Markets take notice as polls find NDP support growing

Praxius

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CTV 2011 Federal Election | Markets take notice as polls find NDP support growing

With the latest polls suggesting that Jack Layton and his New Democratic Party are reaching unprecedented levels of national support, investors are starting to take notice.

The markets seem to have largely ignored this election, notes BMO Nesbitt Burns deputy chief economist Douglas Porter in a note to clients. But he says that the recent polls suggest the country could see "a significant shift next Monday."

According to the latest polls, support for the Conservatives is largely unchanged, but the NDP has moved into second place. Based on those numbers, EKOS Research is projecting the Tories' seat count fall while the NDP's seat count soars -- perhaps high enough to give Layton a working majority in the House of Commons.

"While the market has all but ignored the election, we could see a significant shift next Monday, if these polls are remotely accurate (admittedly a big "if", although they are consistently pointing in the same direction)," Porter write in his morning note to clients.

"While that's certainly an ‘interesting' result, it's not exactly market-friendly. In other words, hang onto your hats!"

At Scotia Capital, economists Derek Holt, Karen Cordes Woods, and Gorica Djeric also noted that their global clients have been asking for updates about the federal election.

They note that they normally treat polls as "noise" since polls assess votes, but don't necessarily give indications about the distribution of seats, and therefore which party will form the next government.

"In short, while we again caution that share of vote doesn't necessarily mean anything in terms of the share of seats which is the only thing that matters, the outcome is looking like it may well yield another minority Conservative government following the fourth election in 11 years, but with the NDP rising at the expense of the BQ and Green Party," the Scotia Capital note reads.

The Scotia Capital note quotes the latest Nanos Research poll conducted for CTV and The Globe and Mail, which puts NDP support at 23.6 per cent.

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So they don't exactly explain which direction this "Shift" would take.... not that it really matters since the market is basically a rich-man's lottery, but yet another sign that the old saying the Libs & Cons have said for years "A vote for any other party other then us is a throw away vote" no longer applies, and the NDP are actually getting noticed, not to mention, becoming a more favoured choice as time progresses. It’s starting to sound like we’re finally going to have a “Real Democracy” in Canada, where it’s no longer going to be just a two-party system.

It’s just too bad I’m not eligible to vote this time around, which is a tad screwed since I’m still a Canadian Citizen and I should have the right to vote, but that’s a different topic I suppose.
 

damngrumpy

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I think it is the time for change and change we may well have it all depends on whether the
Liberal vote holds or collapses by the weekend. There are signs that might happen as the
poll coming out tomorrow morning from Angus Reid shows the Conservatives have come
down to 35% the NDP is now at 30% and the Liberal Party has sunk to 22%. Interesting
fact is the undecided vote is coming down to around ten percent with women and young
people going to the NDP. The big orange wave is not letting up it gains ground daily and if
they can grow it to Friday or Saturday then anything is possible.
 

wulfie68

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The markets won't react favourably to a scenario that sees the NDP in a leadership role. Now some of you like to discount the markets and the private sector as parasites on us but they have a very large place in our economy and thus our society. If the markets tank, the whole country feels it, from weakness in the dollar which means a higher price at the store for any imported goods, to decreased consumer confidence which affects anyone in the retail/service sector and so on. And this isn't getting into the ramifications on national unity and the regional divisions of a party in power whose agenda is based appeasing Torontonians, Vancouverites and now apparently some Quebecers...

The NDP isn't a throw away vote, but its not one for positive change in Canada.
 

DurkaDurka

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The markets won't react favourably to a scenario that sees the NDP in a leadership role. Now some of you like to discount the markets and the private sector as parasites on us but they have a very large place in our economy and thus our society. If the markets tank, the whole country feels it, from weakness in the dollar which means a higher price at the store for any imported goods, to decreased consumer confidence which affects anyone in the retail/service sector and so on. And this isn't getting into the ramifications on national unity and the regional divisions of a party in power whose agenda is based appeasing Torontonians, Vancouverites and now apparently some Quebecers...

The NDP isn't a throw away vote, but its not one for positive change in Canada.

If the NDP somehow secures enough votes to form a government, they will have to govern much like the conservatives did for a while, by compromise and by the issue.
 

Avro

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Pull your money out and hide yourself under your bed with it.......won't someone please think of the bankers and children.....hide your kittens and puppies....Chavez.....er Layton is coming for you and yours.....MMMMWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
 

Mowich

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Pull your money out and hide yourself under your bed with it.......won't someone please think of the bankers and children.....hide your kittens and puppies....Chavez.....er Layton is coming for you and yours.....MMMMWWWWHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

You have such a wonderful way with words, Av...........Chavez indeed. He who laughs last......laughs best, thus I will save my chortling for the final count.
 

Newvoter

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If the NDP somehow secures enough votes to form a government, they will have to govern much like the conservatives did for a while, by compromise and by the issue.

Good point. I've heard a lot of lefty's saying Layton is the best of the left but they're not pleased with an NDP gov. I hope this is a nice wake-up call to lefty Canadians like this to pay a little closer attention to politics at home. If they're not going to feel comfortable, perhaps they'll be encouraged to pay attention and get active.
 

lone wolf

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I think you may have been hearing a lot of "lefties" saying it's time to start getting the weight off a top-heavy economy and let things even out a bit. Investors are in it for what they get out of it. They don't care if it's made in Canada or made in India - as long as it makes a buck for them.
 

bill barilko

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Pull your money out and hide yourself under your bed with it.......won't someone please think of the bankers and children.....hide your kittens and puppies....Chavez.....er Layton is coming for you and yours.....
A person should always have something to look forward to!

If an NDP gubmint means an end to money-as-god big business ass kissing so much the better.
 

Praxius

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Perhaps the markets will flake a little bit in hearing the NDP taking over or gaining more power..... but like always, they'll soon see that it's not as horrible as the Cons and Libs will have you think, trade and jobs will remain much the same (or better) and the market will return to normal, or get better..... frig, if some oil boss sneezes, the markets jump. It's no concern.