The witness to Jesus

[MHz]

Well that should be the goal of any worthwhile quest. Got a cup of Black Hole I can borrow?

 

[Cliffy]

Circulation means reading, devout Chrisatian Scribes would have been hand copying scrolls from when they were first given to the writers.

So the OT was a closely guarded document of the RCC?

Who were these devout Christian scribes? Monks belonging to the RCC. Who outside Jewish Rabbis and Catholic monks and priests had access to those writings? Nobody. Everybody else had to listen to the interpretations handed to them by the Rabbis and priests. There was no widely distributed versions of the bible outside the church and the Jews were not prone to discussing anything about their version with anybody outside their religion.

 

[Omicron]

Who were these devout Christian scribes? Monks belonging to the RCC. Who outside Jewish Rabbis and Catholic monks and priests had access to those writings? Nobody. Everybody else had to listen to the interpretations handed to them by the Rabbis and priests. There was no widely distributed versions of the bible outside the church and the Jews were not prone to discussing anything about their version with anybody outside their religion.

I met Jesus in a dream one day: He sung like this: http://tunes.digitalock.com/feniculifenicula.mp3 <-- click to play

I asked to communicate with the Father: I got this: http://tunes.digitalock.com/sixdaysontheroad.mp3 <-- click to play

Whereupon I asked to communicate with the Holy Spirit, and I got this: http://tunes.digitalock.com/gimmesympathyacoustic.mp3 <-- click to play


I'm thinking that the early stage of civilization under God was discipline of the Father, for that's how stupid neanderthal bully we were, until finally one day enough got cool enough to get it enough for God to show the world what we'd be like if we were Him, whereupon after the crucifixionist attack to proove humans were still a mob, He *still* had the stuff according to Him and His Father's evaluation of humans to introduce them to the Mother... the female Holy Ghost side.

The Son introduced his spiritual Mother at Pentecost, in spite of the crucifixion it took for him to make that point.

Now instead of spirituality being only God an a-hole Father, there was the Holy Ghost to whom you could listen to to tell you now to pray to God (like a woman telling you how to talk to the big guy), and to be the one to comfort you in a way He would not do.

How many of you guys have read your scriptures?

How many of you have noticed that the only thing to truly piss off God the Father and the Son are rejection of the Holy Spirit?

Sounds like a family who will not let you hurt Mom.

Anyway, I have a mom too, and I know she doesn't need to be fed music unless she's having her period, whereupon as a kid I learned it was wize to do it this way: http://tunes.digitalock.com/enyaadiemus.mp3 <-- click to play

I can harmonize as fast as my mom can think. One of those advantages of being raised by a mom who also taught me language. Mom taught me how to sing: http://tunes.digitalock.com/raggletagglegypsio_dancemix.mp3 <-- click to play, and dad taught me how to think.

Dad taught me how to dance. Through the bush and how to shoot things with properly sighted scopes. http://tunes.digitalock.com/greenhornet.mp3 <<- click to play

With scoped, sighted things I'm not going to bore you. I got my first yearling buck when I was nine, which I'm obviously kidding about because there's no way anyone would have had a dad so cool as to let his dumb kid dear hunt in the foothills of Alberta and let that kid shoot it just because said kid spotted it before the old man, any more than said old man would have let him shoot a first antelope at fourteen when you have to get up before dawn and crawl on bellies over pear cactus to get in position.

Bloody hell, where does one go and or what does one do to give their parents one great big giant muther-****-in thanks?

I saw how the kids around me acted hostile and f-cked up, and I just thought they were being weird by choice, and I was feeling tyrannized when hearing stories about how they got to stay up late and eat dinners of pork-and beans when mine were systematically full dishes of venison or trout or pheasant with all the garden vegetables and salad my mother could grown and can-or-freeze and I had to go to bed at eight and use imagination to put myself to sleep.

The rule is, my parent get to heaven or I am going to show Lucifer how to take you down Heavenly Father.

That's not a very good prayer, is it?

Anyway, I've prayed enough for Him to know that I know that He knows that the favor is not letting my parents in, but for me to get in, so ... the rule is this: You don't hurt my parents: http://tunes.digitalock.com/greenhornet.mp3 <-- click to play

In any case, there's a way for this nation to survive Armageddon relatively unscathed if the chowder-punks can stop masturbating all over the belly of evil and stop sitting down on it's hadron.

http://tunes.digitalock.com/hellodarknessgregorian.mp3 <-- click to play

 

[MHz]

Who were these devout Christian scribes? Monks belonging to the RCC. Who outside Jewish Rabbis and Catholic monks and priests had access to those writings? Nobody. Everybody else had to listen to the interpretations handed to them by the Rabbis and priests. There was no widely distributed versions of the bible outside the church and the Jews were not prone to discussing anything about their version with anybody outside their religion.

