Rick Rypien

petros

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I don't believe that for a minute, juniors are playing to get to the NHL, the NHLers have to play
hard to stay there, same but different, they never stop playing at their best, and if they do, theyare gone.
You are dicounting the benefits of youth. You can play longer with more intensity and if injured you heal a helluva lot faster. Many of the players in the WHL have already been drafted and have already hit the big league.

When was the last time you've been to a WHL game?
 

Kreskin

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Juniors give it their all but their game is slower and less physical than the NHL.
 

talloola

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The money has always been the sore point with me- most others in this country are struggling, while we have 20 year olds earning a $million+ a year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think the rest of us who are struggling SHOULD be able to have the expectation of being able to take their family to a hockey game for a $50 bill. Christ, these guys are earning more than plumbers! :lol:

I don't feel jealous about the money at all, and thats all it is. Don't know why plumbers need to make
so much money either, but good for them, and electricians too, but their careers can span many many
years, not just 10 or 15

All the money and time that has been put into a young boy up till he manages to make the NHL, is huge,
and that spans many years.
The owners and managers have brought the salaries to the level they are at, not the players.
The players do not, and have never decided what they are going to offer, they decide what they
will accept, and they accept what other players of their particular level have received, and that
began with owners and managers competing with each other for players.

If you feel pissed off about the money, then blame yourself and your parents for not getting at up 5 in the
morning for years, and yourself for not wanting to be a hockey player. You chose a different road, not
that one, so be it. Those parents put out lots of money, (which they worked hard for) to support their
sons through childhood and beyond for a chance, (and it is only a chance, as most don't make it), to
become a pro player. Feel good for them, and wish them the best, they are just people like ourselves,
no different.
The building is filled to capacity all the time, the family prices are more for the giants and other
junior teams, and the AHL in abbotsford, so go to those games. It seems you are not really interested
anyway.
There is a junior team in Kelowna, do you go to all of their games?

You are dicounting the benefits of youth. You can play longer with more intensity and if injured you heal a helluva lot faster. Many of the players in the WHL have already been drafted and have already hit the big league.

When was the last time you've been to a WHL game?

Yes, I've watched hundreds of junior games.

The only thing they have that is more than 'some' nhl players is raw energy, but they lack in smarts,
and strength compared to the NHLer, just ask any young NHLer who has recently come into the NHL, he
will tell you that fact, I have heard them explain it exactly that way many times.

Taylor Hall, who is the talented young player on the Edmonton Oilers, is just now beginning to get the
hang of playing on the big team, but for the first few months, he was lacking in everything, now he is
learning how to do it. He is a good example, and he is a very talented player.

He will tell it the same way.

players are bigger, stronger, faster, and smarter, and goaltending is better.
 

Cannuck

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the poor turnout in the south has nothing to do with the quality of the game, basketball and football are
priority in most of those cities, hockey is a game they don't put first.
bettman has tried to thrust our game into those cities and hopes if finally does succeed, it might in
a hand full of cities, but not in most, they are going to support what they have supported for generations,
and hockey isn't part of that.

Nice try but, as usual, you are three steps behind the discussion. There are lots of teams that were doing well 10 - 20 years ago and are not doing well now....and it is not all in the south.

You aren't going to change the tradition of the sports in those cities, so don't try to pass it off as
something it is not, you have to spew that crap to people who don't know, and that is not here.

Since we aren't just talking about the southern teams why don't you make like a good little girl and run along. It's obvious this discussion is a little over your head (a pretty common occurrence)

The game of hockey is fine, very healthy and doing well in all the cities it has always done well in.

Nonsense. It's not doing well in on long Island, St Louis....even Chicago ran out of cash a few times last year. The 16 money losing franchises are not all in the south. In fact one of them is the Sens.

The economy has affected some of them, detroit being one, as michigan is probably the most hardest hit
of all the states, and the red wings are very aware of that, and doing their best to make it easier for
fans to attend games.

The "economy" is not the problem, if it was, half the NBA, NFL and MLB teams would be in the same position s half the NHL teams.

I don't believe that for a minute, juniors are playing to get to the NHL, the NHLers have to play
hard to stay there, same but different, they never stop playing at their best, and if they do, theyare gone.

Ya...sure...Alex Kovalev shows up every night.
 

JLM

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I don't feel jealous about the money at all, and thats all it is. Don't know why plumbers need to make
so much money either, but good for them, and electricians too, but their careers can span many many
years, not just 10 or 15

I've never blamed the players, just the system. There was times in my life where I felt perhaps I was being overpaid, but I never once gave my cheque back to the boss. :lol: I've always tried to correlate the value of the product with what was spent to get it, and no matter how hard I tried, I wasn't able to justify it with Dennis Rodman. :lol:
 

talloola

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I've never blamed the players, just the system. There was times in my life where I felt perhaps I was being overpaid, but I never once gave my cheque back to the boss. :lol: I've always tried to correlate the value of the product with what was spent to get it, and no matter how hard I tried, I wasn't able to justify it with Dennis Rodman. :lol:

i'll go along with that, for sure. lol

Nice try but, as usual, you are three steps behind the discussion. There are lots of teams that were doing well 10 - 20 years ago and are not doing well now....and it is not all in the south.



