More Ducks Tarred and Feathered?

captain morgan

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Still waiting on the list of pollutants from lumber mills.


Pulp and paper: the reduction of toxic effluents (BP-292E)
Pulp and paper pollution overview

 

petros

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My hunting license says I can kill 16 ducks, 8 CDN Honkers and 20 Snow geese.

If 20 hunter get drunk and get their trucks stuck it will save 320 ducks.

Go to the pubs and buy rounds for hunters!
 

#juan

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I don't know what your point is but these tailing ponds are just holes in the ground where toxic sludge
is dumped. It looks like it is proven that it eventually leaches into the river.
Btw, I would be more worried if those 1500 deer were poisoned by a chemical company.
 

petros

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I would be more worried if those 1500 deer were poisoned by a chemical company.
You mean like how Union Carbide has done right by the people of Bhopal? India must have some really loose "acceptable limits" when it comes to industrial caused deaths and maladies.

That's not a list of pollutants, that's a bar chart.

mpregnation aids. Surfactants may be used to improve impregnation of the wood chips with the cooking liquors.
Anthraquinone is used as a digester additive. It works as a redox catalyst by oxidizing cellulose and reducing lignin. This is protecting the cellulose from degradation and makes the lignin more water soluble.[10]
An emulsion breaker can be added in the soap separation to speed up and improve the separation of soap from the used cooking liquors by flocculation.[11]
Defoamers remove foam and speed up the production process. Drainage of washing equipment is improved and gives cleaner pulp.
Dispersing agents and complexing agents are keeping the system cleaner and reduce the need for maintenance stops.
Fixation agents are fixating finely dispersed potential deposits to the fibers and thereby transporting it out of the process.

What are the "acceptable limits" for duck deaths?
 

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mpregnation aids. Surfactants may be used to improve impregnation of the wood chips with the cooking liquors.
Anthraquinone is used as a digester additive. It works as a redox catalyst by oxidizing cellulose and reducing lignin. This is protecting the cellulose from degradation and makes the lignin more water soluble.[10]
An emulsion breaker can be added in the soap separation to speed up and improve the separation of soap from the used cooking liquors by flocculation.[11]
Defoamers remove foam and speed up the production process. Drainage of washing equipment is improved and gives cleaner pulp.
Dispersing agents and complexing agents are keeping the system cleaner and reduce the need for maintenance stops.
Fixation agents are fixating finely dispersed potential deposits to the fibers and thereby transporting it out of the process.

Liquors? Digesters?

You sure you're talking about Lumber Mills? I don't know too many lumber mills that deal with cooking liquors, lignin and such.
 

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And still it continues: anyone who is trying to improve the situation is insulted and vilified.

I can't speak for anybody else but, as for myself, I have nothing but the utmost respect for people that are trying to improve the situation. Near as I can tell, from this thread, Kakato is doing more to improve the situation than people like Juan and Cliffy. I guess it's just a matter of perspective.
 

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I saw all the ducks and geese flying over our ponds when this happened,they were going west in a freezing rain,I thought they were going to land on one of ours but only 40 did as i'm right next to the ponds.
Did you see all the ducks and geese flying over your ponds late at night in the dark? Syncrude spokeswoman Cheryl Robb said staff discovered the birds around 10:15 PM Monday. About what distance away were all the ducks and geese that you saw flying over your ponds?

Syncrude has radar to detect these flocks, ....
Apparently, Syncrude did not yet have their new radar system hooked up to their deterrent system.
 

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Apparently, Syncrude did not yet have their new radar system hooked up to their deterrent system.


I think that Syncrude was in the process of coordinating the radar software with the flak guns.

It takes a little time to get these things arranged.

Maybe the ducks commited suicide?


I heard that the ducks were to meet the UFO that was to take them to utopia.

Pass the kool-aid
 

Tonington

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No, dead ducks. This thread is about dead ducks. If you go back to my initial post in this thread, I said there lacks perspective.

You either believe that a corporation should abide by the rules, or you do not. The only perspective that matters in this case is the terms of the applications by the energy companies to extract bitumen.

Yeah, they may be a whipping boy for having such harsh regulations, but that's the nature of the game. While you manage municipal waste systems, systems that across the country have been discharging into the ocean for years, I work in an aquaculture research facility. We can't discharge raw fish waste because that might harm local fish populations. Human waste, even treated conventionally contains endocrine disrupting chemicals which are impacting fish populations across the globe. Not really fair, but that's just the way it is, and Suzuki likes to run us into the ground too.
 

Tonington

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Nothing to see here. Besides it will be a thing of the past soon with new reclamation technology, so why worry now?