Is Fukushima About to Blow?
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I would hope a lot of agencies have input to stuff like that. Not saying their recommendations can't be over-ridden. It is the UN that supplies the 'permits' isn't it? Who decided one in California should be right over a fault line (or was the emergency response headquarters?)
The plant is on nuclear steroids, not nuclear viagra. It has been in meltdown for some time, evacuation zones are usually set up a few late rather than a few days prior. Take it from there.
Sounds like the perfect place to take it from. Evacuation zones are usually set up a few days late you say... OK...
Q: When was the evacuation zone set up?
A: The day of the earthquake
Conclusion: if evacuation zones are set up a few days after a nuclear power plant has reached a critical state, the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant was in meltdown before the earthquake. Makes sense.
So the danger today is the same as it was on the 12th (which is as close as I have come to putting an evac because of an explosion at the plant)? That doesn't sound plausible. Your description would require being able to predict the future, expanding the zone to 30km two days before it became dangerous might be well past the two days because they intentionally hold back from implementation of the best safety measures compared to the least expensive.. Some would call that careless, some would call it criminal. No doubt the zone would have been under evac condition from the wave by itself and the damaged plant lasted only one day later.
http://www.japan.org/tags/evacuation-zone
Well I made it to/from and along the way met an old friend I hadn't seen in ages sitting on a sunny bench near Science World-a wonderful surprise.
Great time catching up/exchanging email addies-these are the things that matter in life.
Great time catching up/exchanging email addies-these are the things that matter in life.
But it's the only reasonable conclusion based on your premise that they create these evacuation zones a few days too late. You told me to take if from there and I did. Since they haven't expanded the evacuation zone in a month, I guess I shouldn't be asking if it's been a few hours yet but if it's been a few days yet.
So has it been a few days yet?
Magnitude 6.0 - EASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN
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What is alarming is that these latest quakes are underneath Fukushima, wheras the original quake was far out to sea. There is less chance of a tsunami, but clearly the shaking at the reactor site is very intense!
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Fukushima Radiation Taints US Milk Supplies at Levels 300% Higher Than EPA Maximums
Tuesday, 12 April 2011 07:02
'The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) continues to release new data showing that various milk and water supply samples from across the US are testing increasingly high for radioactive elements such as Iodine-131, Cesium-134, and Cesium-137, all of which are being emitted from the ongoing Fukushima Daiichia nuclear fallout.
As of April 10, 2011, 23 US water supplies have tested positive for radioactive Iodine-131, and worst of all, milk samples from at least three US locations have tested positive for Iodine-131 at levels exceeding EPA maximum containment levels.'
Read more: Fukushima Radiation Taints US Milk Supplies at Levels 300% Higher Than EPA Maximums
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What is alarming is that these latest quakes are underneath Fukushima, wheras the original quake was far out to sea. There is less chance of a tsunami, but clearly the shaking at the reactor site is very intense!
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Fukushima Radiation Taints US Milk Supplies at Levels 300% Higher Than EPA Maximums
Tuesday, 12 April 2011 07:02
'The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) continues to release new data showing that various milk and water supply samples from across the US are testing increasingly high for radioactive elements such as Iodine-131, Cesium-134, and Cesium-137, all of which are being emitted from the ongoing Fukushima Daiichia nuclear fallout.
As of April 10, 2011, 23 US water supplies have tested positive for radioactive Iodine-131, and worst of all, milk samples from at least three US locations have tested positive for Iodine-131 at levels exceeding EPA maximum containment levels.'
Read more: Fukushima Radiation Taints US Milk Supplies at Levels 300% Higher Than EPA Maximums
Since it isn't my money being spent why aren't the authorities demanding all farmers in the zone they established planting hemp as a means to start cleaning up what is already there. Establishing a zone in the first place should have been th call to spread the seeds and get out. Months later those seeds have started to grow and break down the contaminants. Naturally somebody would be paying the farmers and land owners for the use of their land. Wait too long and how do you plant the hemp, other than with water bombers? With this upgraded to a 7, shouldn't the zone be 'updated' also.
What is the event you are looking for before you would tell them it is time to book it? Or should they stay inside their houses until the sound to leave, at which point they have to evac through a hot zone undoing all the good that has been done by staying indoors?
