NATO Air Strike Kills 12 Children in Afghanistan
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Or when a bunch of machete weilding thugs in Rwanda sent someones PEACEKEEPING army to the fringe.
Weren't you in charge?
Excuses excuses.
Hurts doesn't it.
Yet another example of your hypocrisy.
Your such a joke. Comparing a small peacekeeping force with direct orders not to engage to a full blown invasion and war in Vietnam shows just how mentally challenged you are. With the entire weight of the US military brought to bear you got your ass handed to you on a platter by the VC. You could do everything you wanted and did ...napalm, agent orange, white phosphorus and a million troops. We on the other hand weren't even allowed to fire a round and had a handful of troops.
Its one thing to fail with orders not to fight and hardly any troops, its another thing completely to fail like the US has in Vietnam and Afghanistan and Iraq.
You sounded pretty positive about that. :lol: That is also why there is a Canada.
Actually that is not entirely correct. It was the politicians who F'd up in regard to the Vietnam War, it is the politicians who F'ing up in regard to Afghanistan and Iraq. Fighting forces had very little to do with it. In fact there was not a battle lost in Vietnam, nor Afghanistan or even Iraq. The outcome of these wars is based on how they are conducted.
The problem soldiers face are a result of pussy politicians who can't make up their mind whether they want to go all in or not. The massacre in Rwanda was a result of a very similar issue where as politicians would not allow their soldiers to do the job required of them to beat the enemy.
That's a tough prospect when your sole purpose is to beat the enemy, but you are being directed by a boss whose only care is about how this will look on CNN or MSNBC.
Thankfully, during the Second World War and Korea the leaders of our nations and even that of the United Nations had a bit of backbone. Too bad, because even our news networks have become nothing more than a gong show pandering to the limp wristed and sponsors rather than reporting the facts. Nato makes a bombing mistake and we will get all the gory details. A bunch of fanatical Muslims burn down Europe, murder people and they censor a cartoon.
NATO Strikes Kill 32 Afghan Civilians and 20 Police
By Jason Ditz
May 29, 2011
NATO air strikes have killed at least 52 Afghans over the past 24 hours, including 32 civilians and 20 members of the police. The deaths came in two strikes, one in the Helmand Province and another in Nuristan.
The Helmand strike, late Saturday, saw NATO attack helicopters destroy a pair of homes, killing 2 women and 12 children. The strikes also wounded six other civilians. Helmand’s governor’s office said the attack came after a nearby US Marine base was struck by insurgents.
The other strike came on Sunday, in the Nuristan Province. Here, US warplanes responded to reports of a battle between insurgents and security forces by opening fire on a group of people they assumed were insurgents. The people turned out to be a group of 18 civilians and 20 police.
The deaths, which Nuristan Governor Jamaluddin Badr termed “friendly fire,” came after the Taliban reportedly ran out of ammunition and fled the clashes in the district. NATO has promised to investigate both series killings.
By Jason Ditz
May 29, 2011
NATO air strikes have killed at least 52 Afghans over the past 24 hours, including 32 civilians and 20 members of the police. The deaths came in two strikes, one in the Helmand Province and another in Nuristan.
The Helmand strike, late Saturday, saw NATO attack helicopters destroy a pair of homes, killing 2 women and 12 children. The strikes also wounded six other civilians. Helmand’s governor’s office said the attack came after a nearby US Marine base was struck by insurgents.
The other strike came on Sunday, in the Nuristan Province. Here, US warplanes responded to reports of a battle between insurgents and security forces by opening fire on a group of people they assumed were insurgents. The people turned out to be a group of 18 civilians and 20 police.
The deaths, which Nuristan Governor Jamaluddin Badr termed “friendly fire,” came after the Taliban reportedly ran out of ammunition and fled the clashes in the district. NATO has promised to investigate both series killings.
Nato issues apology for bungled Afghan airstrike
Nato admitted killing nine civilians in Naw Zad district on Saturday, though Afghan officials had earlier put the death toll at 14, including 12 children.
After the attack, a delegation of villagers carried the bodies of eight children to the provincial governor’s house shouting: “See they aren’t Taliban!”, according to reports.
Airstrikes were called in on the building during the ensuing battle, but “unfortunately, the compound the insurgents purposefully occupied was later discovered to house innocent civilians”.
