Casey Anthony trial

[Ocean Breeze]

Seems that an important question is : How long is the media going to keep going over this ad nauseum and only adding to her celeb. status.

this is gone beyond rediculous. It is not and has not been NEWS for some time now. I guess the constant rehashing is mllking the ratings until something else comes along that can be sensationalized to the same degree.

the media is the third justice system in the US. Guilty until proven innocent is what it goes by.

One can rather safely conclude that the words "fair trial " are just words.

 

[Ariadne]

Seems that an important question is : How long is the media going to keep going over this ad nauseum and only adding to her celeb. status.

this is gone beyond rediculous. It is not and has not been NEWS for some time now. I guess the constant rehashing is mllking the ratings until something else comes along that can be sensationalized to the same degree.

the media is the third justice system in the US. Guilty until proven innocent is what it goes by.

One can rather safely conclude that the words "fair trial " are just words.

Isn't it over? She'll be released tomorrow, although the media is saying it's the 17th. She'll be hidden away by her lawyers until the can sell her story to some sucker.

I guess there's still the deposition on July 19 regarding her false allegations against the Zanny woman. The prosecution will submit the bill for investigating someone that wasn't missing from June - Dec at the end of July.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

No 25 year old has skin like that unless they don't know how to use soap and water. She doesn't look after herself, and there's no doubt she didn't look after her daughter. It looks like she's the kind of person that sits and picks at herself for hours.

She's a festering disease inside and out.

Well, you obviously have NOT seen any skin conditions on people of all ages. Just ask your local dermatologist. It is simply WRONG to make assumptions on some photos. Sorry, but one cannot lose objectivity here as then one is simply part of the wolf pack vigilante lynch mob . We HAVE to guard our CIVILITY as it does not take much to lose it and go completely neanderthal.

 

[TenPenny]

Well, you obviously have NOT seen any skin conditions on people of all ages. Just ask your local dermatologist. It is simply WRONG to make assumptions on some photos. Sorry, but one cannot lose objectivity here as then one is simply part of the wolf pack vigilante lynch mob . We HAVE to guard our CIVILITY as it does not take much to lose it and go completely neanderthal.

But, bad skin is proof of her being a murderer! It's a fact!

 

[Ariadne]

Anthony does not have a skin condition ... if she did, her face would look the same. What she has is uncleanliness and neglect when it comes to personal hygiene.

But, bad skin is proof of her being a murderer! It's a fact!

What it demonstrates is that she doesn't look after herself, and it reinforces the fact that she didn't look after her daughter.

 

[TenPenny]

Anthony does not have a skin condition ... if she did, her face would look the same. What she has is uncleanliness and neglect when it comes to personal hygiene.



What it demonstrates is that she doesn't look after herself, and it reinforces the fact that she didn't look after her daughter.

No, it shows that she doesn't look after herself.

It says nothing about her care for her daughter. And it has nothing to do with whether she murdered the kid or not.

I have a car. Does that mean I don't like horses?
Oh, look, my neighbor has a television. He must hate going to the movies. Or maybe, he must be deaf.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

But, bad skin is proof of her being a murderer! It's a fact!

 

[Ariadne]

Okay ... let's look at what a hit she'd be in a porn flick ... no amount of plastic surgery or airbrushing could make that film turn a profit.

The fact that she murdered her daughter is actually sufficient to demonstrate that she didn't look after her daughter.

 

[Kreskin]

Okay ... let's look at what a hit she'd be in a porn flick ... no amount of plastic surgery or airbrushing could make that film turn a profit.

The fact that she murdered her daughter is actually sufficient to demonstrate that she didn't look after her daughter.

Some even call murder, child abuse. But that's a tough one to get past 12 jurors, especially those who announce they can't pass judgement on anyone.

 

[TenPenny]

Okay ... let's look at what a hit she'd be in a porn flick ... no amount of plastic surgery or airbrushing could make that film turn a profit.

The fact that she murdered her daughter is actually sufficient to demonstrate that she didn't look after her daughter.

