Lucky Conservatives....

[Praxius]

It's really too bad a lightweight like Layton seems have the controls in this election. On one hand you have a leader of a party who has guided the government thru 5 years of minority

He hasn't led anything... he's continually refused to work with any of the other political parties (which you need to do to make a minority government work), he has never been transparent with the public or ever properly explained anything to the public on what's going on in our government and our nation..... and last time I checked, HE WORKS FOR US, not the other way around.

That and about two forum pages of other things he has done that prove he's not fit to run this government, let alone hold any sort of power.

on* the other a leader well respected in world circles but not at home.

The moment he can show he knows something about his "Home" then maybe we can talk about him running our "Home"

He might be good as an ambassador or foreign advisor/affairs, or something like that, but he has yet to prove he can be responsible for running this country.

Either of these men should be able to outpace Layton in every way. It doesn't bode well for after May 3 and the next government of Canada

You would think either of of them "Should"..... but they're not.

Why?

Because of their own down falls, short comings and failures. Layton has time & time again proven he can not just talk the talk, but walk the walk. He has dominated the debates in both french & english, including last election's debates imo, he answers unscripted questions with straight forward & honest answers, he explains his plans in plain english without beating around the bush like the other leaders, is willing to work with other parties (as proven over the years) to get work done, and he has always been on top of the important issues this country has concerns with, which the other parties trivialize or just don't get.

And the public knows this.... which is why they're moving towards the NDP.

Harper and Iggy have failed to prove themselves to be the better option over Layton, and even if they were truly the better options over Layton, they failed to convince the public that they are..... either way, they failed.

That's Democracy.

You gotta wonder about the intellect of the average Canadian ??

Indeed, you prove that everyday by supporting corrupt, two-faced political failures. :lol:

 

[cranky]

Praxius, if I promise to vote NDP, do you promise to remove that annoying insect from your signature?

 

[Praxius]

Ladies and Gentlemen, might I direct your attention away from the lovely and charming Mr. Jack Layton, and ask you to look carefully at his POLICIES!!!!

Geezus.....It's like a bunch of 60s girls at a Beatles concert.

OMG! Trudeaumania.....and you know where THAT got us!

lol (hysterically)

Yeah, thanks, I saw his policies and I agree with them.

Now how about you look at Harper's & Iggy's.

Oh wait.... they don't have any policies except to bash everybody else and make them look worse then they do.

No matter how hard you & others try, Layton still wins.

Yes, it was that dumbo Iggy who brought down the government. He will now be known as the biggest dumbo of the century.

I dunno.... it'd be tough to beat out Dion.... he couldn't even score a goal against a little kid during a road hockey match.

 

[Durry]

Oh wait.... they don't have any policies except to bash everybody else and make them look worse then they ns.

No, that's not correct, they all have polices.

 

[Praxius]

Praxius, if I promise to vote NDP, do you promise to remove that annoying insect from your signature?

Sure, that works for me.

 

[cranky]

No, that's not correct, they all have polices.

Harper's is pretty simple. He wants to stay the course. I don't have a problem with that.

 

[Praxius]

No, that's not correct, they all have polices.

Really?

Funny, I never heard either of them mention them..... All I've heard from Harper is that if you don't give him a Majority, then you'll end up with a Coalition (oOOooooo)..... and if you don't vote for Iggy, then you'll get Harper ruining more things.... which is true.... but still, they're not focusing on their own plans & policies enough for the public to register.

Layton is.

 

[Durry]

Really?

Funny, I never heard either of them mention them..... All I've heard from Harper is that if you don't give him a Majority, then you'll end up with a Coalition (oOOooooo)..... and if you don't vote for Iggy, then you'll get Harper ruining more things.... which is true.... but still, they're not focusing on their own plans & policies enough for the public to register.

Layton is.

Ahhhh, your being pretty bias, they have talked about their positions/polices.

Layton keeps saying parliament is broken and only he can fix it???? He's part of the reason it's broken !!