At first they were Jews, like all the authors of all the books in the Holy Bible. Even Paul hitting all the Synagogues meant the Jerws were getting the new and updated version first. That doesn't mean the writings were in Hebrew as the text was meant to end up with the Gentiles.
The KJV Preface has a list of other Bibles in use at that time. Unused in the KJV translation as was any Latin RCC versions. The early version of the Holy Bible (say 325 AD) would have been Greek and Hebrew before being translated into Latin. (I suppose the 323 'list' could have been in Latin but the original Scripts were still available to Christian Scribes, especially when the one doing the requesting was the ruling King of England.

The bolded apart above was also in prophecy and you are referencing the non-Christian Jews, the verses below are how God predicted it would happen an hows He views that aspect of their life when His back is turned to them.

Eze36:19-25
And I scattered them among the heathen,
and they were dispersed through the countries:
according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
And when they entered unto the heathen,
whither they went,
they profaned my holy name,
when they said to them,
These are the people of the LORD,
and are gone forth out of his land.
But I had pity for mine holy name,
which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen,
whither they went.
Therefore say unto the house of Israel,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
I do not this for your sakes,
O house of Israel,
but for mine holy name's sake,
which ye have profaned among the heathen,
whither ye went.
And I will sanctify my great name,
which was profaned among the heathen,
which ye have profaned in the midst of them;
and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD,
saith the Lord GOD,
when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
For I will take you from among the heathen,
and gather you out of all countries,
and will bring you into your own land.
Then will I .......

Sorry pen ran out of ink, you are going to have to look up the rest if you want to know the rest of the story.

I'm thinking that the early stage of civilization under God was discipline of the Father, for that's how stupid neanderthal bully we were, until finally one day

The neos had one advantage over the humans, they did work well together in large groups, they taught the humans how to be sicial with each other. Their down fall was their noses could not acclimatize to the increased humidity in the air and their noses got stuffy and they could not smell, a deadly thing for a people who needed to be able to 'sniff even the wind' in order to survive.

 

[petros]

Wtf?

 

[MHz]

Find a science/med teacher and find out if the neos nose wes larger so theu could add moisture to the air they were breathing in. In a climate with very low humidity (winter) a large nose would allow for large nodules that grow and shrink depending on the humidity. If they are close to blocking smell at 25% humidity then the end of the ice-age and it increase to 70% humidity would have ruined their ability to smell, fodd could pass just behind you and finding a mate in heat would also help in killing off the group.

 

[petros]

Where would I find one of those?

 

[MHz]

It wouldn't be an independent source if I helped. The way I came to think about this was a documentary on Europe during the last ice-age. Some little antelope type critter is said to have lived there and it's nose was 'larger than normal' and that was the purpose for it, controlling temp and humidity for air coming in and leaving. That was enough for me to connect the lager nose on on the Neos as having a similar function. It would be like having small feet and a large body and suddenly you are living in bog country. The ones with big feet and small bodies are the ones who will survive.

 

[petros]

It wouldn't be an independent source if I helped. The way I came to think about this was a documentary on Europe during the last ice-age. Some little antelope type critter is said to have lived there and it's nose was 'larger than normal' and that was the purpose for it, controlling temp and humidity for air coming in and leaving. That was enough for me to connect the lager nose on on the Neos as having a similar function. It would be like having small feet and a large body and suddenly you are living in bog country. The ones with big feet and small bodies are the ones who will survive.

Think of this for a minute. We are allegedly in an extremely warm inter-glacial period yet there is no place on this planet that man can sleep without wearing skins, blankets, or some sort of other ground cover or sleeping by a fire a night.


How come?

 

[MHz]

The natural furnace is turned off. If that is a problem it would seem they should sleep when the sun is out and walk around when it is down.

 

[petros]

Even animals with fur need shelter and sleep at night.

 

[MHz]

Ever listen to a forest in the day and then at night? The night is busier.

 

[petros]

In the day you can't hear the forest for the birds.

 

[eanassir]

MHz is an enthusiastic associater (Mushrik), and Dexter is a losing atheist

MHz, you follow the distorted books and have convinced yourself with its complex ideas, and you fit yourself to such strange doctrines that are even stranger from the true religion of God.

