what makes Teenagers so disruptive,defiant,rebellious?

petros

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Not all sacrifices are weighed equally.

if you do not have a good paying job and you aren't able to get a better job due to skill or lack of experience then you can't do much about it.

if you do have a good paying job and you can reasonably afford to be out on your own but you choose not to be, that's a problem.

you cannot go out on your own if you are not able to make it work! and JUST getting by with nothing but the clothes you have and a bed is not reasonable. you need to be able to live your life and have money to use for your daily life.
Ditching things like cell phone, cable TV a daily coffee, parking the car will pay for your rent and food no problems. If still falling short get an ugly girlfriend with a job.
 

talloola

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teenagers have bundles and bundles of energy, many kinds of energy, and it seems to me that, if parents
create an atmosphere where that energy can be used in a positive and enjoyable manner it helps to
create teenagers who use their time in a good way, and they don't become restless and bored.

We kept our four daughters so busy from the ages of about 6 to 17, sports, music, dance, gyumnastics,at a highly
competetive level, 'they had no time' or energy left to think of doing things that would
get them into trouble, and they 'loved' their activities and were good at all of them, and the only
time they had left, was for studying.

Those activities involved many trips that were fun, and lots of interacting with other kids as
well, but in a fairly controlled atmosphere, and we were with them most of the time, not in an
intrusive way, but 'just' around, because we were involved with most of their activities, either
coaching and managing, or driving and travelling.

They didn't even date very much, once in a while, as their main interests were their activities
and school.
 

Chiliagon

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I suppose so but I believe that when the day comes I will be a good parent. it's going to be some trial and error at first but I will be good.

Ditching things like cell phone, cable TV and a daily coffee, parking the car will pay for your rent and food no problems. If still falling short get an ugly girlfriend with a job.

easy for you to say..
 

Chiliagon

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teenagers have bundles and bundles of energy, many kinds of energy, and it seems to me that, if parents
create an atmosphere where that energy can be used in a positive and enjoyable manner it helps to
create teenagers who use their time in a good way, and they don't become restless and bored.

We kept our four daughters so busy from the ages of about 6 to 17, sports, music, dance, gyumnastics,at a highly
competetive level, 'they had no time' or energy left to think of doing things that would
get them into trouble, and they 'loved' their activities and were good at all of them, and the only
time they had left, was for studying.

Those activities involved many trips that were fun, and lots of interacting with other kids as
well, but in a fairly controlled atmosphere, and we were with them most of the time, not in an
intrusive way, but 'just' around, because we were involved with most of their activities, either
coaching and managing, or driving and travelling.

They didn't even date very much, once in a while, as their main interests were their activities
and school.


YES!, see that's exactly what I mean.

I played hockey from the age of 5 up till 14.. and I played football from 11 to 18 and I had other stuff going on... I didn't have the time to do stupid things that would totally throw me off track or remove me from being able to do those activities.

But I also was a little more mature than a lot of kids and teens back in my day. I knew what was wrong and I avoided it.

the only problem was that it stunted my social and relationship growths because avoiding the wrong and stupid things also caused me to avoid having a lot of friends and any GF's.

I wouldn't take it back though, I don't regret it.
 

petros

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I suppose so but I believe that when the day comes I will be a good parent. it's going to be some trial and error at first but I will be good.



easy for you to say..
There is no trial and error to parenting. You only get one shot.

At least you'd have a girlfriend and a place to make noise. Procrastination is like masturbation, you are only screwing yourself.
 
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Chiliagon

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There is no trial and error to parenting. You only get one shot.

I think perhaps you misunderstand what I mean.

parents when they FIRST become parents are pretty clueless.. and they only know (or think they know) based on what they have seen or on THEIR parents own experiences.

they i'm sure ask a lot of questions.. or they don't ask a lot of questions.

I think a lot of parents, especially fathers avoid asking for advice because they don't want to damage their egos.

yet I believe that they should not be afraid to ask for advice or suggestions. I don't know why people fail to want help.
 

darkbeaver

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Childhood is wasted on children eh. If I had it to do again I would have fifteen or twenty kids and form an organized crime syndicate, or a political party.

I don't really need to know when her periods started, but thanks anyway.
 

eh1eh

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I suppose so but I believe that when the day comes I will be a good parent. it's going to be some trial and error at first but I will be good.



easy for you to say..

I'm sure you will be but don't judge yourself by the outcome necessarily. I have two that were opposites during the teen years though they are both turning out great in later life. So are my two gran-daughters, so far.
 