 

[cranky]

Durry has a point. They all have their policies and platforms, and with the internet, you dont have to rely on the media to find out about them.

 

[Jack_Of_Spade]

Sure, that works for me.

Dam if I had know that would get NDP more votes I would of got my own signiture insect! LOL

Peter Stoffer is the NDP MP for this riding. After being a very strong critic against the long gun registry, he flip flopped on this issue and voted against the private members bill that was in it's 3rd reading. And, then he had the arogance to claim that he was voting the will of his voters.

I doubt it. We voted him into power while his platform included critical thinking against the long gun registry.

Seriously! The long gun registry? Thats your pet peev! Most canadian dont understand why registering your long gun is such an issue . We register our cars, our RV's , boats, so whats the big deal we ask ?I can promiss you its an issue that wont win an election because thats not what Canadians worry about every day.

Harper's is pretty simple. He wants to stay the course. I don't have a problem with that.

I'm sure the captain of the Titanic felt the same way! LOL "stay the course!"

 

[lone wolf]

You are responsible for any damage your registered firearm does - whether it is in your possession or not. Would you really trust your own security to a retrieval system that a twelve-year-old can hack into? Killing the long gun registry is one of the points for which I would have given a Conservative government my vote. Harper, himself, is the reason they won't get it. I voted for Mulroney and got Free Trade, GST - then out-of-business. I voted for Harris (Ontario) and was bullied almost to the point of suicide (or worse) by his peculiar version of Common Sense. I lived many years with a narcissist. Go with the gut, Wolf... Go with the gut....

 

[cranky]

I have no idea whether x.2 billion of economic aid or x.3 billion is the magic number. So, yes, I will vote for the party that wants dismantle the long gun registry.

 

[oldrebel]

I think Layton's popularity is a protest against the same old government we've seen for the last 50 years. People want change.
If the people want Layton, so be it. I just hope they take the time to look closely at his policies and how they will be funded. We could end up in big trouble. His idealism is wonderful, but tax and spend is not a good policy in these times. We could end up like the European countries that have gone broke.
Thee's no denying that Harper has gotten us through the recession in comparative good shape. A change of direction right now might not be wise.
Time will tell I guess.

 

[Cannuck]

I love how you suggest that there is no reasonable limit to how many people will vote NDP.

Of course there is a limit. Heading into this election, the Dippers and the Libs were splitting the left vote. The Cons could have (and probably would have) come up the middle and taken some seats that they otherwise wouldn't. If enough Liberal supporter jump to the Dippers, it will be difficult if not impossible to do that. Given that Liberal support is dropping by the minute, the election can't come fast enough for the Conservatives.

 

[Praxius]

Ahhhh, your being pretty bias, they have talked about their positions/polices.

I'm no more bias then you are.

How does it feel?

Layton keeps saying parliament is broken and only he can fix it???? He's part of the reason it's broken !!

Considering the influence and control the Liberals & Conservatives have had over the last century + towards controlling Parliament, the NDP has only been a small lego block in comparison to the other two's "Parts" they played in how broken it is.

Once the NDP are running the show, and once they start screwing things up as badly as the Cons & Libs have, then you can talk about how much of an impact they have had in breaking things.

Durry has a point. They all have their policies and platforms, and with the internet, you dont have to rely on the media to find out about them.

Indeed..... yet I shouldn't have to have lazy politicians digging for my vote who don't actually take the time to speak to the public about what their platforms are and expect myself and everybody else to do the work for them by going on their web site.

Layton visits communities around the country just like the other leaders, yet he doesn't waste his time getting on his soap box bashing the other parties and what they did or didn't do..... he answers questions, he tells people what the plans are..... and if they want more details, sure, they can go to the NDP web site to see exactly how it's all going to work.

Meanwhile Iggy & Harper use this time to bash, fear monger & attack, while their policies and plans seem to be an after-thought & that we're supposed to go to their web sites to actually find out what they plan to do.

...... which when they get in power, they never end up doing anyways, so what's the point?