Nato issues apology for bungled Afghan airstrike - Telegraph
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This is what you get when you just blow up buildings without knowing who's in them.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Nato admitted killing nine civilians in Naw Zad district on Saturday, though Afghan officials had earlier put the death toll at 14, including 12 children.
After the attack, a delegation of villagers carried the bodies of eight children to the provincial governor’s house shouting: “See they aren’t Taliban!”, according to reports.
Airstrikes were called in on the building during the ensuing battle, but “unfortunately, the compound the insurgents purposefully occupied was later discovered to house innocent civilians”.
Nato issues apology for bungled Afghan airstrike - Telegraph
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This is what you get when you just blow up buildings without knowing who's in them.
Stupid is as stupid does.
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Peacekeeping Force. You didn't keep much PEACE did you.
Orders not to engage... excuses excuses. Why did you bother going?
Punked by thugs. Nice job
From the guy that thinks everything is a conspiracy and thinks Socialist Revolutions bring freedom.
YOU were in charge of the whole force. Canadian Lt. General Dallaire was in charge. So who was giving the orders?
Face it... you dropped the ball.
You stepped aside and let genocide happen.
Suck it up and face facts.
The deaths of 800,000 civillians whom you were sent to protect is not a failure?!
Absolutely true, and yes, we failed at that mission, spectacularly.
Are you happy about that? Sure sounds like it.
When you're finished waving your limp penis around, can you go back to the kitchen and make some tea?
No I'm not happy. I just don't like hypocrites and that is all. He wants to insult and run his mouth then he'll get a taste of his own medicine.
Make some tea? lol. Wow...clever.
No we didn't keep the peace. Orders are orders not excuses. I don't know why we bothered to go if we weren't going to do anything. If it was to try and make Canada look good it didn't work.
Punked by politicians and commanders who wouldn't let us fight.
Not everything, just mostly everything that comes from govt.
In Vietnam??? Wow you really are challenged aren't you? Did you even read what you responded to?
Epic failure! If we had sent in the airforce and a bunch more ground troops and been allowed to actually shoot at people it would most likely have a different result but we didn't and couldn't so yes, FAIL.
I see the war mongers have done an excellent job of deflecting away from the topic of the thread. Next to nothing in response to Nato forces, once again, not being sure of what they are shooting at with the end result being that children are once again murdered.
You said a mouthful there.
Well now, perhaps you get it. I doubt it though.
Vietnam? Don't be so daft.
Yeah... read the whole thing that I was responding to. Your excuse at the end of the quoted statement.
FAILED
So stop being a hypocrite. Your hands aren't clean.
So what is the problem, you were told the truth. United States Marines were taking fire from these two houses or a group next to them. They did what anyone would do, and that was silence that fire. If they had to call in attack helicopter's it is obvious that they were taking some pretty heavy fire. There is no excuse for anyone to hide behind civilians, put that seems to be a common occurrence in Afghanistan and Iraq.
"A spokesman for the Helmand governor said the helicopter attack on Saturday was called in by United States Marines when their base came under small arms fire.
A local elder called Aslam told reporters shots were fired at Nato helicopters, which are believed to have been American, when they flew into the area.
They returned after 10 to 20 minutes and fired rockets, killing 12 of his relatives, he said."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8544969/Nato-air-strike-kills-14-Afghan-women-and-children.html
Would be nice to get the truth the first time and not have them forced into it because someone actually reported it to the public. You don't believe they would hide it if they could?
I also love the term 'insurgent'. Nowhere in the definition does it say anything about people defending their homeland from a foreign invasion force.
in·sur·gent
[in-sur-juhnt] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a person who rises in forcible opposition to lawful authority, especially a person who engages in armed resistance to a government or to the execution of its laws; rebel.
2.
a member of a section of a political party that revolts against the methods or policies of the party.
I want a mandate dammit!
Where do I apply to get a hellfire or some C4 to take out the crackhouse on the next block over? Gang bangers, kids, women and even kookum. The whole works.
They are terrorizing the neighbourhood and it's for the benefit of society and the well being of white people the world over.
Where do I apply to get a hellfire or some C4 to take out the crackhouse on the next block over? Gang bangers, kids, women and even kookum. The whole works.
They are terrorizing the neighbourhood and it's for the benefit of society and the well being of white people the world over.