Yes, and that fact has been proven in a court of law, has it?

You need to let go of this anger you've got, the angry gonna eat you up.

 

[Ariadne]

There's no anger associated with a faulty justice system in a foreign country ... we're very familiar with that problem. The jury has said that they do not believe she was innocent, but they couldn't figure out how she died. They dismissed the circumstantial evidence and voila ... no ability to convict.

What's actually quite amusing is that the nasty, murdering woman with hygiene problems is a candidate for porn ... what kinda guys are into that?

 

[TenPenny]

There's no anger associated with a faulty justice system in a foreign country ... we're very familiar with that problem. The jury has said that they do not believe she was innocent, but they couldn't figure out how she died. They dismissed the circumstantial evidence and voila ... no ability to convict.

What's actually quite amusing is that the nasty, murdering woman with hygiene problems is a candidate for porn ... what kinda guys are into that?

Probably many of the same people (not just guys) who condemn her as a murderess.

 

[Ariadne]

Probably many of the same people (not just guys) who condemn her as a murderess.

I think she murdered her daughter, but a million $ would not be enough for me to watch her in a porn flick - I'd be scarred for life!

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Okay ... let's look at what a hit she'd be in a porn flick ... no amount of plastic surgery or airbrushing could make that film turn a profit.

The fact that she murdered her daughter is actually sufficient to demonstrate that she didn't look after her daughter.

You are making the same ASSUMPTIONS that the media made . and drawling the same conclusions.

You don't know for a FACT........that she actively killed the child. There is not enough evidence to prove. No. How it happened, no where it happened, no witnesses to verify the identity of the killer.........IF she was killed. What if it really was neglegent homicide......which is what I suspect it is. She probably could not get a baby sitter so in her glorious decision making .....thought she would put the kid in the trunk of her car........sedate her with the choroform or ?? and when the child was asleep put some duct tape over her mouth to prevent her from screeming should she wake up before Casey returned to the car. this is the only "theory" that makes sense. IF she had premeditated the death...... she would have been more aggressive in her kill tactic. It is plausible that Caylee suffocated ...during her sleep. (overdose of the chloroform ?? over zealous application of the duct tape?? ) IF she had woken up........she might have tried to tear the duct tape from her mouth. There was no evidence of her hands and legs being bound by either duct tape, or rope or??? (as might have been , had it been truly PREMeditated.

Negligent/? ABSOLUTELY...... and essentially that was proven. The big mistake here was made by the prosecution by over reaching the charges and potential penalty. They should have gone for negligent manslaughter, or negligent homide...... with possible life in prison......... and they would have won hands down.

about the juror not wanting to "judge". She is talking about judgement that would lead to the death penalty. She was not talking about her personal feeling . You can't take all these comments literally or at face value.

 

[Ariadne]

You are making the same ASSUMPTIONS that the media made . and drawling the same conclusions.

You don't know for a FACT........that she actively killed the child. There is not enough evidence to prove. No. How it happened, no where it happened, no witnesses to verify the identity of the killer.........IF she was killed. What if it really was neglegent homicide......which is what I suspect it is. She probably could not get a baby sitter so in her glorious decision making .....thought she would put the kid in the trunk of her car........sedate her with the choroform or ?? and when the child was asleep put some duct tape over her mouth to prevent her from screeming should she wake up before Casey returned to the car. this is the only "theory" that makes sense. IF she had premeditated the death...... she would have been more aggressive in her kill tactic. It is plausible that Caylee suffocated ...during her sleep. (overdose of the chloroform ?? over zealous application of the duct tape?? ) IF she had woken up........she might have tried to tear the duct tape from her mouth. There was no evidence of her hands and legs being bound by either duct tape, or rope or??? (as might have been , had it been truly PREMeditated.

Negligent/? ABSOLUTELY...... and essentially that was proven. The big mistake here was made by the prosecution by over reaching the charges and potential penalty. They should have gone for negligent manslaughter, or negligent homide...... with possible life in prison......... and they would have won hands down.

about the juror not wanting to "judge". She is talking about judgement that would lead to the death penalty. She was not talking about her personal feeling . You can't take all these comments literally or at face value.