 

[Mowich]

The problem is that even if you are conservative, you still shouldn't be voting conservative right now.

Right, floss - telling people how they should vote - just like a politician. Nothing wrong with stating your views but you have no business telling anyone how they should or should not vote - that is up to the individual, IMHO.

 

[Praxius]

....... Thee's no denying that Harper has gotten us through the recession in comparative good shape. A change of direction right now might not be wise.
Time will tell I guess.

Has he?

Has he really?

During the last election, during the global meltdown, Harper continually told us all that we're not heading into a recession and that everything is perfectly fine.... vote for him….. meanwhile everybody in the country, all of the other parties, and the rest of the entire world was telling him otherwise.

Then he gets into power and admits we're heading into a recession..... then while every other country is working on stimulus plans to try and reduce the impact, what did Harper do?

He put out a budget that was to gut all of his competition to the point of bankruptcy so he wouldn’t have any competition and thus, rule with an iron fist and either force another election, or the other parties formed a Coalition to avoid an election…. Then he abuses our democratic system by proroguing Parliament to avoid both which bought him time to whip up a budget that included a stimulus package that he was told was needed before the last election.

If the NDP or even the Liberals were in power at the time, we would have been on track sooner to recovery.

There’s no denying Harper got us through the recession?

What the hell is wrong with you?


If it wasn't for the other parties bashing him over the head, nothing would have been done and we'd probably be a 3rd world country by now with Harper ruling as king with his fancy crown made out of toonies & loonies.

 

[Mowich]

I have a very hard time trusting someone whose ads tells us that he will measure the economy but whether "I" can make ends meet. I like Jack - decent, hard-working, fairly honest - he is a pol - and dedicated.... but I have serious doubts about having his hands in the 'till' of our country.

Has he?

Has he really?

During the last election, during the global meltdown, Harper continually told us all that we're not heading into a recession and that everything is perfectly fine.... vote for him….. meanwhile everybody in the country, all of the other parties, and the rest of the entire world was telling him otherwise.

Then he gets into power and admits we're heading into a recession..... then while every other country is working on stimulus plans to try and reduce the impact, what did Harper do?

He put out a budget that was to gut all of his competition to the point of bankruptcy so he wouldn’t have any competition and thus, rule with an iron fist and either force another election, or the other parties formed a Coalition to avoid an election…. Then he abuses our democratic system by proroguing Parliament to avoid both which bought him time to whip up a budget that included a stimulus package that he was told was needed before the last election.

If the NDP or even the Liberals were in power at the time, we would have been on track sooner to recovery.

There’s no denying Harper got us through the recession?

What the hell is wrong with you?


If it wasn't for the other parties bashing him over the head, nothing would have been done and we'd probably be a 3rd world country by now with Harper ruling as king with his fancy crown made out of toonies & loonies.

Good frickin' grief.

 

[Praxius]

Right, floss - telling people how they should vote - just like a politician. Nothing wrong with stating your views but you have no business telling anyone how they should or should not vote - that is up to the individual, IMHO.

Should isn't the same thing as "Must"..... or sticking a gun to your head and forcing you to vote a certain way.

Though if Harper has his way, we'd be forced at gun point to vote for his party..... after all, democracy is an obstacle in the way of his dictatorship.

..... Good frickin' grief.

What's the matter?

Can't refute facts?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Yes you have to admit ! Its working for him but don't underestimate the issues ! His campain was on the mark on the issues . Harper acted like there were no issues and Iggy well hes so far off the mark on what canadians want to talk about during this celection he 's almost laughable. Seriously Iggy!? Day care ? thats what you think we worry about?


I'm not a doctor but I think if you have no prostate your balls are prety much useless! OK maybe thats in bad taste! From one Jack to another I say "GO Jack!"

I'm sure Jack would be really happy to be endorsed by a guy who uses a swastika to label that which he disagrees with and who can't spell:

• campain campaign
• celection election
• canadians Canadians
• prety Pretty

You any relation to Dave (Doc Dred)?

Education. Get some!