What are they trying to say with this election?

[Ralph B]

Well it seems to me that the May 2nd election has become a poulatity contest!

Stephan Harper says;
If I recieve a manority government I will accept it and move forward however the liberals have already been clear that they will form a coalition to defeat the minority.

Jack Layton says;
I am running for Prime Minister of Canada and am willing to work with whomever to make changes for Canadians ! To assist Canadians with the issues that affect them in everyday life.

Michael Ignatiff says;
I am the only option to defeat the conservitaves. And thier partizan ways.

No where have I actually seen the meat and potatoes of this election. Cons claim that their leadership has maintained a stable economy, and makes Canada the envey of western culture for that stability. My view is they made it in at a conveineant time where they did not adjust the system in place to have our economy fall in the way many others had. If I am not mistaken it was in Jean Chrétiens time where world banks changed policies regarding things such as mortgages that had led to the colapse that occured. Our government chose not to do so. In actual fact Mr Harper walked into a good position, he did not create it with his hard efforts and such, he just inherited it!

No where have the leaders stated what they will do for Canadians, Other than Jack Layton he has stood behind his views as long as I can recall him campaining. He speaks of the views of the actual candidates who we elect in thier ridings. I have heard him quote other members of his party and thier issues. When have we heard Harper or Iggy say their member in such and such riding has this or that issue being brought forth.

From most views the leaders want your support, not you to support your member.

Cast your vote, but only as an informed individual. listen carefully as to what they offer not this redorick of how the other will destroy our world standing.

 

[CDNBear]

Michael Ignatiff says;
I am the only option to defeat the conservitaves. And thier partizan ways.

Iggy and company are just as partisan.

No where have I actually seen the meat and potatoes of this election. Cons claim that their leadership has maintained a stable economy, and makes Canada the envey of western culture for that stability. My view is they made it in at a conveineant time where they did not adjust the system in place to have our economy fall in the way many others had. If I am not mistaken it was in Jean Chrétiens time where world banks changed policies regarding things such as mortgages that had led to the colapse that occured. Our government chose not to do so. In actual fact Mr Harper walked into a good position, he did not create it with his hard efforts and such, he just inherited it!

Cretien had nothing to do with the policies you're talking about. Neither did Harpo for that matter.

No where have the leaders stated what they will do for Canadians, Other than Jack Layton he has stood behind his views as long as I can recall him campaining. He speaks of the views of the actual candidates who we elect in thier ridings. I have heard him quote other members of his party and thier issues. When have we heard Harper or Iggy say their member in such and such riding has this or that issue being brought forth.

Oh so you're a Kneedipper. Good to see there's no agenda in your information gathering and offering.

Cast your vote, but only as an informed individual.

That would mean not listening to you.

listen carefully as to what they offer not this redorick of how the other will destroy our world standing.

That's actually a good idea.

Can you actually do that?

 

[Ralph B]

Iggy and company are just as partisan.

Cretien had nothing to do with the policies you're talking about. Neither did Harpo for that matter.
Oh so you're a Kneedipper. Good to see there's no agenda in your information gathering and offering.

That would mean not listening to you.

That's actually a good idea.

Can you actually do that?

I admit I am not sure when and where the rules changed in areas that was main factor to the colapse, mearly trying to point out that Harper inheirited a good position where he mearly dodges the obstacles to hold stability.

Freedom of speach is our right!
So far all I see is Harper vs. Ignatiff in a name calling competition
Hey seems like your kind of thing go about bashing others for thier views.

 

[CDNBear]

I admit I am not sure when and where the rules changed in areas that was main factor to the colapse, mearly trying to point out that Harper inheirited a good position where he mearly dodges the obstacles to hold stability.

Harper inherited a mess, and an economy in the failing. And yet managed to keep the ship afloat, even with the cheap partisan politicing of the opposition.

Freedom of speach is our right!

So long as it about what you like eh Ralph?

So far all I see is Harper vs. Ignatiff in a name calling competition

Which is all it's been about for years.

Hey seems like your kind of thing go about bashing others for thier views.

Speaking of ill informed. I don't bash others for their views, I bash them for being ideologically driven to ignore reality and post drivel based on said selective reality.

 

[Johnnny]

Is it true when they say paul martin actually didnt do a bad job? I heard he was paying off our deficit, my source would be the people i talk too....

 

[Ralph B]

Harper inherited a mess, and an economy in the failing. And yet managed to keep the ship afloat, even with the cheap partisan politicing of the opposition.

So long as it about what you like eh Ralph?

Which is all it's been about for years.

Speaking of ill informed. I don't bash others for their views, I bash them for being ideologically driven to ignore reality and post drivel based on said selective reality.

I am not hear to argue with you. As you said it has been a battle between the libs and cons for years never for or about the Canadians!
We need this to change, We need Canadians to go to the polls with an Idea of what thier vote will do for them and thier neighbours and families.

Do we want the corporate puppet playing the piano, trying to entertain rather than, work for the people of the country???
Or the they are bad for Canadians aprroch so only other choice is me!! No real solution to help average Canadian.