You are enthusiastic about Jesus and actually you are an associater of Jesus together with God Almighty;

if you deny this, I say to you that even such much mentioning of Jesus is a sort of associating him with God to Whom is due all the glorification and exclusive servitude, not to Jesus neither to anyone else.

While Dexter is a loser, because he takes a way against God Almighty, and try to take the subject as a joke seeing himself loftier than the books of God.

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(Alif, Lam, Ra. That means: Recite To people O Messenger: A scripture that We have revealed to you [Mohammed]
that you may bring people out of the darkness [of the ignorance and idolatry] into the light [of monotheism and guidance]
with permission of their Lord,
to the way of the Almighty, the Praiseworthy.)

This is the explanation of the aya 14: 1
{الَر كِتَابٌ أَنزَلْنَاهُ إِلَيْكَ لِتُخْرِجَ النَّاسَ مِنَ الظُّلُمَاتِ إِلَى النُّورِ بِإِذْنِ رَبِّهِمْ إِلَى صِرَاطِ الْعَزِيزِ الْحَمِيدِ}

quran-ayat.co

 

[MHz]

So there won't be any discussion, oh well. I have rejected many things the current 'churches' promote, every verse in the Bible has remained in it's original form, including this one that involves more than what was said that day.

M't.17:5
While he yet spake,
behold,
a bright cloud overshadowed them:
and behold a voice out of the cloud,
which said,
This is my beloved Son,
in whom I am well pleased;
hear ye him.

Yet you do just the opposite, what position are you putting yourself in??

M't.10:13
And if the house be worthy,
let your peace come upon it:
but if it be not worthy,
let your peace return to you.
M't.10:14
And whosoever shall not receive you,
nor hear your words,
when ye depart out of that house or city,
shake off the dust of your feet.
M't.10:15
Verily
I say unto you,
It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment,
than for that city.
M't.10:16
Behold,
I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves:
be ye therefore wise as serpents,
and harmless as doves.
M't.10:17
But beware of men:
for they will deliver you up to the councils,
and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

In the day you can't hear the forest for the birds.

That's good to know, I thought fear of being eaten sort of enhanced the hearing a little.

 

[eanassir]

Yet you do just the opposite, what position are you putting yourself in??

I put myself to devoting to God alone according to the creed of Abraham who was against the idolatry and devoted himself to God alone exclusively: who was before Moses and before Jesus.

 

[MHz]

Who do you think was Abraham's Priest?

Joh/8:58
Jesus said unto them,
Verily,
verily,
I say unto you,
Before Abraham was,
I am.

Heb.5:5
So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest;
but he that said unto him,
Thou art my Son,
to day have I begotten thee.
Heb.5:6
As he saith also in another place,
Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Heb.5:10
Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

Ge.14:18
And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine:
and he was the priest of the most high God.
Ge.14:19
And he blessed him,
and said,
Blessed be Abram of the most high God,
possessor of heaven and earth:
Ge.14:20
And blessed be the most high God,
which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand.
And he gave him tithes of all.

I put myself to devoting to God alone according to the creed of Abraham who was against the idolatry and devoted himself to God alone exclusively: who was before Moses and before Jesus.

According to whose rules was the question and do you know anybody that does not live in the area defined? God wrote the Bible, He even scripted the NT, that is who the boss is.

Lu.6:46
And why call ye me,
Lord,
Lord,
and do not the things which I say?

M't.25:32
And before him shall be gathered all nations:
and he shall separate them one from another,
as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
M't.25:33
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand,
but the goats on the left.

Jer.25:26
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
Jer.25:33
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.

 

[eanassir]

You will not refrain from your enthusiasm about Jesus.

I told you Abraham had been before the Torah was revealed to Moses and the Gospel was revealed to Jesus.
Moreover, I told you that there is something peculiar about Jesus who was an angel in heaven: (therefore, he did not say: son of Adam, but son of man!)
But he was an apostle like many apostles had passed away before him.
Who is Jesus Christ, and what is peculiar about him?

And you will not refrain from restricting yourself to the present Gospels, while you know very well the defects included in them and they are varified by the hands of people, and therefore it is not proper to refer to the present Gospels to base your doctrine, but refer to the Ten Words of God: they are true and authentic.

To claim a son to God is very serious mistake eventhough you may find in some books of the NT; it was the words of the possessed man, while Jesus entitled himself (the son of man), which is very strange why should any man entitle himself a son of man; because all people are sons of man; but Jesus insisted on this title, while the possessed man called him: son of God.

