Canada's Federal Election Polls
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I was listening to a poll focused on voters too apathetic to vote, and they found the number one cause was belief by the apathetics that their vote would not count.
The irony was, the majority of the apathetics said they'd vote Green if they thought it would make a difference, such that when the numbers were tallied, it turns out they'd probably get about as many seats in parliament as the NDP if they'd all turn out.
This implies that parties like Reformacon would *not* want to see something similar to the Australian system, where people must vote or they get a $15 fine.
Then the Greens should be running around in a bus sized Prius picking people up and taking them to the polling stations.
That makes sense to me. Obviously many of these people have contempt for the mainstream parties............but I don't think that would solves most of the problems. From what I can gather "Green" has one main focus, but what would be the use of being Green while we are starving to death. What would be Green's influence on the International scene? How would Green deal with the contraversy with the military?
I just looked over their 12 page platform and agree with it (what sane person wouldn't) A lot of it is good stuff, finding new energy sources, recycling etc. But there are flaws too, organic farming is excellent for the home vegetable patch, but it's been reported over and over by reputable scientists that it won't work as far as feeding the world is concerned. They allude to generating "green jobs", but no mention of how they are going to do this. We can replant forests and work at killing the Mountain Pine Beetle but they're moot points if there is no market for our wood. Several items in their platform coincide with the
Conservative philosophy. Freight trains, going the way of the Dodo bird because customers want faster delivery. Good ideas for sure Cliff, but the plan needs a lot of fine tuning before they qualify to be Gov't. Hope I'm not p*ssing on your day.
Not at all. I don't see them forming a government, but like the NDP, they could be a valuable asset to Canada as backup and instigators that influence government policy for the better. We need a dozen or so Greens to be in the governments face when it gets too far off track (kinda like the Cons are on environmental issues).
I know some people in the Green party, and actually you just touched on something that bugs them, which is that of being pegged as a single-issue party.
They're actually one of the most motley crews you'll have ever seen, but most of them fall into one of two major "planks" within their platform.
What they all have in common is the concept of "sustainability".
One major "plank" is focused on environmental sustainability; they hate the way we're driving over the cliff of global warming. The other is focused on economic sustainability; they hate financial bubbles like the one that plowed us into the recession we're still in.
It's funny to watch them in their meetings, because you'll have calico-and-lace clad earth-lovers sitting at a table with pin-striped spread-sheet readers, but they've come up with some cool ideas for how to make a profit out of returning the biosphere to stability.
You're thinking that they're about depriving people of jobs, which would lead to starvation because of no money to buy food, but they're seeing it as feeding people by putting those who lost manufacturing jobs to China to work growing organic food - which is more labor intensive than industrial farming.
In terms of defense, they're not the peaceniks you think... not all of them. You'd be surprised how many of them are very strait-forward about things like using the nuclear-shield protecting north America as defense of organic farmlands against the ravages of a starving planet, or how many of them think tactical strikes should be done against major carbon emitters in foreign nations.
April 13
The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 13th (n=1,201; committed voters only n=1019). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters (n=1,200).
Canada (n=1020 committed voters)
Conservative 38.7% (-0.2)
Liberal 28.8% (-2.3)
NDP 18.6% (+0.3)
Bloc Quebecois 9.0% (+1.5)
Green 3.7% (+0.6)
*Undecided 15.0% (-0.2)
The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 13th (n=1,201; committed voters only n=1019). *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters (n=1,200).
Canada (n=1020 committed voters)
Conservative 38.7% (-0.2)
Liberal 28.8% (-2.3)
NDP 18.6% (+0.3)
Bloc Quebecois 9.0% (+1.5)
Green 3.7% (+0.6)
*Undecided 15.0% (-0.2)
That should work well..................as long as you don't start believing your lies. :smile:
Again and I have said it before, I believe the Conservatives have peaked in the race.
This demonstrates the public does not want to give anyone a majority this time.
Liberals are consistent and more people are looking at Layton than ever before.
No I am not saying the NDP will be the official opposition its just that people are no
longer afraid to vote NDP as opposed to Liberal. The Greens are pretty much a
spent force in my opinion. May couldn't lead a dog to a lamp post or fire hydrant.
Undecideds are still fairly high and that does not bode well for the governing party
in this kind of an election, there peak numbers were in those undecideds in my
opinion. We will know more by the end of next week as the undecideds begin to
shrink. Anyway I have been invited to give analysis again on Radio in Kelowna on
AM 1150 news talk. Should be an interesting night.
This demonstrates the public does not want to give anyone a majority this time.
Liberals are consistent and more people are looking at Layton than ever before.
No I am not saying the NDP will be the official opposition its just that people are no
longer afraid to vote NDP as opposed to Liberal. The Greens are pretty much a
spent force in my opinion. May couldn't lead a dog to a lamp post or fire hydrant.
Undecideds are still fairly high and that does not bode well for the governing party
in this kind of an election, there peak numbers were in those undecideds in my
opinion. We will know more by the end of next week as the undecideds begin to
shrink. Anyway I have been invited to give analysis again on Radio in Kelowna on
AM 1150 news talk. Should be an interesting night.
Now I am in a real quandary, as I've been saying here all along that Canada would do best with another Conservative minority and economically and financially I think that is still the case. However my view of Harper has suddenly dropped from moderate contempt to absolute disgust after reading what the bastard did to Helena Guergis. I know politics is a cut throat vicious game, but you don't do what he did to another human being and stand there with that supercilious smug look on his face. I can't stomach Ignatieff, so I may have to start taking a hard look at Tallyman Jack, hoping he would get in with a one seat minority. One thing for sure he'd try hard for the first few months. Tonight I'm confused. :-(
April 14
The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 14th (n=1,200; committed voters only n=1020. *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters (n=1,200).
Canada (n=1017 committed voters)
Conservative 38.8% (+0.1)
Liberal 28.8% (NC)
NDP 19.2% (+0.6)
Bloc Quebecois 8.5% (-0.5)
Green 3.4% (-0.3)
*Undecided 15.3% (+0.3)
The numbers in parentheses denote the change from the three day rolling average of the Nanos Nightly Tracking ending on April 14th (n=1,200; committed voters only n=1020. *Undecided represents respondents who are not committed voters (n=1,200).
Canada (n=1017 committed voters)
Conservative 38.8% (+0.1)
Liberal 28.8% (NC)
NDP 19.2% (+0.6)
Bloc Quebecois 8.5% (-0.5)
Green 3.4% (-0.3)
*Undecided 15.3% (+0.3)
I think that is the highest the NDP have ever been ever after the BC potheads joined the party last time.
Most people who have been living under the illusion that there are only two evils to vote for would be confused when presented with the possibility of a third choice. Nobody has thought the NDP would ever had a chance to form a federal government, but the disgust with both Liberals and Conservatives may just make it a possibility. I hope the undecided see that choice and go for it. Jack is a viable alternative to being under the thumb of corporate dictatorship.
