Monarchy

[Omicron]

Just out of curiosity, how many of you morons think there's a problem with the monarchy.

Corporate capitalists will hate it because the top position is already filled.

So I was wondering if there's a way to find the biological remnant of the french monarchy and set her/him up with what the Queen will send to Canada (she offered to send Andrew in 1982 for Canada to have its crown hosted locally, but Trudeau rejected)...

... In order to have the Canadian crown here.

Most Harpazoid morons brainwashed by US radio don't know that Elizabeth is holding multiple crowns, one of which is the Canadian crown, and that she can choose to hand it over to anyone she wants.

Picture this. Quebec, the heartland of republicanism, becomes the caretaker of the rejuvenation of the French Crown.

I can already hear them rioting at me.

Then they get to see the global benefits.

France is kissing their butts.

The best movie set-dec people on the planet get to create a *new* form of royal palace and carriage.

Quebec gets to dominate Western Europe with design of royal costume...

Plus, it gets to be the protection of the descendants of whoever that snot was who drew all those bird pictures.

If Quebec were to find itself holding the mantle of protection of French civilization, would the rest of Canada defend her?

Obviously yes.

 

[YukonJack]

You post this and then have the nerve to call others - you did not even hear from - morons?

 

[CDNBear]

You post this and then have the nerve to call others - you did not even hear from - morons?

That's what happens when you go off your meds and self medicate with alcohol.

 

[TenPenny]

Just out of curiosity, how many of you morons think there's a problem with the monarchy.

Obviously not addressed to me; out of curiosity, who is this addressed to?

 

[DaSleeper]

Just out of curiosity, how many of you morons think there's a problem with the monarchy.

Corporate capitalists will hate it because the top position is already filled.

So I was wondering if there's a way to find the biological remnant of the french monarchy and set her/him up with what the Queen will send to Canada (she offered to send Andrew in 1982 for Canada to have its crown hosted locally, but Trudeau rejected)...

... In order to have the Canadian crown here.

Most Harpazoid morons brainwashed by US radio don't know that Elizabeth is holding multiple crowns, one of which is the Canadian crown, and that she can choose to hand it over to anyone she wants.

Picture this. Quebec, the heartland of republicanism, becomes the caretaker of the rejuvenation of the French Crown.

I can already hear them rioting at me.

Then they get to see the global benefits.

France is kissing their butts.

The best movie set-dec people on the planet get to create a *new* form of royal palace and carriage.

Quebec gets to dominate Western Europe with design of royal costume...

Plus, it gets to be the protection of the descendants of whoever that snot was who drew all those bird pictures.

If Quebec were to find itself holding the mantle of protection of French civilization, would the rest of Canada defend her?

Obviously yes.

 

[SLM]

You post this and then have the nerve to call others - you did not even hear from - morons?

Yes, great opening line isn't it? Really makes one want to participate.

 

[taxslave]

Not sure about any morons but all us intelligent people are against supporting a bunch of inbred foreigners. Aside from the waste of money it is embarrassing to have to ask a foreigner to sign our laws and have their faces on our money. Unless you like colonial rule. Which means you lack intelligence.

 

[wulfie68]

I have no idea who this is actually addressed to, but the idea Conservatives are more against the monarchy than others seems a bit of a stretch when you consider the most outspoken advocate of republicanism in Canada over the past decade is form Liberal cabinet minister John Manley.

Personally, I am ambivalent to the institution, as I have stated in numerous other threads (usually instigated by that bastion of "progressive" thought known here as Dumpthemonarchy). While the idea of an unelected head of state holding sway over us is unappealing, I don't think we should be getting rid of it without a clear plan to replace it with an institution that will provide more benefit to Canadians, especially given the massive costs entailed in removing the Monarchy from all aspects of our society.

And why in the name of all you hold dear, would you want to replace an even-handed Aglo-Germanic family with the dregs of a bunch of autocratic French buffoons? There are historical reasons why the French royalty became extinct...

 

[YukonJack]

Many years ago during a discussion about the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution, somebody asked me if I think there was even one thing the Bolsheviks did right?

Told him the way they dealt with the Romanoffs was not only entirely the right thing, it was also long overdue.

 

[Bar Sinister]

I think I might start a thread asking how many morons do support the monarchy.

 

[Colpy]

I think I might start a thread asking how many morons do support the monarchy.

I do!

wait a minute........

 

[Corduroy]

Grammatically, he called all of us morons regardless of our support or lack of support for monarchy.