Chiliagon

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I'm sure you will be but don't judge yourself by the outcome necessarily. I have two that were opposites during the teen years though they are both turning out great in later life. So are my two gran-daughters, so far.

cool..

yea my parents raised myself and my brother (younger) pretty much the same.. but he was a bit younger when the style and discipline methods that they were using began to change.

we're different.
 

talloola

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cool..

yea my parents raised myself and my brother (younger) pretty much the same.. but he was a bit younger when the style and discipline methods that they were using began to change.

we're different.

seems like you had a great childhood and came thru it all with flying colors, there are lots
like you out there, just don't go to the tacky places to look for them, they won't be there.

They will have better places to go.
 

Trotz

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I find it amusing that there are people who had bad parents growing up and wish the same on their children, two wrongs do not make a right.
Only a selfish individual would boot out a kid in our current job and housing market. This is not the 1960s with a thousand well paid factory jobs waiting to be taken!

Keeping them around for another 4-8 years and allowing them to complete an education and career training is a far better investment for them (and to you, if your pension is rendered useless by inflation. Which I hope it does as a lot of assholes in this country are milking the gravy train) than simply kicking them out at magic 18, when a lot of kids still haven't graduated from Highschool nor have yet to attend College.

I've known people who kick out 16 yearold daugthers and sons onto the street, because they were interfering with beer money.

YES!, see that's exactly what I mean.

I played hockey from the age of 5 up till 14.. and I played football from 11 to 18 and I had other stuff going on... I didn't have the time to do stupid things that would totally throw me off track or remove me from being able to do those activities.

But I also was a little more mature than a lot of kids and teens back in my day. I knew what was wrong and I avoided it.

the only problem was that it stunted my social and relationship growths because avoiding the wrong and stupid things also caused me to avoid having a lot of friends and any GF's.

I wouldn't take it back though, I don't regret it.

Of course it's wrong!
I've met plenty of people going into their 30s who are still acting like they are 14. Even then, it's still not uncommon in my parts to find a group of middle aged men in their 40s heckling and howling at 1:00 AM in the morning and hitting on teenage women who happen to walk by.

teenagers have bundles and bundles of energy, many kinds of energy, and it seems to me that, if parents
create an atmosphere where that energy can be used in a positive and enjoyable manner it helps to
create teenagers who use their time in a good way, and they don't become restless and bored.

We kept our four daughters so busy from the ages of about 6 to 17, sports, music, dance, gyumnastics,at a highly
competetive level, 'they had no time' or energy left to think of doing things that would
get them into trouble, and they 'loved' their activities and were good at all of them, and the only
time they had left, was for studying.

Those activities involved many trips that were fun, and lots of interacting with other kids as
well, but in a fairly controlled atmosphere, and we were with them most of the time, not in an
intrusive way, but 'just' around, because we were involved with most of their activities, either
coaching and managing, or driving and travelling.

They didn't even date very much, once in a while, as their main interests were their activities
and school.

A good thing because no one needs to be dating until they have a career and a means to provide for a family, that's not being old fashion but pragmatic with our economy.
 
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gerryh

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I'd add a few things but it appears chilli and taloola have it all figured out as to how to raise teens.:roll:
 

Said1

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and JUST getting by with nothing but the clothes you have and a bed is not reasonable. you need to be able to live your life and have money to use for your daily life.

Hey, I did it, had a blast. You learn to be resourceful, that's how you learn to survive because when you grow up, things happen, like it or not.

Who said no dating until I have a career!!! We all know that's never gonna happen. :lol:

Unless we arent' differentiating between a job and a career.....man, some people's kids.
 

Chiliagon

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I find it amusing that there are people who had bad parents growing up and wish the same on their children, two wrongs do not make a right.
Only a selfish individual would boot out a kid in our current job and housing market. This is not the 1960s with a thousand well paid factory jobs waiting to be taken!

Keeping them around for another 4-8 years and allowing them to complete an education and career training is a far better investment for them (and to you, if your pension is rendered useless by inflation. Which I hope it does as a lot of assholes in this country are milking the gravy train) than simply kicking them out at magic 18, when a lot of kids still haven't graduated from Highschool nor have yet to attend College.

I've known people who kick out 16 yearold daugthers and sons onto the street, because they were interfering with beer money.



Of course it's wrong!
I've met plenty of people going into their 30s who are still acting like they are 14. Even then, it's still not uncommon in my parts to find a group of middle aged men in their 40s heckling and howling at 1:00 AM in the morning and hitting on teenage women who happen to walk by.


What is wrong?