Why They All Seem To Hate US

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By Michael Annes

Why does so much of the world, particularly the Muslim world, hate the United States? Why did the 9/11 terrorist attacks happen? A common explanation is that extremist Muslims “hate our freedom” and our way of life, and want to destroy it.

There are a few problems with this theory. It doesn’t explain secular terrorist attacks. Looking at the 462 terrorist attacks between 1980 and 2004, the country with the most suicide bombings was Sri Lanka. Those attacks were committed by the Tamil Tigers, a secular Marxist group that invented the idea of strapping bombs to your chest. It also doesn’t explain the failure of focusing on Western lifestyle’s wickedness and freedom as a recruiting tactic for holy war against the West. For example, Ayatollah Khomeini (the Supreme Leader of Iran between 1979 and 1989) tried during his rule to start a jihad against America because of the supposed immorality of American culture. His efforts failed, as not many people are willing to fight and die because of how strangers halfway around the world live their lives.

So then why do they hate America? One of the main reasons is the U.S. government’s aid to Israel. Israel is seen as invading Muslim holy land, as well as committing terrible crimes against the Palestinians. For example, during Israel’s most recent war, the Israeli military damaged Gaza’s water and sewage treatment facilities, and, through trade restrictions, is preventing the people of Gaza from buying the supplies needed to repair the facilities, forcing Gaza to survive on untreated, disease-ridden water. These and other barbaric tactics incite hatred not only of Israel but also of the United States, because of its strong and unquestioning support of Israel.

Another source of anti-American sentiment is the installation of pro-U.S. puppet governments in Middle Eastern countries. From the former Shah of Iran to the Saudi dictatorship, American puppet states have long incited hatred in the Muslim world. According to Paul Wolfowitz, one of the Bush administration’s most notorious war criminals, “[American] presence [in Saudi Arabia] over the past 12 years has been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly government. It’s been a huge recruiting device for al-Qaeda. In fact if you look at [Osama] bin Laden, one of his principle grievances was the presence of so-called crusader forces on the holy land, Mecca and Medina.” Remember the widespread anger over the “Ground Zero Mosque”? Imagine if, rather than a peaceful mosque, it was an Iranian military base. That’s how people in the Middle East feel.

The number of Muslim civilians killed in American operations is another major source of hatred. This includes not only the current wars, but also the Iraqi trade sanctions during the decade preceding 9/11. For the first eight months of sanctions, Iraq could not even transport food. After that, the U.S. continued to block vital humanitarian goods. Trucks needed to deliver food were blocked, along with pipes needed to transport water. Water tankers were blocked during a time of severe drought. When asked about the hundreds of thousands of children that had died because of these tactics, Madeleine Albright, U.S. ambassador to the UN and, later, Secretary of State during the Clinton administration, replied, “We think the price is worth it.”

We can’t protect ourselves from terrorism by invading countries and allowing innocent civilians to die. Even if some of the people killed are terrorists, many aren’t, and those deaths only provoke more terrorism. We don’t have to get rid of our freedom, religion or our Western culture to stop terrorist attacks; we only need to get rid of the government that creates the hatred that provokes them.
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if it were only that simple.


Americans are also known for trying to push their nose into other countries business when they shouldn't.

they're trying to enforce their beliefs, their ways onto other people and their cultures when they should just stay the hell out!
 
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Chiliagon said:
if it were only that simple.


Americans are also known for trying to push their nose into other countries business when they shouldn't.

they're trying to enforce their beliefs, their ways onto other people and their cultures when they should just stay the hell out!
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I've met quite a few of them and from what I could tell, none of the ones I met were doing that. :smile:
 
Chiliagon

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ok but they are doing it.

I saw a video a while ago where these Christian radicalists from the US Bible Belt were over there talking about how they're trying to get people to convert from Muslim to Christianity..

and I'm like "what makes you think you have the right to tell people or get people to change from Muslim to your religion? Stay out of their country and their beliefs!"
 