Since we aren't just talking about the southern teams why don't you make like a good little girl and run along. It's obvious this discussion is a little over your head (a pretty common occurrence)



Nonsense. It's not doing well in on long Island, St Louis....even Chicago ran out of cash a few times last year. The 16 money losing franchises are not all in the south. In fact one of them is the Sens.



The "economy" is not the problem, if it was, half the NBA, NFL and MLB teams would be in the same position s half the NHL teams.



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lol lol
 

Cannuck

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Maybe we can have a thread about how the quote function works. Once you get a hang of it, then you can move yourself up to more complex discussions like hockey economics and geography.
 

gerryh

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Maybe we can have a thread about how the quote function works. Once you get a hang of it, then you can move yourself up to more complex discussions like hockey economics and geography.


Even though I have not gotten along with taloola at all. I do recognize her vast knowledge when it comes to the NHL and hockey in general. Your relpies to her only show and reinforce your own lack of knowledge in this area.
 

petros

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In my league a s youth we hadeam called the Golden Girls they were two years older and hormoned out. They were trying to get into the league and my coach was smart enough to get us much ice time as possible and embarass the **** out of us if we lost which we never did but the fear wasthere and a good motivator.

I wonder if talloola has ever lived in Regina in the late 70's?
 

JLM

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Maybe we can have a thread about how the quote function works. Once you get a hang of it, then you can move yourself up to more complex discussions like hockey economics and geography.

Hey Canuck- Maybe you can put on a clinic for us lower vertebrates. :smile:

I'm not surprised.

It might be a huge mistake trying to make a fool out of Talloola when it comes to hockey. (She knows quite a bit of other stuff too).
 

talloola

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In my league a s youth we hadeam called the Golden Girls they were two years older and hormoned out. They were trying to get into the league and my coach was smart enough to get us much ice time as possible and embarass the **** out of us if we lost which we never did but the fear wasthere and a good motivator.

I wonder if talloola has ever lived in Regina in the late 70's?

No, never lived there. lol

Our daughters played most of their 'highly competetive' fastball and ice hockey during the 70s, which was their pre teen and right thru their teenage years.
My oldest daughter played on the womens b.c. team which participated in the
canadians back east in the late 70's.

My daughters were excellent competetive hockey players, my husband coached them, and we were in charge
of the Newton Girls Athletics, which took in all the girl/women's hockey, and sixteen teams of girls
fastball, both a house league and travel teams.


My husband organized exhibition games with many boys pee wee teams, when our girls team was very young,
(the girls ranged in age from 9 to 13, and we won more than we lost. The team was very good, he
taught them to play as good as any boys team of their age, played hard, learned slap shots, and many
different plays, had a power play, and a very good goalie.

They attended hockey schools, and power skating in the summer, when you put together a group of kids
who are 'naturally' very competetive and love the sport, there is no limit to how good they can get.

It was great fun, and very hard work.



He did the same with the ball teams he coached, pitching was excellent, and he coached them just like
he played, they won many championships, provincial and western canadians, came third in the canadians.



Good memories.
 
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petros

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Newton in the 70's was "out of town". I still don't believe you think the energy on the ice is better in the NHL than in the kids and teens.
 

talloola

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Newton in the 70's was "out of town". I still don't believe you think the energy on the ice is better in the NHL than in the kids and teens.

I did agree with that analogy about energy, it is young, raw enthusiastic energy, well needed for them,
they are on the brink of adulthood and trying with everything they have got to make it to the NHL, 'just one' more step, after years and years, since probably around 6yrs old
They probably have more physical energy than they will ever have in their lifetimes, but there is
more maturing, physical growing, learning the game, etc. to do over the next few years.

We moved to Newton from New Westminster late in l966, our children were very small, one more to come,
and it was out in the country, near bear creek, my kids use to fish there and play, just a stones
throw from our house, but over the next 13 years, till we moved to the island, the whole area around
us closed completely in, and it was all houses, and no more fields and green area, two great farms
dissapeared, we sold our two horses, and the next thing for us was to make a run
for it, and never look back. lol
 

Kakato

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Rick Rypien- Here Without You (Tribute) - YouTubeHey folks,back from the Arctic and back home and it's a sad day here in the crowsnest pass as Rick Rypien was found dead yesterday by his own hand.
He just got signed on by the Winnipeg Jets and had a hockey clinic here at home for the kids.
He was a good scrapper,not scared of anyone and I was looking forward to seeing him play for the Jets this winter.
He had a tough go the last few years but had tens of thousands of fans.
R.I.P.Rick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwCaWtw4ThQ&feature=player_embedded
 

Kakato

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R.I.P. Rick

A cynical person might say someone that troubled would be better off dead.
I think it's people like you that make people suffering from depression pull the pin because people like you make fun of it.

Karma is a bitch though and when you go through the same thing in 20 years then you will know how much of a bitch miss karma is.