Guess the O.P. was all tongue in cheek.
Here's the kicker JLM... The individual that wrote the article that the OP refers too isn't tongue-in-cheek. This rant is what they call fact.
Guess the O.P. was all tongue in cheek.
He discusses the “types” of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.
So basically if a gal hits on me in a bar and I tell her she's not my type I should be labeled a rape supporter?
yes. you haven't shown shame at having a penis, and you made a woman feel less than perfect. You're evil.
I think it would be an interesting thread, if someone was to define what 'pretty powerful caveman hormones' means.![]()
Its natural women have no idea how much aggressive impulses men need to manage everyday.
So if the male was also under age at the same time, or equally high, allowed to have himself restrained at any time, became unconscious, or coerced himself..... it's still rape?A Man Is a Rape-Supporter If…. | Eve Bit First
A man is a rape-supporter if…
- He has ever sexually engaged with any woman while she was underage, drunk, high, physically restrained, unconscious, or subjected to psychological, physical, economic, or emotional coercion.
So if one supports the currently laws against Sexual Assault, they still support people being sexually assaulted? Even if you both consent to having sexual relations, it's still deemed sexual assault / rape?? :roll: What a fk'n maroon.
- He defends the current legal definition of rape and/or opposes making consent a defense.
Depends on the evidence and situation.... there have been many cases where the above was actually true. Not all are, but not all who file charges of sexual assault are true victims and nothing ever really happened.
- He has accused a rape victim of having “buyer’s remorse” or wanting to get money from the man.
That I could say I agree with, in general terms.
- He has blamed a woman for “putting herself in a situation” where she “could be” attacked.
That's not sexual assault.... holy sh*t whoever wrote this is a true dolt.
- He has procured a prostitute.
What about male prostitution? Oh wait, let me guess, that doesn't count..... let me also guess that many men and women have no choice in going into pornography or prostitution, regardless of their personal reasons..... talk about ignorant.
- He characterizes prostitution as a “legitimate” “job” “choice” or defends men who purchase prostitutes.
to carry on or conduct (business, negotiations, activities, etc.) to a conclusion or settlement.
- He has ever revealed he conceives of sex as fundamentally transactional.
Oh well holy hell Batman, you better lock up 3/4's of the friggin male population and probably about the same amount of women who have male strippers come along for one of their little parties before their wedding, among other situations.
- He has gone to a strip club.
The same thing was originally said about Birth Control when it first came out..... and what does sexual availability or activity have to do with sexual assault?
- He is anti-abortion.
- He is pro-”choice” because he believes abortion access will make women more sexually available.
WTF does that even mean? Who needs to defend themselves when they talk about porn and have to cite "Freedom of Speech?" :roll:
- He frames discussions of pornography in terms of “freedom of speech.”
As opposed to what? Just men?
- He watches pornography in which women are depicted.
Or regardless if it's the woman doing the dominating? Apparently even if women are not present in the video or image and has no relation to females at all, it's still sexual assault and the viewer is still "A Rape Supporter!"
- He watches any pornography in which sexual acts are depicted as a struggle for power or domination, regardless of whether women are present.
For "Some" women who do this, they have openly admitted to these being their reasons..... it's no different then men dressing up, shaving or going to the gym.
- He characterizes the self-sexualizing behavior of some women, such as wearing make-up or high heels, as evidence of women’s desire to “get” a man.
I don't laugh at those kinds of jokes and usually note to the joker that I'm not amused... but if it's based on a hypothetical situation or joke that doesn't relate to any specific person.... and someone laughs..... that's a bit of a stretch to call them a "Rape Supporter"
- He tells or laughs at jokes involving women being attacked, sexually “hoodwinked,” or sexually harassed.
Again.... what about men who are depicted in similar fashion towards women?
- He expresses enjoyment of movies/musicals/TV shows/plays in which women are sexually demeaned or presented as sexual objects
Again..... what about men in similar situations?
- He mocks women who complain about sexual attacks, sexual harassment, street cat-calls, media depictions of women, or other forms of sexual objectification.
If a women wishes to be "Liberated" (quite a subjective term really) then isn't that their business and if one wishes to support their wishes, regardless of their gender..... how is that wrong?
- He supports sexual “liberation” and claims women would have more sex with (more) men if society did not “inhibit” them.
That's more an ignorant opinion then any means of evidence that they support women being sexually assaulted.
- He states or implies that women who do not want to have sex with men are “inhibited,” “prudes,” “stuck-up,” “man-haters,” or psychologically ill.
Which could be attributed to sexism, not sexual assault.
- He argues that certain male behaviors towards women are “cultural” and therefore not legitimate subjects of feminist attention.
Some women do the exact same thing..... because there are women and men who think about sex in very much the same way.