Did you see the vid of people going into the abandoned area? How about the one for entering the tomb in the Ukraine, a little older but they used something like stretch and seal even after having their 'white coveralls on'. Is that how the ones living in the area should protect themselves rather than trying to seal up the house you seal off the body as much as possible from dust? If the dust is dangerous then the mouth, nose, eyes and ears all should have 'dust protection'. At what point would you advise people to start taking such 'extra-ordinary' precautions?
Say all the updated safe radiation levels turn out to be perfectly safe, all that means is that we have been lied too in the past, being sold a bogus set of stringent and needlessly expensive construction costs as we could all have a N powered car that came filled at the factory and is good for 30,000 years of 'juice'. The size id a sewing thimble and covered with a thin film of something, All for $10.99/ mo. Then when the babies start coming out like they do in Iraq you can issue the 'alarm', who is that really helping in the end?
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Over the long term, the big threat to human health is cesium-137, which has a half-life of 30 years.
At that rate of disintegration, John Emsley wrote in “Nature’s Building Blocks” (Oxford, 2001), “it takes over 200 years to reduce it to 1 percent of its former level.”
It is cesium-137 that still contaminates much of the land in Ukraine around the Chernobyl reactor.
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Cesium-137 mixes easily with water and is chemically similar to potassium. It thus mimics how potassium gets metabolized in the body and can enter through many foods, including milk.
Radioactive caesium and iodine has been deposited in northern Japan far from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, at levels that were considered highly contaminated after Chernobyl.
The readings were taken by the Japanese science ministry, MEXT, and reveal high levels of caesium-137 and iodine-131 outside the 30-kilometre evacuation zone, mostly to the north-north-west.
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After the 1986 Chernobyl accident, the most highly contaminated areas were defined as those with over 1490 kilobecquerels (kBq) of caesium per square metre. Produce from soil with 550 kBq/m2 was destroyed.
People living within 30 kilometres of the plant have evacuated or been advised to stay indoors. Since 18 March, MEXT has repeatedly found caesium levels above 550 kBq/m2 in an area some 45 kilometres wide lying 30 to 50 kilometres north-west of the plant. The highest was 6400 kBq/m2, about 35 kilometres away, while caesium reached 1816 kBq/m2 in Nihonmatsu City and 1752 kBq/m2 in the town of Kawamata, where iodine-131 levels of up to 12,560 kBq/m2 have also been measured. “Some of the numbers are really high,” says Gerhard Proehl, head of assessment and management of environmental releases of radiation at the International Atomic Energy Agency.
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/03/30/cesium-fallout-fukushima-rivals-chernobyl-12442/At that rate of disintegration, John Emsley wrote in “Nature’s Building Blocks” (Oxford, 2001), “it takes over 200 years to reduce it to 1 percent of its former level.”
It is cesium-137 that still contaminates much of the land in Ukraine around the Chernobyl reactor.
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Cesium-137 mixes easily with water and is chemically similar to potassium. It thus mimics how potassium gets metabolized in the body and can enter through many foods, including milk.
Radioactive caesium and iodine has been deposited in northern Japan far from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, at levels that were considered highly contaminated after Chernobyl.
The readings were taken by the Japanese science ministry, MEXT, and reveal high levels of caesium-137 and iodine-131 outside the 30-kilometre evacuation zone, mostly to the north-north-west.
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After the 1986 Chernobyl accident, the most highly contaminated areas were defined as those with over 1490 kilobecquerels (kBq) of caesium per square metre. Produce from soil with 550 kBq/m2 was destroyed.
People living within 30 kilometres of the plant have evacuated or been advised to stay indoors. Since 18 March, MEXT has repeatedly found caesium levels above 550 kBq/m2 in an area some 45 kilometres wide lying 30 to 50 kilometres north-west of the plant. The highest was 6400 kBq/m2, about 35 kilometres away, while caesium reached 1816 kBq/m2 in Nihonmatsu City and 1752 kBq/m2 in the town of Kawamata, where iodine-131 levels of up to 12,560 kBq/m2 have also been measured. “Some of the numbers are really high,” says Gerhard Proehl, head of assessment and management of environmental releases of radiation at the International Atomic Energy Agency.
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Worst nuclear disaster ever!
Japanese Commission: Nuclear Crisis as Bad as Chernobyl
Apr. 11 2011 - 7:42 pm | 1,370 views | 0 recommendations | 0 comments
By OSHA GRAY DAVIDSON
International Nuclear Event Scale
The Japanese Nuclear Safety Commission (JNSC) has decided to raise the threat level posed by the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi (FDI) nuclear power plant to equal the 1986 disaster at Chernobyl, according to the state-run television network, NHK.
Previously, the commission held that the amount of radiation released from FDI warranted only a level 5 designation on the International Nuclear Event Scale (which runs from 1 to 7). The 1979 U.S. meltdown at Three Mile Island is also rated a five.
Although the commission believes the total amount of radioactive material released into the environment in Japan is less than what was released from Chernobyl, it now considers the amount sufficient to warrant the highest possible designation because of two additional factors.
Japanese Commission: Nuclear Crisis as Bad as Chernobyl
Apr. 11 2011 - 7:42 pm | 1,370 views | 0 recommendations | 0 comments
By OSHA GRAY DAVIDSON
International Nuclear Event ScaleThe Japanese Nuclear Safety Commission (JNSC) has decided to raise the threat level posed by the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi (FDI) nuclear power plant to equal the 1986 disaster at Chernobyl, according to the state-run television network, NHK.
Previously, the commission held that the amount of radiation released from FDI warranted only a level 5 designation on the International Nuclear Event Scale (which runs from 1 to 7). The 1979 U.S. meltdown at Three Mile Island is also rated a five.
Although the commission believes the total amount of radioactive material released into the environment in Japan is less than what was released from Chernobyl, it now considers the amount sufficient to warrant the highest possible designation because of two additional factors.
- The scale of the damage to the nuclear facility (four reactors were damaged at FDI).
- The number of people exposed to radiation.
Nothing to see here, (literally) move along (for your own good), might I suggest Hudson's Bay Canada.
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When you decide to ramble on some tangential thought, can you not quote me before doing it? This doesn't have anything to do with what I've been saying and I get alerts telling me you "replied" to my post when you made no real reply whatsoever. Thanks in advance.
Worst nuclear disaster ever!
Japanese Commission: Nuclear Crisis as Bad as Chernobyl
Apr. 11 2011 - 7:42 pm | 1,370 views | 0 recommendations | 0 comments
By OSHA GRAY DAVIDSON
The Japanese Nuclear Safety Commission (JNSC) has decided to raise the threat level posed by the crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi (FDI) nuclear power plant to equal the 1986 disaster at Chernobyl, according to the state-run television network, NHK.
Previously, the commission held that the amount of radiation released from FDI warranted only a level 5 designation on the International Nuclear Event Scale (which runs from 1 to 7). The 1979 U.S. meltdown at Three Mile Island is also rated a five.
Although the commission believes the total amount of radioactive material released into the environment in Japan is less than what was released from Chernobyl, it now considers the amount sufficient to warrant the highest possible designation because of two additional factors.
The JNSC is due to hold a press conference soon to announce the change. It will be broadcast by NHK, here.
- The scale of the damage to the nuclear facility (four reactors were damaged at FDI).
- The number of people exposed to radiation.
Now it's officially been a few hours? It doesn't matter that so many of you were wrong about this for a month. You still got your Chernobyl II which, let's face it, is exactly what you were wishing for.
Nope, but I didn't have any thinly veiled any secret wish for colossal humanitarian disasters to project on to the situation.
Do you think anyone could have any reasonable expectations with the way the media has been teeter-tottering on this?
Japan’s Fukushima fallout is serious, but it’s not Chernobyl
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This is such bull$hit.
What did you expect? Daffodils and daisies to come out of 4 destroyed burning reactors?[/QUOTE
Would you like to comment on your "thinly veiled secret wish for colossal humanitarian disasters" in light of the present unfolding colossal human disaster.Can you be held responsible given the evidence here in this discourse?
I can speak from experience when I say it's not rad going over 20 rads.
(100rad = 1Gy)
Go figure?
(100rad = 1Gy)
The plant was a goner the instant the pumps failed. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of how a reactor works knows excess heat is bad. Especially when it's unexpected, hit by a near record 5 minute quake then trashed by a tsunami, fire and explosions.
Go figure?