Ontario government and Elizabeth 2+oath of allegiance

bjorkstrand

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If you work for the ontario government you have to say an allegiance to the queen or king. In 1973 I had to do it. They herded us into a room and everybody that was to be hired said it. I think Harper had to say it too. It doesn't say much for Canada.

Jim
 

gerryh

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If you work for the ontario government you have to say an allegiance to the queen or king. In 1973 I had to do it. They herded us into a room and everybody that was to be hired said it. I think Harper had to say it too. It doesn't say much for Canada.

Jim


and why does it not say much for Canada, considering she is our Queen?
 

Unforgiven

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waa waa waa lol
 

cranky

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If you work for the ontario government you have to say an allegiance to the queen or king. In 1973 I had to do it. They herded us into a room and everybody that was to be hired said it. I think Harper had to say it too. It doesn't say much for Canada.

Jim

Meh, who cares
 

weaselwords

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Hey as long as we are a member of the Commonwealth the Queen is our titular leader. You want to change that, lobby for a referendum to declare Canada a Republic. Remember in doing so the BNA Act, the Constitution & the Charter are voided (depending on the worfing of the referendum). Do you really want to go thru another extended period of Constitutional reform that a Republic would bring?
 

cranky

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Hey as long as we are a member of the Commonwealth the Queen is our titular leader. You want to change that, lobby for a referendum to declare Canada a Republic. Remember in doing so the BNA Act, the Constitution & the Charter are voided (depending on the worfing of the referendum). Do you really want to go thru another extended period of Constitutional reform that a Republic would bring?

The charter acknowledges traditional rights, and the scc has already made several rulings where the have used the charter to affirm the rights that exist from the bna
 

Corduroy

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Hey as long as we are a member of the Commonwealth the Queen is our titular leader.

India is a member of the Commonwealth and the Queen is not India's titular head.

You want to change that, lobby for a referendum to declare Canada a Republic. Remember in doing so the BNA Act, the Constitution & the Charter are voided (depending on the worfing of the referendum).

Depending on the wording of the referendum? OK, what if the wording of the referendum didn't void them?

Do you really want to go thru another extended period of Constitutional reform that a Republic would bring?

Yes, there are a lot of things in constitution that need changing.
 

Colpy

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If you work for the ontario government you have to say an allegiance to the queen or king. In 1973 I had to do it. They herded us into a room and everybody that was to be hired said it. I think Harper had to say it too. It doesn't say much for Canada.

Jim

Perhaps if you don't like this, you shouldn't be working for the Crown........

Just sayin'

:)
 

weaselwords

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India is a member of the Commonwealth and the Queen is not India's titular head.
India ceased to be a Dominion and became a Republic in 1947.



Depending on the wording of the referendum? OK, what if the wording of the referendum didn't void them?
7 Provinces + 50% of the population according to Constitution would be necessary to declare a Republic. Here we have a problem because Quebec never signed on so effectively you're looking at Ontario + 6 of the others.



Yes, there are a lot of things in constitution that need changing.
Thats a thread on it own.

India is a member of the Commonwealth and the Queen is not India's titular head.
India ceased to be a Dominion and became a Republic in 1947.



Depending on the wording of the referendum? OK, what if the wording of the referendum didn't void them?
7 Provinces + 50% of the population according to Constitution would be necessary to declare a Republic. Here we have a problem because Quebec never signed on so effectively you're looking at Ontario + 6 of the others.
 

Corduroy

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India ceased to be a Dominion and became a Republic in 1947.

What's your point?

7 Provinces + 50% of the population according to Constitution would be necessary to declare a Republic. Here we have a problem because Quebec never signed on so effectively you're looking at Ontario + 6 of the others.

That doesn't address the point in any way. If you're going to post random facts please don't do so in reply to my posts, because then I might actually think you're addressing me.
 

weaselwords

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Well aren't we stuffy. You ask why India does not consider the its titular head "its a Republic not a Dominion" as noted in its 1947 Constitution. Canada is a Dominion recognizing the Queen
You asked what would happen regarding wording leaving our constitution in effect & what we're left with is the formula for change.
 

Corduroy

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You ask why India does not consider the its titular head "its a Republic not a Dominion" as noted in its 1947 Constitution.

I didn't ask that. But now your answer makes sense. You imagined I did ask and then answered it.

You asked what would happen regarding wording leaving our constitution in effect & what we're left with is the formula for change.

Do you think it's possible to remove the Crown from the constitution without voiding the constitution?