Obama urges future Palestinian state be based on '67 borders

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''anti-semitism''

That's hatred for Arabs since they are Semites. Kinda sad that this society tolerates hatred for Muslims and Arabs.


''why am I not surprised you frequent "Storm Front"?''

That's how I get to learn where certain Pharisaic bigots get their ideas.
 

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That's how I get to learn where certain Pharisaic bigots get their ideas.
Kinda like Matthew 23 where Jesus tells them the deal with the Jews and God is off if they keep ****ing with Mosaic law?


Matthew 23

A Warning Against Hypocrisy

1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.
8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. 11 The greatest among you will be your servant. 12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted. Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees

13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] [b]
15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.
23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!
33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation. 37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’[c]
 

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As far as I'm concerned, Canada's stance ought to be that the Israeli-Palestinian issue is a foreign matter and so will leave it to the Isralis and Palestinians to sort it out among themselves and should they need international intervention, then Canada would jsut defer to international law and leave it at that.


That would come back to bite us in the a$$ some day, fer sure!

JMO
 

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Unlike voting 'yes' to UN 181 when we (or the other 32 Nations) voted for the overrun of a group of people who had said they preferred not to be invaded at all. That move has already bitten us in the ass, several times, and what have we learned from that?
 

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Finklestein is despicable, a liar, an idiot, and in my humble opinion, badly in need of psychological assessment.

He might be a Jew, but much of what he claims about Operation Cast Lead and the flotilla incident are demonstrably untrue.

If this idiot told me water was wet.....I'd have to check......



You're describing yourself for the most part.
 

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You are definitely in need of psychology assessment, you are a liar and what you argue about the flotilla event and operation cast lead have been explicitly false
Just facts, no insult.
 

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You are definitely in need of psychology assessment, you are a liar and what you argue about the flotilla event and operation cast lead have been explicitly false
Just facts, no insult.

Oh yeah??? LOL

Here are the FACTS:.

I quote HAMAS Interior Minister Fathi Hammad

Talking about losses in the war, Hammad confirmed significant personnel losses in Hamas' military wings for the first time. He said, "On the first day of the war, Israel targeted police stations and 250 martyrs who were part of Hamas and the various factions fell." He added that, "about 200 to 300 were killed from the Qassam Brigades, as well as 150 security personnel."

So, Israel destroyed the Hamas military wing, with minimal civilian casualties......

Even Goldstone retracted his original serious attacks on Israel.

No foul.

As for the flotilla, the films, the facts, and the eye-witness accounts show Israeli troops carrying out a perfectly legal enforcement of a perfectly legal blockade were attacked, and defended themselves.

Even the Turkish journalist aboard agrees.

You are SO wrong!
 

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The latest blather about Israeli borders by 0bama is nothing more than a claim to replace Jimmy Carter as the worst president in United States history.

He has already done that domestically, why not strive for it internationally?
 

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The latest blather about Israeli borders by 0bama is nothing more than a claim to replace Jimmy Carter as the worst president in United States history.

He has already done that domestically, why not strive for it internationally?

Didn't you hear?

Canadian conservatives support the same borders along with the rest of the world.
 

CUBert

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As for the flotilla, the films, the facts, and the eye-witness accounts show Israeli troops carrying out a perfectly legal enforcement of a perfectly legal blockade were attacked, and defended themselves.

Even the Turkish journalist aboard agrees.

You are SO wrong!

Blatant lie, what's your agenda ?

The latest blather about Israeli borders by 0bama is nothing more than a claim to replace Jimmy Carter as the worst president in United States history.

He has already done that domestically, why not strive for it internationally?

Jimmy Carter worse than human garbage like George W Bush, Reagan and Nixon? I don't think so..
 

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Blatant lie, what's your agenda ?

No agenda, but pardon me if I like FACTS.

Jimmy Carter worse than human garbage like George W Bush and Nixon? I don't think so..