And it is mentioned in the Torah collection (OT) that God in neither a man so that He forgets, nor is He a son of man so He may regret (or something like that.)

In the Quran 19: 88-93 God said:

وَقَالُوا اتَّخَذَ الرَّحْمَنُ وَلَدًا
لَقَدْ جِئْتُمْ شَيْئًا إِدًّا
تَكَادُ السَّمَاوَاتُ يَتَفَطَّرْنَ مِنْهُ وَتَنشَقُّ الْأَرْضُ وَتَخِرُّ الْجِبَالُ هَدًّا
أَن دَعَوْا لِلرَّحْمَنِ وَلَدًا
وَمَا يَنبَغِي لِلرَّحْمَنِ أَن يَتَّخِذَ وَلَدًا
إِن كُلُّ مَن فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ إِلَّا آتِي الرَّحْمَنِ عَبْدًا​

The explanation:

(And they say: "[God] Most Gracious has begotten a son [or daughters.]"
Indeed, you have advanced a thing most hideous.
Because of that; the skies are about to crack, the earth split asunder and the mountains fall down crushed.
In case they [insist] on attributing a son [or daughters] to the Most Gracious.
But the Most Gracious ought not to beget a son [or daughters.]
None is there in the heavens and the earth but he comes to the Most Gracious as a servant.)

 

[gerryh]

I put myself to devoting to God alone according to the creed of Abraham who was against the idolatry and devoted himself to God alone exclusively: who was before Moses and before Jesus.

No you don't. You follow Mohamed first, and God a distant second.

 

[MHz]

You will not refrain from your enthusiasm about Jesus.

That is who is a Christians master is. His task (next few) is to resurrect people from the graves that God wants out, He is then allowed to add to that group from the time of the cross until the sound of the 7th trump. If everybody has to go by Jesus to get to his Father then Christian are getting an advance list of events. It isn't like we alone have a lock on salvation, no matter what the false ones say.

I told you Abraham had been before the Torah was revealed to Moses and the Gospel was revealed to Jesus.
Moreover, I told you that there is something peculiar about Jesus who was an angel in heaven: (therefore, he did not say: son of Adam, but son of man!)
But he was an apostle like many apostles had passed away before him.
Who is Jesus Christ, and what is peculiar about him?

Christ was the High Priest of Salem, that is one of many instances He mad an appearance. If no man (except Jesus) has seen God's face then who did Adam talk to if it was not Christ? Proverbs 8 is Christ view of Genesis 1, God's view and Genesis 2, Holy Spirit's view. How anout this witness, if you don't believe the words spoken by His followers.

M't.8:28
And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes,
there met him two possessed with devils,
coming out of the tombs,
exceeding fierce,
so that no man might pass by that way.
M't.8:29
And, behold,
they cried out,
saying,
What have we to do with thee,
Jesus,
thou Son of God?
art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

And you will not refrain from restricting yourself to the present Gospels, while you know very well the defects included in them and they are varified by the hands of people, and therefore it is not proper to refer to the present Gospels to base your doctrine, but refer to the Ten Words of God: they are true and authentic.

Do you classify Him as a High Priest that has more sheep that just the 12 Tribes??
Defects like this??

M't.22:36
Master,
which is the great commandment in the law?
M't.22:37
Jesus said unto him,
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart,
and with all thy soul,
and with all thy mind.
M't.22:38
This is the first and great commandment.

To claim a son to God is very serious mistake eventhough you may find in some books of the NT; it was the words of the possessed man, while Jesus entitled himself (the son of man), which is very strange why should any man entitle himself a son of man; because all people are sons of man; but Jesus insisted on this title, while the possessed man called him: son of God.

This possessed man? The capital 'S' is a heavenly title bestowed on one person who existed before anything.body was created, angels or men. His mom is the Holy Spirit. God explained it in Ge.1

M't.3:17
And lo a voice from heaven,
saying,
This is my beloved Son,
in whom I am well pleased.
M't.17:5
While he yet spake,
behold,
a bright cloud overshadowed them:
and behold a voice out of the cloud,
which said,
This is my beloved Son,
in whom I am well pleased;
hear ye him.

And it is mentioned in the Torah collection (OT) that God in neither a man so that He forgets, nor is He a son of man so He may regret (or something like that.)

How about something like this and just concede the Bible is a Holy Book?