Most Harpazoid morons brainwashed by US radio don't know that Elizabeth is holding multiple crowns, one of which is the Canadian crown, and that she can choose to hand it over to anyone she wants.

The Queen can't hand over her any of her crowns without an act of Parliament. Whoever holds any of the Commonwealth crowns is entirely up to the governments of the Commonwealth realms. In fact, precedent would suggest she can't even abdicate without an act of Parliament.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Here's another reason to rid ourselves of the useless monarchy, which makes us part of the Commonwealth. Halifax withdrew its bid for the 2014 Commonwealth Games. A bid estimated at $1.7 billion in 2007. Which would have likely doubled at least by 2014. Look at the Vancouver Olympic costs.

One day we are going to accidentally win a CW Games and have to fork over several billion bucks for a third rate sporting competition with third world nations. Why?

So, don't let anyone tell you the monarchy is cheap, it's not. It has multibillion dollar boondoggle attached to it that could explode at any time.

Halifax drops out of Commonwealth Games race - Nova Scotia - CBC News

Halifax drops out of Commonwealth Games race

Last Updated: Thursday, March 8, 2007 | 5:07 PM AT

CBC


Canada is out of the race for the 2014 Commonwealth Games, as Halifax abandoned its bid Thursday, saying the $1.7-billion cost was too high.

"To say that I am disappointed, to say that I am astonished would be to bring understatement to a new level," said Andrew Pipe, president of Commonwealth Games Canada.

The event, he said, was "eminently winnable."

Municipal and provincial politicians said once inflation is factored in, the bid budget is close to $1.7 billion — almost $1 billion higher than originally stated — and the risks associated with pursuing the Games are too high.

"I am very sorry that we have not been able to move forward with this," said Barry Barnet, Nova Scotia's minister of health promotion.
"But you know I have to be responsible. We are $700 million short in terms of our ability to meet our obligations to host these Games."
Halifax regional council voted to withdraw its support at an emergency meeting Thursday morning, but it was a difficult decision, said Mayor Peter Kelly.

"We must do what the taxpayers of HRM expect us to do and that is protect their financial interests both in the short term and in the long term," Kelly said.

Officials said the team of consultants hired to analyze the Games found there were questionable revenue projections and insufficient contingency funding that could leave the province at risk in case of cost overruns.

In addition, the consultants said 92 per cent of the cost of the Games would have to be provided by taxpayers, a higher level than was expected.

The federal government said it would commit only $400 million if Halifax won the bid, while the province said it would spend up to $300 million.

Thursday's announcement came amid growing concern that Halifax and the province couldn't afford the Games, which were first pegged at $785 million.
'Never given that opportunity'

Fred MacGillivray, president of the Halifax bid committee, lashed out at the province and municipality, accusing them of giving in to a vocal minority of local critics opposed to the bid.

He said the two levels of government made a knee-jerk reaction and the bid team was prepared to bring the cost down to a figure everyone could afford.

"We recognize if we changed some locations we may be able to reduce that number further. We asked, we were never given that opportunity," MacGillivray said.

Many supporters of the Halifax bid argued the city would get new sports facilities only if it won the Games, while others said the event would shine an international spotlight on the city and raise its profile.

"I can't describe how disappointed we are," said Chris Algar, a 1999 Canada Games athlete. "I feel this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for us.

"They're saying we couldn't host it because we don't have the infrastructure. This is a chance to build that infrastructure. How do you suppose we're going to get it now?"
Accepts decision

Don Mills, chair of Bring on the Games, a group supporting the bid, said he was disappointed with the decision to withdraw but backs the province and city.

"We accept the verdict of the two levels of government in terms of the issue of affordability," said Mills, one day after he accused Kelly and Premier Rodney MacDonald of a lack of leadership on the issue.

Kelly said the Halifax team vying for the Games had spent up to $7 million as of the end of January trying to win the event.
The bid team announced last November it would cost $14.3 million to plan and design venues and facilities, as well as hire experts to sell the bid. At the end of 2006, the travel bill to 33 countries was almost $500,000.

When asked if the withdrawal will hurt Nova Scotia's reputation abroad, Barnet said the most important thing is the reputation at home.
Halifax won the right to be the Canadian bid city in 2005, beating Hamilton, Ottawa and the York region.

With Halifax out of the race, the competition for the 2014 event is among Glasgow, Scotland and Abuja, Nigeria. The winner will be announced in November.