Jimmy Carter defined human garbage. While in office, with the highest 'misery index' (A term invented by obvious necessity during his regime) and especially out of office. More especially pretending to care about the poor, by posing with swinging hammers on Habitat for Humanity sites. This I know, because I met the bastard. And even more especially when he was abroad, bad-mouthing his country.

But he is by surpassed by 0bama in every respect.
 

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As for the flotilla, the films, the facts, and the eye-witness accounts show Israeli troops carrying out a perfectly legal enforcement of a perfectly legal blockade were attacked, and defended themselves.

Even the Turkish journalist aboard agrees.

You are SO wrong!

To which you replied......

CUBert;1435998 Blatant lie, what's your agenda ?

You really should check your facts before you post.......

Turkish journalist supports IDF flotilla version | Just Journalism

As you know, I was on board the ship. I saw with my own eyes that when the soldiers came on helicopters and started landing on the ship, they did not fire. It wasn’t until the soldiers were met with resistance and realized that some of their friends’ lives were in danger that they began using live ammunition.’

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As for comparative Presidents, Jimmy Carter was a well-meaning moron that did (and is STILL trying to do) extensive harm to US interests in the world. He is simply stupid, and was a VERY poor president.

Georgy....well he was not up to the task quite...

Nixon? Scum.
 

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Your idea of 'badmouthing his country' is pointing out its flaws, particularly the foreign policy.
As far as pretending to care about poor people, who knows what the hell you're talking about and where you get these stupid delusions, obviously too much fox news
I didn't see any other former President going into North Korea to bring back home an American prisoner., had he not the prisoner may have rot in the in the jails of the DPRK .

To which you replied......

You really should check your facts before you post.......

Turkish journalist supports IDF flotilla version | Just Journalism

Huh, interviewed on Israeli channel? What kind of propaganda garbage is this, are you that dense?


As for comparative Presidents, Jimmy Carter was a well-meaning moron that did (and is STILL trying to do) extensive harm to US interests in the world. He is simply stupid, and was a VERY poor president.

Hmm yes America's interests, pillaging and raping third world countries...Good if he's trying to put an end to that....
 

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Your idea of 'badmouthing his country' is pointing out its flaws, particularly the foreign policy.
As far as pretending to care about poor people, who knows what the hell you're talking about and where you get these stupid delusions, obviously too much fox news
I didn't see any other former President going into North Korea to bring back home an American prisoner., had he not the prisoner may have rot in the in the jails of the DPRK .

CUBert, I know doing charity work is an alien concept to your world, but I have done it every year for two weeks of my six weeks vacation time from 1993 to 2007.

During this time I DID meet the phony Carter who showed up for no more than five hammer swings on every site where I and other what you would call Tea Partiers put in eight hours. I have pictures to show, as well as I have pictures to show me with Ed Schreyer at Canadian Habitat for Humanity sites. But I don't think you even know who Ed Schreyer is or was.
 

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LOL, Carter is a busy man, you think he has time to bang hammers for 8 hours on every Habitat for Humanity site? Be real.

You're an Ed Schreyer supporter? I didn't think crazy fox news people would approve of anyone in Trudeau's cabinet
 

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Huh, interviewed on Israeli channel? What kind of propaganda garbage is this, are you that dense?

....

Relative to YOU, I'm a fricking genius.

Of course, so is my dog.....

and he's been dead for five years.

The guy wrote a book, fer cryin' out loud.....which has been extensively reviewed.

Bloodstained Mavi Marmara by ?efik Dinç | Israel Right Side News

Turkish journalist ?efik Dinç no shots were fired from the Israel | NowPublic News Coverage

How about in Turkish???

Kanlý Mavi Marmara / M. Þefik Dinç - Hürriyet Kitap/CD

Don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself?

LOL, Carter is a busy man, you think he has time to bang hammers for 8 hours on every Habitat for Humanity site? Be real.

You're an Ed Schreyer supporter? I didn't think crazy fox news people would approve of anyone in Trudeau's cabinet

Speaking of which......

Ed Schreyer was NDP, he was never in Trudeau's cabinet..........

The Governer-General is the PM's SUPERIOR.........if that is what you were talking about.