by the family to come to Florida to search for a child that was never missing. I think his costs were $112,000.

 

[TenPenny]

The photo shows the "Bella Vita" tattoo that Ms Anthony got shortly after murdering her daughter. The tattoo artist asked where Caylee was when she got the tattoo and Ms Anthony acted as though everything was fine, saying that she'd bring her daughter in during the next visit. I must be old fashioned, because I would never take a 2.5 year old child into a tattoo parlour and expect her to wait while mom got a tattoo.

That's nice, but if you read what you wrote, she didn't do that either.

 

[Ariadne]

She told police, her family and her lawyer that her child had been kidnapped by her imaginery nanny. Her family requested that Equisearch look for the missing child.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

I'm curious about how much the state is going to charge her for the investigation of a child that was never missing.

Ms Anthony is going to be served papers tomorrow morning ... she is being sued by Tim Miller of Equisearch, an organization that was asked by the family to come to Florida to search for a child that was never missing. I think his costs were $112,000.

Payback is a bi$ch , ain't it?? I suspect that society will make life so unbearable for her , she will wish she was in the relative "safety " of a prison. The savage response to her and the ruling is at a level of psychological "torture".

And yet here we are still belaboring the same old topic - the media will carry on as long as there are fools like us who are stupid enough to pay attention. About time we all moved on - soon enough there will be another 'cause' for Nancy Grace and her ilk to grab headlines again.

Of course that is very true. and it is rather easy for anyone to fall into that trap. Unfortunately. . The case itself is one thing....but the people's response to it is another ......from a psycho -social point of view.

 

[karrie]

Payback is a bi$ch , ain't it?? I suspect that society will make life so unbearable for her , she will wish she was in the relative "safety " of a prison. The savage response to her and the ruling is at a level of psychological "torture".



Of course that is very true. and it is rather easy for anyone to fall into that trap. Unfortunately. . The case itself is one thing....but the people's response to it is another ......from a psycho -social point of view.

people's reactions to the case are completely in line with the value we as a society put on our children. There are few things that enrage as much as the discarding of a child.

 

[EagleSmack]

Payback is a bi$ch , ain't it?? I suspect that society will make life so unbearable for her , she will wish she was in the relative "safety " of a prison. The savage response to her and the ruling is at a level of psychological "torture".
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Poor Casey. :roll

(How do you make a rolling eye thing again?)