We need to break away from this type of politics!

 

[CDNBear]

I am not hear to argue with you.

I realize that. You believe that Layton is the end all of political leaders, and you likely have no need for anyone to prove he isn't.

We need this to change, We need Canadians to go to the polls with an Idea of what thier vote will do for them and thier neighbours and families.

And you think voting for a party that has a track record of bankrupting provinces is a good idea?

Do we want the corporate puppet playing the piano, trying to entertain rather than, work for the people of the country???

Any proof at your finger tips that that is true? Or are you just playing the conspiracy fear mongering card now?

We need to break away from this type of politics!

I actually believe that. It's you that doesn't, hence why you think Layton is da bomb.

 

[Ralph B]

I realize that. You believe that Layton is the end all of political leaders, and you likely have no need for anyone to prove he isn't.

When and where have they had a chance to prove that they will not do as they say ???

And you think voting for a party that has a track record of bankrupting provinces is a good idea?

That is in provincial scale not federal politics, They act in their repective jurisdiction! And do as they believe they are mandated to. Please prove otherwise, if we go by that scale the provincial cons Harris government had made many errors, as Miginty, as Bob Rae, who is now a federal liberal! So does this mean federal Liberals willbankrupt Canada with Mr Ray?? It still takes a majority vote in house to make legislation, as far as I know. Main thing leader can do is to review and allow or disallow introduction from party perspective!

I actually believe that. It's you that doesn't, hence why you think Layton is da bomb

So far in question period Mr. Layton has brought forth the issues he has been asked about from the people.

 

[CDNBear]

When and where have they had a chance to prove that they will not do as they say ???

The only positive comment you made in your opening salvo, was about Layton and how in touch with the little guy he is. Exposing your ideological agenda.

That is in provincial scale not federal politics, They act in their repective jurisdiction! And do as they believe they are mandated to.

As would Layton, like all other politicians. The only difference is, none of the other parties believe in giving away the store, so the cradle to grave crowd can live off the backs of the working class. While industry is driven wawy left right and center.

So far in question period Mr. Layton has brought forth the issues he has been asked about from the people.

And no other politician ever has?

 

[taxslave]

Well it seems to me that the May 2nd election has become a poulatity contest!


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From most views the leaders want your support, not you to support your member.

My member can support its self. Yours need viagra?

 

[CDNBear]

My member can support its self. Yours need viagra?

Cold, but damn funny!!!

 

[taxslave]

When and where have they had a chance to prove that they will not do as they say ???


That is in provincial scale not federal politics, They act in their repective jurisdiction! And do as they believe they are mandated to. Please prove otherwise, if we go by that scale the provincial cons Harris government had made many errors, as Miginty, as Bob Rae, who is now a federal liberal! So does this mean federal Liberals willbankrupt Canada with Mr Ray?? It still takes a majority vote in house to make legislation, as far as I know. Main thing leader can do is to review and allow or disallow introduction from party perspective!


So far in question period Mr. Layton has brought forth the issues he has been asked about from the people.

So you are saying that the provincial NDP have a mandate to destroy the economy? Probably explains why thinking people don't want anything to do with them.

 

[Ralph B]

So you are saying that the provincial NDP have a mandate to destroy the economy? Probably explains why thinking people don't want anything to do with them.

Not exactly why not ask Bob Rae where he screwed up?? It was the unions that helped him get in and when he took their path relized that got many upset with him, so he tried to backstep which had unions pull out and confusion took over thus causing the mess. But no matter what was done that cost large it was from things supported and passed in the ontario house. Just Bob was considered in charge so he as leader took blame.

Problem is Politics is a full time position and most followers cannot direct their member on every issue. They can only hope that their member understands their position and acts in the peoples best interest. Unless directed otherwise they support party lines, most have hidden adjendas, and unless thet people watch and hear what they are they will sneak them in! So party line must be considered in making an informed choice. your candidate may pitch a good line but unless you watch that he/she carries it through they may just coast through doing very little other than odd "photo op" to hold position.

End result is we are somewhat to blame for our creations. Unless we remain active whomever we vote in will drop the ball and work on issues that are brought forward, by those that have time to follow. Hence the reasoning for mailings from our reps, but how many really read them and ensure that they are doing what we voted them in to do??

Not only should it be an informed vote, you must voice if you believe that the member goes off track!

 

[CDNBear]

Not exactly why not ask Bob Rae where he screwed up?? It was the unions that helped him get in and when he took their path relized that got many upset with him, so he tried to backstep which had unions pull out and confusion took over thus causing the mess. But no matter what was done that cost large it was from things supported and passed in the ontario house. Just Bob was considered in charge so he as leader took blame.

Yes exactly! His bungling, anti business policies, killed jobs and drove new industry away. Just ask Cessna.

 

[petros]

What they are trying to say is it's either spring or fall because we're due anyway.

 

[lone wolf]

What are they trying to say? Pick me because I'm not the other guy....