U.N. Employees Beheaded Over Quran Burning

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I never said it was benign. I said it wasn't as bad as murder. You shouldn't be twisting people's words like that. It's dishonest.
Now I am better informed. That doesn't alter the fact that if you wouldn't do something right in front of somebody else then you probably shouldn't be doing it in the first place. (as far as the burning). Unintended consequences in this case lead to several funerals that may/may not have happened. For us to turn savage we would have to be close to the breaking point (or past if anything sets off a desire to kill NATO personnel. Death would be a step up from burning a book. Wiping out two Nations because of what could be domestic terrorism might bring the locals to a heightened state of anxiety now that we are approaching the decade old mark.


Would the result have been the same if he was a Muslim renouncing his faith rather than it being a person who is considered to be 'clergy'?
 

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For the same reason you wouldn't do it in front of them, it might cause them to become violent to those 'on the same side' and within reach. I doubt they got it from a feed from the local broadcast of the event so you have to consider that aspect, accident or intentional with a predictable response the outcome.

A few 'thugs' could have been sent into a 'peaceful demonstration' with orders to inflame them to violence. Even we have been known to use that tactic as a way to discredit the intentions of the 'mob' when their proper name is the masses.
 

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For the same reason you wouldn't do it in front of them, it might cause them to become violent to those 'on the same side' and within reach.

Wouldn't burning a Quran in front of a potentially violent mob of Muslims increase the possibility of that mob turning violent? Seems to me that if you wanted to burn a Quran, you and everyone would be better off doing it away from any large groups of angry Muslims.
 

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Wouldn't burning a Quran in front of a potentially violent mob of Muslims increase the possibility of that mob turning violent? Seems to me that if you wanted to burn a Quran, you and everyone would be better off doing it away from any large groups of angry Muslims.

Clearly, erecting a mosque in New York is an act of provocation, whilst this is not.
 

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Wouldn't burning a Quran in front of a potentially violent mob of Muslims increase the possibility of that mob turning violent? Seems to me that if you wanted to burn a Quran, you and everyone would be better off doing it away from any large groups of angry Muslims.
A small sacrifice if it saves the lives of innocents. You mean already angry of a mob that goes from totally peaceful to bloodthirsty. I don't have any details on if the whole mob or some infiltrators did the actual killings, do you know?
 

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I have seen almost nothing in the media condemning the murderers who these innocent victims.

It has just been a litany of condemnation of the pastor who burned the Koran. Now i think that was a very irresponsible thing to do. And not in any way reflective of Christ's example to his apostles, which was one of understanding and reason, not confrontation and insult.

However, the preacher is guilty of an irresponsible act, a misdemeanor, that Islamic mob is guilty of lynching, a grave CRIME of murder.

I wonder how the Christian community at large would react if the Bible was burned in Kabul. It likely would not have even be deemed news worthy, and if it were, would have been received with a roll of the eyes.. and a turn of the cheek.

Therein you have the difference between Islam and Christianity.. between a crazed mob, and an enlightened individual.
 
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A small sacrifice if it saves the lives of innocents. You mean already angry of a mob that goes from totally peaceful to bloodthirsty. I don't have any details on if the whole mob or some infiltrators did the actual killings, do you know?

I wouldn't normally comment on grammar but I have no idea what you're trying to say.
 

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Actually the proposterous part is that the wonderful Reverend was on the news today saying that this had nothing to do with him and he felt no responsibility at all.

Everyone's actions have consequences and I think this was the result he desired. He is actually much worse than the rioters because he is the one who incited it all.

As f*cked up and idiotic this fake pastor is, he didn't force these clowns to murder people. They took the inbred pastor's bait and ran with it.
 

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The pastor should be sent to Afghanistan and pray for forgiveness

They don't even compare. That pastor is at least literate and has even likely received a higher education. Many of the attackers were likely illiterates who've never even read the Qur'an. Not to excuse the attackers, but the pastor ought to have known better than to think himself better than those who've never received half the education he'd received.
 

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I wouldn't normally comment on grammar but I have no idea what you're trying to say.
By having the Pastor do it in front of the crowd that would kill over the issue is saving the lives of Nato troops. I would almost bet it would become an issue that isn't worth the bother.