Anybody watching the new Sun News Media on TV?

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I was at my Moms for a visit and she truned it on and in the first minute they were trying to split the vote with the Liberals and NDP.

Well played Fox....er....Sun news.....well played.

Stewart/Colbert ratings just got a boost.
 

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Ezra Levant as a nationally-renowned champion of free speech? LOL

Who do these people think they are kidding?

I feel so dirty after watching that.
 

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Ezra Levant as a nationally-renowned champion of free speech? LOL

Who do these people think they are kidding?

I feel so dirty after watching that.
Of course you would.....exactly the reaction I expected from you...
 

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Let me guess, he's just a hater. Right?

The whole George Galloway fiasco pretty much puts him in a bad light because Ezra decided pre-emptively that Galloway should not have any free speech in Canada. Galloway was later admitted into Canada by courts when they found out he wasn't actually the terrorist that our immigration officer thought he was, lol.

The worst part about that is the hypocrisy that stems from his admission that anyone who's not Canadian doesn't deserve free speech in Canada. This led to his conclusion of denial of Galloway's free speech, but later he led a university speaking tour with Ann Coulter (also not a Canadian). So 'free speech' in his case, is limited to people he favours.

Which is not the kind of free speech a good bear should be endorsing. ;)
 
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The whole George Galloway fiasco pretty much puts him in a bad light because Ezra decided pre-emptively that Galloway should not have any free speech in Canada.
That isn't obstructing free speech. Galloway is a terrorist bag man. Why he's still free, is beyond me.

The worse hypocrisy stems from his admission that anyone who's not Canadian doesn't deserve free speech.
I wasn't aware that he said that.

Do you have a link to a transcript, link to a vid or something?

Which is not the kind of free speech a bear should be endorsing. ;)
It isn't.
 

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Do you have a link to a transcript, link to a vid or something?

I agree that it is not a free speech issue if you are denied entry to the country on legitimate grounds. And Ezra initially made that completely reasonable claim. But he later spun that into some tripe about not being Canadian. And it's this sort of nationalism which really worries me.

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"Good friends, and friends of freedom of speech say I'm not being consistent -- that I should be for Galloway's right to be wrong. I am; I don't think he should be arrested for being a racist, terrorist-loving buffoon. I think he should be arrested for raising money for a criminal terrorist organization. That's not speech I'm against, that's fundraising for terrorism I'm against.

But that's not my main point: my main point is that Galloway has no "right" to come to Canada. He's not Canadian.

I'm all for his free speech -- elsewhere."
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Coulter is also, not Canadian. But Ezra had no problem parading her around to indoctrinate students, while enforcing an illegitmate ban on Galloway. As I mentioned, that ban was later lifted by our own federal court which deemed that Galloway was not funding terrorism, nor did he have any intention to fund terrorism.

 

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I agree that it is not a free speech issue if you are denied entry to the country on legitimate grounds. And Ezra initially made that completely reasonable claim. But he later spun that into some tripe about not being Canadian. And it's this sort of nationalism which really worries me.
That's not nationalism, that's the law. Canada can and has stopped a litany of people from entering the country. Galloway and his supporters, were just loud about it.

"Good friends, and friends of freedom of speech say I'm not being consistent -- that I should be for Galloway's right to be wrong. I am; I don't think he should be arrested for being a racist, terrorist-loving buffoon. I think he should be arrested for raising money for a criminal terrorist organization. That's not speech I'm against, that's fundraising for terrorism I'm against. But that's not my main point: my main point is that Galloway has no "right" to come to Canada. He's not Canadian. I'm all for his free speech -- elsewhere."
What's wrong with that statement?

Coulter is also, not Canadian.
Who has never aided, or assisted, or spoken out on behalf of listed terrorist groups.

As I mentioned, that ban was later lifted by our own federal court which deemed that Galloway was not funding terrorism, nor did he have any intention to fund terrorism.
Because the Judge felt it was about the message, and dismissed the case after the gov't back peddled. In his decision, he stated had there been no gov't interference, he would have found for the CBSA. That's not the same as Galloway having his position vindicated.

Regardless, I will always side with the law, especially on matters involving free speech, and in this case, I agree with the Judge, that the gov't moved to ban Galloway for the message and not the allegations against him. So I concede to you here.
 

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Before we get to far off the thread track. I find Sun TV strangely benign after the first week. It maybe a case of diversion when you consider how strident the Toronto Sun has become on the right side of the issues. Maybe its just the election or maybe its a case of procurring an audience but Sun TV News seems pretty vanilla.
 

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Before we get to far off the thread track. I find Sun TV strangely benign after the first week. It maybe a case of diversion when you consider how strident the Toronto Sun has become on the right side of the issues. Maybe its just the election or maybe its a case of procurring an audience but Sun TV News seems pretty vanilla.
I'd be leaning to the latter ww. I'm sure they'll gradually raise the rhetoric, so slowly that it may go unnoticed to the casual watcher.
 

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I think Sun tv needs a couple of anchor type personalities that will draw the crowds to their network.

I'm not sur who this could be but Ezra doesnt quite make the grade as the anchor. Maybe if they had some hot smart witty chick ??
 

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I'm not sur who this could be but Ezra doesnt quite make the grade as the anchor. Maybe if they had some hot smart witty chick ??

That would probably work. Given the folks I know that would be into Sun TV, stimulating discussion generally isn't their thing.
 

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That excludes Coulter.

Well, I think I would put her name on the long list of candidates.
She would certainly be controversial, has lots of opinions??
She would probably attract a lot of viewers, viewers is what makes money, you can always compromise your principles a little bit to make money,,eh??