In my opinion, the jury made the mistake of thinking that it was their job to figure out exactly how Caylee died, and that they needed this information in order to assign punishment. That is based directly on the information provided by one of the jurors. Both of those points were beyond the scope of what the jury was tasked to do. Therefore, it is my belief that the jury was confused, thus arriving at an incorrect verdict. Are you perhaps making the same mistake as the jury and assuming that without direct evidence demonstrating how and when the child died, the murderer should go free?

 

[TenPenny]

In my opinion, the jury made the mistake of thinking that it was their job to figure out exactly how Caylee died, and that they needed this information in order to assign punishment.

The jury's job was to decide if she was proven guilty without any doubt.
Obviously, the prosecution left doubt.

The jury did what it was supposed to do.

 

[Ariadne]

Actually, the jury is not supposed to consider punishment ... that is up to the judge. As far as how and when exactly someone died, that is also not the task. They are tasked to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to prove that the child was murdered by the accused, or whether there was reasonable doubt that the accused murdered her child. The jury has stated that they do not believe the accused is innocent ... that means they believed the accused was guilty ... but they were hung up on how the child died even though the child had duct tape on her face. They were also hung up on when the child died even though the exact time of death is not required in order to determine whether it is reasonable to believe that the accused alone had the means and opportunity to murder her child. The jury has also stated that they were skeptical of the testimony of George Anthony, but his testimony was not critical to the evidence of murder. He was only one of many witnesses that smelled decomposition in the vehicle.

 

[Kreskin]

Chloroform in car and multiple internet searches on killing that includes how to's with chloroform. Dead body smell in her car. Tape from her home wrapped around kids face. She fails to report the kid missing and then misleads investigators for 6 months. Her defense is yet another lie that doesn't pass the laugh test.

What evidence was missing?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Chloroform in car and multiple internet searches on killing that includes how to's with chloroform. Dead body smell in her car. Tape from her home wrapped around kids face. She fails to report the kid missing and then misleads investigators for 6 months. Her defense is yet another lie that doesn't pass the laugh test.

What evidence was missing?

all of the above are circumstantial. The tape is not PROOF of murder. let alone pre-meditated homicide.

the chloroform , and the duct tape are ASSUMED to be the cause of death. The cause of death is KEY in a homicide case. There was insuffient hard evidence about the CAUSE OF DEATH........let alone WHO was involved. No finger prints , no complete autopsy possible .

The fact she did not report the child "missing" is bad.......but not hard evidence of homicide.

They did prove by default that she is a totally irresponsible, manipulative, lying and self centered person. But none of that adds up to pre-meditated murder.

The REASONABLE DOUBT from the lack of hard evidence is the safety valve ....in the justice system. Otherwise folks could weave all kinds of possibilities and yet not be right.

 

[JLM]

all of the above are circumstantial. The tape is not PROOF of murder. let alone pre-meditated homicide.

the chloroform , and the duct tape are ASSUMED to be the cause of death. The cause of death is KEY in a homicide case. There was insuffient hard evidence about the CAUSE OF DEATH........let alone WHO was involved. No finger prints , no complete autopsy possible .

The fact she did not report the child "missing" is bad.......but not hard evidence of homicide.

They did prove by default that she is a totally irresponsible, manipulative, lying and self centered person. But none of that adds up to pre-meditated murder.

The REASONABLE DOUBT from the lack of hard evidence is the safety valve ....in the justice system. Otherwise folks could weave all kinds of possibilities and yet not be right.

I think that case should be a classic for "trial by water" or "trial by fire".............................:lol:

Chloroform in car and multiple internet searches on killing that includes how to's with chloroform. Dead body smell in her car. Tape from her home wrapped around kids face. She fails to report the kid missing and then misleads investigators for 6 months. Her defense is yet another lie that doesn't pass the laugh test.

What evidence was missing?

They need one more law where it's illegal to be a b*tch punishable by 50 years in jail............................:lol: