Goldstone report on Cast Lead - Repudiated - By Goldstone - If I had of known then???

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I'd prefer not respond to taunts and insults. I try to maintain a certain level of behavior which doesn't including making stuff up about other forum users. You should try it.

Clearly i hurt your feeliings. Regardless here are some points to clarify.

I asked MHZ some questions that pertain to exactly why Israel would not cooperate with a Commission, under the auspices on the UN Human Rights Commission-

In the last 5 years how many reports slammed Israel

How many slammed Arab countries

Was not Libya until recently a member of such Commission?

The UN HRC is slanted & biased beyond belief - but you find the body to be credible - I find the body to be rot thru to the core.

Lastly - Goldstone's report was grossly in error. That must suck.
 

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I asked MHZ some questions that pertain to exactly why Israel would not cooperate with a Commission, under the auspices on the UN Human Rights Commission-
They objected to the fact there was a fact-finding mission at all. All this over a report complied by a Jew who also says he loves Israel. Perhaps they would have preferred North Korea do the report? Their feathers are ruffled because they cannot kill 1400 civilians without having to do a bit of paperwork.

In the last 5 years how many reports slammed Israel
Obviously all of them, that's why they were brought up in the UN, how many got acted on, zero. When abuses (real or imagined) brought allegations that were sinilar they got acted on, in sanctions or by (quick)military action.

How many slammed Arab countries
Not very many, most of the other ones had to do with Africa, which is not Arab. Of all those condemnations how many did Israel lodge herself first.

Was not Libya until recently a member of such Commission?
Is that why Israel hired 50.mercs, including Al Qaeda, to help quell the rebels. In those 'meetings' (which Isreal prevented Canada from attending) there would have been issues and solution examined. Which ones pertained to Libya and of the 'solutions' how many had been implemented? How many has Israel ever adopted?

The UN HRC is slanted & biased beyond belief - but you find the body to be credible - I find the body to be rot thru to the core.
Why didn't we straighten them out on the fact that our Reservations are in compliance with the articles of war/occupation covering internment camps.

Lastly - Goldstone's report was grossly in error. That must suck.
Try keeping up, the Israeli that said he chatted with Goldstone about a retraction was, OMG. lying through his teeth. You should know that as it was posted prior to your post. Just above the one where Bear is mocking the Jewish names, .... again. For your update.
Goldstone won't seek Gaza report nullification - Yahoo! News

In the Post article, Goldstone lauded Israel for conducting dozens of investigations into alleged wrongdoing. In particular, he sighted evidence that a deadly strike that killed more than 20 members of a Palestinian family resulted from faulty intelligence and was not an intentional attack.
Nevertheless, Goldstone said, he did not intend to seek the report's nullification.
"As appears from the Washington Post article, information subsequent to publication of the report did meet with the view that one correction should be made with regard to intentionality on the part of Israel," the judge said. "Further information as a result of domestic investigations could lead to further reconsideration, but as presently advised I have no reason to believe any part of the report needs to be reconsidered at this time."
Yishai told Israel's Army Radio station that he phoned Goldstone to express his appreciation for Goldstone's "courageous" reconsideration of his charges, and to invite him to tour Israel's southern communities that have sustained years of Palestinian rocket fire.
Yishai said Goldstone "as a Jew understands well the story of the Jewish people's suffering ... and it is very important for him to come and see this."
The minister added that Goldstone promised him he would take additional steps to retract his U.N. report.
Also speaking on Army Radio, Danny Gillerman, a former Israeli ambassador to the U.N. who also participated in the phone call, quoted Goldstone as saying he was ready to take steps to change the status of the report, but first wanted to "wait for the dust to settle" following his op-ed article in the Post.
The Geneva-based Human Rights Council has said it will continue to treat the report as a legitimate working document. Spokesman Cedric Sapey told the AP on Monday that Goldstone would have to submit a formal request for the report to be withdrawn.
Last month, a majority of the council's 47 members voted to pass the report up to the General Assembly, recommending the powerful U.N. Security Council be asked to submit it to prosecutors at the International Criminal Court.
Such a move is unlikely to pass the Security Council, where Israel's strongest ally, the United States, has veto power. But the mere suggestion of bringing war crimes charges has infuriated Israel.
 

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Did a Private Meeting Prompt Goldstone To Change His Mind? ? Forward.com

Not being totally familiar with Jewish intimidation techniques but when some others were 'being tuned in' it was a practice for the Jews to only speak in Hebrew (while speaking from a 'raised position'). Doing that to a fellow Jew (who may or may not speak Hebrew) might be the equal of the Mafia putting a horse-head in bed with you. Or even worse speak Hebrew and have it translated into something else for a person who also speaks fluent Hebrew.
 
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I'd prefer not respond to taunts and insults. I try to maintain a certain level of behavior which doesn't including making stuff up about other forum users. You should try it.

So should you. Or would you like to retract all your accusation laid against those that don't believe what you post?

I've asked you nicely EAO, why won't you answer the question? It's the second question I've posed to you, that you have ignored.

Why won't you answer it?
 

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They objected to the fact there was a fact-finding mission at all. All this over a report complied by a Jew who also says he loves Israel. Perhaps they would have preferred North Korea do the report? Their feathers are ruffled because they cannot kill 1400 civilians without having to do a bit of paperwork.

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Minor correction.

Israel did NOT kill 1400 civilians........they killed about 700 Hamas militants (according to Hamas!), and unfortunately also killed 700 civilians Hamas was hiding behind. (which Hamas has admitted doing!)

BIG difference.
 

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Minor correction.

Israel did NOT kill 1400 civilians........they killed about 700 Hamas militants (according to Hamas!), and unfortunately also killed 700 civilians Hamas was hiding behind. (which Hamas has admitted doing!)

BIG difference.
Hamas Casualties in ‘Operation Cast Lead’ – Final Findings and Conclusions | MiddleEasterNet.com by Tal Pavel Ph.D

One story where Hamas admits their numbers ofcivilians killed were lies.

Hamas admits it lied about Cast Lead casualties - Instablogs

IDF releases Cast Lead casualty numbers
 

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The night janitor at a sewage treatment plant is considered to be Hamas, any government employee is Hamas, including Policemen. Does that include any Doctor who treats any government employee. Are you two sharing the same single IQ module? Is the duo officially known as Pete and re-Pete? If you have been outside breathing deeply stop it, as of yesterday.

The Hamas you are looking for are in their tanks and planes and uniforms. Last I saw they had to walk their prisoners around FFS
 

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The night janitor at a sewage treatment plant is considered to be Hamas, any government employee is Hamas, including Policemen. Does that include any Doctor who treats any government employee. Are you two sharing the same single IQ module? Is the duo officially known as Pete and re-Pete? If you have been outside breathing deeply stop it, as of yesterday.

The Hamas you are looking for are in their tanks and planes and uniforms. Last I saw they had to walk their prisoners around FFS
You know exactly what i am referring to - But you obfuscate with blather - As when asked about the UNHRC - how many resolutions targeted Israel - the reply All of them is BS - I would hope for better - You know as well as i that the vast majority were directed at Israel - Why - the UNHRC has a target - and it is Israel.
 

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I said all because there were 3 links, one was a list that somebody had already compiled where Israel was named as the 'aggressor'. Are you saying I should have done the sorting myself before presenting it to you? What was my salary again?
 

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I said all because there were 3 links, one was a list that somebody had already compiled where Israel was named as the 'aggressor'. Are you saying I should have done the sorting myself before presenting it to you? What was my salary again?
I posted 3 links - All killed were not civilians - or were they all civilians?
 

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If two people are in a sentence and one has an IQ of zero and the other has one that is lower than that then that would be, ....wait for it, .... you.
You spelled 'me" wrong.

But that was almost a nice save.
 

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I posted 3 links - All killed were not civilians - or were they all civilians?
Far as I recall 7 were killed in that first incident, 4 from Nepal and the other 3 were from other Nations excluding North America.Two arrested but they claimed to have no knowledge of the incident Not sure who all the ones are after that. I seem to recall something about a policeman but didn't follow the link. Do you want some sort of summary, ...... on the house.

By The Associated Press
KABUL, Afghanistan — Suicide attackers stormed a police compound with AK-47s, grenades and an explosives-rigged ambulance in southern Afghanistan Thursday in an escalation of fighting that coincides with demonstrations — some of them deadly — over the burning of a Quran in Florida.

Six Afghan security troopers died in the attack in Kandahar province.

Riots in the same province incited by the Quran burning killed 10 people on Saturday, part of a wave of protests that has forced international aid organizations and embassies to virtually lock down their facilities for more than a week.

More protests are expected today.

Last month’s book burning at the Gainesville, Florida, church led by the Rev. Terry Jones further inflamed anti-Western sentiment in Afghanistan, where many people were already fed up with the presence of foreign military forces and civilian casualties.

Outrage at the desecration also spurred a deadly assault on a U.N. headquarters in the northern province of Mazar-i-Sharif last week that killed seven staffers.

On Thursday, about 300 teachers, students and clerics gathered outside a Kabul mosque with banners demanding that Jones be prosecuted and that foreign troops withdraw from Afghanistan.
 

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Far as I recall 7 were killed in that first incident,


The bus at the last stop all the children got off - 30 or 40 children. Used an Anti Tank rocket.

Hamas wants another war.

Israeli strikes kill six as Gaza seethes
The attack yesterday on a children’s bus is crossing a line,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in Prague. “The Israeli army responded immediately during the night and will continue to act with determination. Whoever tries to attack and murder children puts his life on the line,” he said.
 

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The bus at the last stop all the children got off - 30 or 40 children. Used an Anti Tank rocket.
You sure, maybe they fired 3 at themselves.
Israel's PM says new defense shield successful - Yahoo! News
PRAGUE – Israel's prime minister has hailed the first successful action of his country's new missile-defense system after it intercepted two missiles fired by militants from the Gaza Strip
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said after a meeting in Prague Thursday that Israel's new "Iron Dome" system — activated in the last few days without proper testing — "intercepted two projectiles successfully."

You spelled 'me" wrong.

But that was almost a nice save.
My bad, lol I seem to have picked up a stutter also.
 

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You sure, maybe they fired 3 at themselves.
Israel's PM says new defense shield successful - Yahoo! News
PRAGUE – Israel's prime minister has hailed the first successful action of his country's new missile-defense system after it intercepted two missiles fired by militants from the Gaza Strip
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said after a meeting in Prague Thursday that Israel's new "Iron Dome" system — activated in the last few days without proper testing — "intercepted two projectiles successfully."


My bad, lol I seem to have picked up a stutter also.

So a scenario
Israel while retaliating against Hamas hits a school bus - 40 children killed - What would be the world reaction and how long would the outrage last

Hamas retaliating against Israel - Hist a school bus - 40 children killed - What would be the world reaction and how long would the outrage last.
 

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So a scenario
Israel while retaliating against Hamas hits a school bus - 40 children killed - What would be the world reaction and how long would the outrage last

Hamas retaliating against Israel - Hist a school bus - 40 children killed - What would be the world reaction and how long would the outrage last.
Why throw in an extra 40 children. I have a question, when was the last time that Hamas had an tank busting weapon that they actually used. All my Hamas lines are down, care to verify if they did actually claim responsibility.?