- He ever subordinates the interests of women in a given population to the interests of the men in that population, or proceeds in discussions as if the interests of the women are the same as the interests of the men.
Again, sexism.... not directly related to Sexual Assault.
- He promotes religious or philosophical views in which a woman’s physical/psychological/emotional/sexual well-being is subordinated to a man’s.
Ignorant, rude, possibly sexist.... but not directly related to Sexual Assault.
- He describes female anatomy in terms of penetration, or uses terms referencing the supposed “emptiness” of female anatomy when describing women.
If two adults consent with one another (be male/female, female/female or male/male, or otherwise) to such actions, then it's not sexual assault...... that's what makes the difference between sex and sexual assault..... CONSENT!
- He defends the physical abuse of women on the grounds of “consent.”
Pedophilia or Statutory Rape in regards to sexual abuse.... and while I don't agree with the current trends of "Sexualization" of minors that are present in our society.... it's been happening for decades by our media, marketing, celebrities, music, and culture in general. They see what adults do and wish to emulate..... that includes males as well.
- He defends the sexualization or sexual abuse of minor females on the grounds of “consent” or “willingness.”
Again, while perhaps sexist, how does that relate to sexual assault or "Rape?"
- He promotes the idea that women as a class are happier or more fulfilled if they have children, or that they “should” have children.
Again, Sexists if anything, but that is all...... it would seem whoever wrote this crap have that view..... where women don't have sexual needs, would never on their own wish to "Sexualize" themselves, or look attractive, or want to have sex, or anything else listed above.
- He argues that people (or just “men”) have sexual “needs.”
What are you? Fk'n High?? It's a subjective personal opinion & preference..... both males and females do this all the damn time, and I bet $20 the tool who wrote this crap or believes this crap has their own opinions & preferences towards the gender they find attractive.
- He discusses the “types” of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.
*Just shakes his head*
- He sexually objectifies lesbians or lesbian sexual activity.
- He defends these actions by saying that some women also engage in them.
Yeah, that's pretty much the author's position. That's a very inclusive list, I can only conclude she thinks all men support rape, which is obvious nonsense. There are both male and female chauvinist pigs. I have no patience with either of them.
No... she points out in further writings that she does know some men who are ashamed to be men. Those men are cool in her books.
How do you figure?
I'll look into it.
Its natural women have no idea how much aggressive impulses men need to manage everyday. Normally men don't talk about it, no one likes to admit to everyone they struggle with unacceptable thoughts everyday. But the truth is we do, and I think most men manage them very well.
This thread's subject is literally a failure by a women to understand how men are different, and appreciate the men that do control themselves very well.
After reading it I certainly lost all respect for her intelligence, and it slightly put into question why I bother so hard to be respectful, and fight my instinct to try and dominate everything in my environment.
Men are as dangerous as any other aggressive animals on earth.
Every day?
You have to manage aggressive impulses every day?
I think you need some help. Or to go masturbate. Or something.
By the way, I might have over-looked it, but Where's CUBert's response or personal opinion on what he posted?
Does he support this crap or just decided to post it for sh*ts & giggles?
I support the rape of CUBert.
:?D
I think the way society giggles about the rape of men is ten times more worrisome than most of what's on her list.
I'd say it's about equal in my view.... but my point in my last post was a sarcastic view at how to this original author of what was posted would probably find the sexual assault of males as irrelevant and they probably had it coming to them.
Oh by the way, were you serious about sarcastic comments being coloured purple? I must have missed that meeting.
Every day?
You have to manage aggressive impulses every day?
I think you need some help. Or to go masturbate. Or something.
it was a long while back, in the days of hermanntrude. Because the mods would write in green, we were discussing what colour would suit sarcasm. There are a few that still remember it and will post in purple while being sarcastic. It's even become a household thing here. I'll say something and hubby will ask... "you said that in purple didn't you?"
"you said that in purple didn't you?" - that's funny.
As for the way societies giggles about the rape of men (not children) it might be funny because oh I don't know it's funny. lol Sorry, I apologize to all the men here who were raped as adults.
The day I can't manage my aggression I'll seek help.
Now run along back to your wife little fellow before she cheats
on you with a real man.
Usually when that happens, it's too late to seek help and someone's laying at your feet with a hatchet lodged into their skull.
Conservative, Liberal and NDP men are douche bags. Anarchist men are cool. We don't believe in dominating anybody or anything. (purple afterthought)Yep, his post is just more proof that he (and all men for that matter) are d-bags.
Thats one of my very good reason I try to be fair and respectful to everyone.
So we are drinking, you talk all night about how you are going to kill yourself. Well you pass out. I then kill you. Is that murder, assisted suicide or a friend just helping someone on their way.
Consent was given many times now was it not?