Yes.People are a bunch of racist morons, has there been a war not motivated by racism ? ?
Yes.
Are you really that bereft of historical knowledge?
Yup!
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Those are just against the JoHos....
- Time Almanac 2001, Page 774.
- "Memorandum to the U.S. Government on Religious Violence in the Republic of Georgia," 2001-AUG-29, at: http://www.hrw.org/backgrounder/eca/
- Keston News Service, news release of 2001-MAR-28.
- "Focus on Faith," report on the Jehovah's Witnesses in Georgia; BBC World Service, 2001-AUG-7.
- "News Releases: Republic of Georgia," WTS, at: http://www.jw-media.org/
- "Will Georgia protect religious freedom?" WTS, at: http://www.jw-media.org/
- "Court in Republic of Georgia convicts victims of mob attack on Jehovah's Witnesses," WTS, at: http://www.jw-media.org/
- "European Parliament delegation condemns violence against Jehovah's Witnesses in Republic of Georgia," WTS, at: http://www.jw-media.org/
- "Mob Attacks Assembly of God Group in Republic of Georgia," Religion Today. Online at: http://www.angelfire.com/co/
- "Audiatur et alia pars: Comments on the Keston Institute's Recent Criticism of the Patristic Resistance Movement in the Georgian Orthodox Church," Orthodox Christian Information Center, at: http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/resistance/
- Mikhail Vignansky, "Georgian Patriarchate Declares War on Sectarians," Human Rights Without Frontiers, at: http://www.hrwf.net/English/georgia99e.html
- Steven Lee Myers, "Attacks on Minority Faiths Rise in Post-Soviet Georgia," New York Times, 2002-AUG-17, at: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/17/
- Douglas Birch, "Keeping the faith, forcefully: Doctrine: Georgian Orthodox worshippers are accused of violent attacks on members of other religious groups that have emerged since the collapse of the Soviet system," 2002-SEP-4, SunSpot.net, at: http://www.sunspot.net/news/nationworld/
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Here's two real simple ones, so you don't hurt yourself....WWI and WWII.OH enlighten me
Here's two real simple ones, so you don't hurt yourself....WWI and WWII.
That's just the tip of the iceburg.
Your silly post only strengthens the opinion that you have so little actual knowledge.
They gave the church immunity.I'm no big fan of wikipedia, however, I still fail to see that the state supported the abuse of the Johos based on theocracy
Ummm, no, here's what you really said and asked...I said that didn't involve racism....
Both those were extremely racist wars.
People are a bunch of racist morons, has there been a war not motivated by racism ? ?
I'm going to assume that you meant Georgia. Now can you quote me supporting them, that you claimed earlier?They gave the church immunity.
To ensure equity, fairness and protect individual rights. Is the clinical answer, but I also somewhat believe in the fact that 'there's justice, and there's just us'.
Neither WWI nor WWII was motivated by racism.
Sorry, my spell check made that word equity, I meant to say equality. And by that I would mean the the law is blind and we are all equal under the law. Or should be at least.What exactly do you mean by equity? It can be an ambiguous term.
Yes they were.
The Nazi's believed their Aryan race superior which gave them allowance to trample all over Europe.
I didn't want to burn out your simplistic capabilities.These were the best wars you could think of ?
You must have missed all the sh*t at Abu Grahib, Guantanamo Bay, handing over prisoners in Iraq to people that will torture and maim, and even the 'official' position of the US that waterboarding is a good thing.The difference is the United States does
not have government issuing decrees to cut peoples faces etc.
That makes the state officially barbaric.
OK, so everyone but me has universally agreed that this kind of thing is wrong. I know you all want to have this "Islam vs. West" debate for the 100th time, so should I not bother hoping someone will try to explore the real question further? I don't see anyone explaining why an "eye for an eye" attitude towards punishment in unjust.
No, because the preferred outcome would have been to take Osama alive and serve justice by deciding his punishment with due course. Once Osama resisted the orders were to kill him. Were not going to leave him there, and we're not going to wait for the Pakistani army to attack. Therefore killing Osama right then and there became the closest means of justice we could get for the 3000 people he cremated. Justice, not revenge.
They gave the church immunity.
Because then most of the planet winds up blind or dead.
Sorry, my spell check made that word equity, I meant to say equality. And by that I would mean the the law is blind and we are all equal under the law. Or should be at least.
How do you figure?
Well say someone kills my son and then in a revenge style of justice I, kill them. Would it not by your logic then be justice by revenge for their family kills me and my family kills them for that same revenge and so on, and so on.
I interpret the eye for an eye mentality as justified retribution and view it as an entirely personal approach to justice. So even if a murder is state sanctioned through capital punishment there will still be reasons for personal retribution. It is not a pick and choose issue, once you start to allow the personal will of the victim into the law it becomes easily applicable to all. You will rarely find a family member of a capital punishment recipient that doesn't feel like they are a victim themselves and would therefore be justified in assuming they are entitled to retribution if that is what justice has become.Why would the third killing in your scenario be justice? I'm not seeing it, even though you claim it's my logic. Maybe it's your logic. Could you explain?