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How many of you Canadians think we Americans give a spit about what the world thinks of us? The world is Don Quixote tilting at windmills. The America the world hates is in the process of fighting a form of nonviolent civil war. Americans are simply too occupied to care about the opinions of others.
 
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BaalsTears said:
How many of you Canadians think we Americans give a spit about what the world thinks of us? The world is Don Quixote tilting at windmills. The America the world hates is in the process of fighting a form of nonviolent civil war. Americans are simply too occupied to care about the opinions of others.
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I can tell you one American that I don't care about.
 
Chiliagon

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Some Americans are intelligent....

oh btw, you know that apparently only 5% of Americans have a Passport? I read that somewhere..

it's like they dont' want to leave the comfort of their own mess.. er home.
 
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TenPenny said:
That's quite a defeatest attitude.



You need to learn the attitude of DeGaulle, or Churchill.
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When Alaric sacked Rome the Romans didn't stir from their slumber and decadence because they had lost the capability to do so. The character of the Roman people had changed.

The West no longer produces people like De Gaulle or Churchill because the character of the West has changed. Are you familiar with Jacques Barzun's tome From Dawn To Decadence?
The Ugley Vicar: On finishing Barzun's 'From Dawn to Decadence'

I live in California. The despair here is so palpable it could be cut with a knife.
 
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I wonder when people will get it through their thick heads that generally speaking folks is folks, imaginary lines on the ground don't influence a person's character.
 
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"Americans are simply too occupied to care about the opinions of others"....

More like pre-occupied.....untill those that hate you come a knockin on 9/11. And you STill havn`t shut the **** up about that incident.


BaalsTears said:
How many of you Canadians think we Americans give a spit about what the world thinks of us? The world is Don Quixote tilting at windmills. The America the world hates is in the process of fighting a form of nonviolent civil war. Americans are simply too occupied to care about the opinions of others.
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Chiliagon said:
ok but they are doing it.

I saw a video a while ago where these Christian radicalists from the US Bible Belt were over there talking about how they're trying to get people to convert from Muslim to Christianity..

and I'm like "what makes you think you have the right to tell people or get people to change from Muslim to your religion? Stay out of their country and their beliefs!"
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Right

It's called "the free exchange of ideas". It is a large part of what has made us great, and left Islam behind in the 14th century.........

I deleted the rude bits before I posted....I'm starting to get a little frustrated with wishy-washy relativism.
 
Chiliagon

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Right

It's called "the free exchange of ideas". It is a large part of what has made us great, and left Islam behind in the 14th century.........

I deleted the rude bits before I posted....I'm starting to get a little frustrated with wishy-washy relativism.
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so you're saying that Muslims shouldn't exist?
 
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Chiliagon said:
ok but they are doing it.

I saw a video a while ago where these Christian radicalists from the US Bible Belt were over there talking about how they're trying to get people to convert from Muslim to Christianity..

and I'm like "what makes you think you have the right to tell people or get people to change from Muslim to your religion? Stay out of their country and their beliefs!"
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Yeah and I was on a Canadian forum where this Canadian started a thread stating...

Lady GaGa Has Us Exactly Where She Wants Us
 
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Unforgiven said:
Wir bilden einen lieben Reigen
(We're lining up nicely)
Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen
(Freedom plays on all violins)
Musik kommt aus dem Weißen Haus
(Music comes from the White House)
Und vor Paris steht Mickey Maus
(And before Paris stands Mickey Maus)
(We're all living in Amerika)
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Very cool Unforgiven... Thank you!


Wir bilden einen lieben Reigen
(We're lining up nicely)
Ich werde euch die Richtung zeigen
(I will show you the direction)
Nach Afrika kommt Santa Claus
(Santa Clause is coming to Africa)
Und vor Paris steht Mickey Maus
(And Mickey Mouse is on the outskirts of Paris)
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Hey I wonder if the French would have rather had Mickey Mouse on the outskirts of Paris in 1940 or the Germans?

Chiliagon said:
ok..... :canada:
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It's a true story! He really did. Can you believe that?!
 
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