Middle East War - Iran- Syria -Lebanon - Israel - US

Will US/Israel permit Iran - Nuclear Weapons -or will we have War or Not

  • Will the US attack Iran to prevent /slow down /destroy their nuclear program

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Will The US permit Iran to go Nuclear

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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  • Poll closed .

DurkaDurka

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All terrible sources with nothing but unsubstantiated claims

Yeah, they're such biased sources. All you make is unsubstantiated claims, you have shown your ignorance on many levels already. The fact that you think Hezbollah is a Palestinian group says a lot...
 

Goober

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You're full of it, again.

Iran supplying weapons to Hamas:

MIDDLE EAST Cyprus and Egypt stop Iranian ships with weapons for Hamas and Hezbollah - Asia News
" On January 28, Egypt blocked an Iranian ship at the entrance to the Suez Canal: it was transporting weapons for Hamas. The Egyptian foreign minister accuses Iran of fomenting tension in order to escape pressure from the West on the nuclear question.

Cyprus unloads weapons arsenal from Iran ship allegedly running arms to Hamas - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News
"Cypriot authorities have started unloading an Iranian ship detained off its coast for allegedly attempting to smuggle weapons to Hamas in the Gaza Strip."





You're too dense to formulate a personal attack. Please try though

Ain't that the truth.
 

Goober

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Ah I see - the veil has been lifted from my eyes - and of course I am waiting for you to post the Protocols of the Elders of Zion -
Another credible source for freaks.

This is what you class as a credible source of information -
Again do you have siblings - I will provide a simple translate for you -


Siblings (also called sibs) are people who share at least one parent. A male sibling is called a brother ; and a female sibling is called ?????????????... think hard now?????????
 

Colpy

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For CUbert

The Gaza Strip: The humanitarian lifeline

Despite attacks by Hamas, Israel maintains an ongoing humanitarian corridor for the transfer of perishable and staple food items to Gaza. This conduit is used by internationally recognized organizations including the United Nations and the Red Cross. The Gaza Coordination and Liaison Administration works together with international organizations to respond to the needs of the Palestinian population in Gaza.
In 2009 -

  • 738,576 tons (30,576 trucks) of humanitarian commodities were transferred to the Gaza Strip.
  • 22,849 Palestinians exited the Strip, among them 10,544 patients and their companions, exiting for medical treatment in Israel.
  • 21,200 international organization staff members entered the Gaza Strip.
  • 4,883 tons of medical equipment and medicine entered the Strip, in 572 trucks, based on requests made by the PA and the international community.
At the Cabinet meeting of 22 March 2009, the Government of Israel instructed the bodies dealing with the matter, to enable the entry - without restriction - of foodstuffs to the residents of Gaza from all relevant sources in the framework of the humanitarian efforts.
Well over a million tons of humanitarian supplies entered Gaza from Israel from January 2009 - May 2010, equaling nearly a ton of aid for every man, woman and child in Gaza. Food and supplies are shipped from Israel to Gaza six days a week, channeled through aid organizations or via Gaza's private sector. Millions of dollars worth of international food aid continually flows through the Israeli humanitarian apparatus, ensuring that there is no food shortage in Gaza.

Food, medicine and ambulances are delivered to Gaza
via the Kerem Shalom crossing (Photos: IDF Spokesperson)

Essential food products including meat, chicken and fish, grains and legumes, oil, flour, oil, salt and sugar, fresh vegetables and dairy products, in addition to agricultural produce, animal feed, hygiene products, clothing and medicals supplies are among the goods that are regularly delivered to Gaza. Fertilizers that cannot be used to make explosives are shipped into the Strip regularly, as are potato seeds, eggs for reproduction, bees, and equipment for the flower industry.
In 2009, Israel coordinated the transfer of medical supplies for the disabled including wheelchairs, crutches and first aid kits. Other equipment shipped to Gaza include heart-monitors, baby feeding tubes, dental equipment, medical books, ambulance emergency equipment, artificial limbs and infant sleeping bags. In February 2010, Israel facilitated the transfer of mammogram equipment for breast cancer diagnosis, and the first CT machine in Palestinian Red Crescent Society hospitals in the Gaza Strip.
Israel transfers school equipment supplied by UNRWA including notebooks, school bags, writing implements and textbooks, and is coordinating the transfer of 200,000 laptops for Gaza schoolchildren.
Gas for domestic use (cooking and heating) is supplied according to Palestinian demand and is not subject to any limitation by Israel. After the fuel depot at Nahal Oz was repeatedly attacked by Palestinian terrorists from the Gaza Strip, it was forced to limit its operations. The Kerem Shalom crossing has since been adapted to the transfer of fuel and a new gas line with double the capacity to transfer gas was built.
Coordination and processing of requests regarding humanitarian infrastructure, such as water, sewage and electricity systems, in the Gaza Strip is conducted between COGAT and the Palestinian Authority. While the import of cement and iron has been restricted into Gaza since these are used by the Hamas to cast rockets and bunkers, monitored imports of truckloads of cement, iron, and building supplies such as wood and windows are regularly coordinated with international parties.
Israel maintains a corridor for the transfer of medical patients out of Gaza, and about 200 medical staff members go through the crossings every month.
In addition to medical evacuations, the Erez Crossing enables two-way traffic of international organizations' staff between Israel and Gaza as well as Gaza residents with various humanitarian needs.

YouTube: Young Gazan cancer patients enter Israel for treatment
A first group of Palestinian children suffering from cancer were received at the clinic opened at the Erez crossing as part of Israel's humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza. The children received initial treatment there and were then transferred to hospitals in Israel and abroad according to the serious of their condition - Jan 19, 2009

(Photo: Rafael Ben-Ari/Chameleons Eye)

More on YouTube: Israeli aid to Gaza

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/humanitarianaid/overview/

Sorry for the long cut 'n paste....I must be channeling Earth as One! :)


Now, this is what Israel claims to be doing in the Gaza strip........considering the intense scrutiny applied to all things Israeli by the world in general, it is safe to assume that were these figures NOT accurate, it would be VERY easy to counter these claims.


The ball is in your court.


Put up, or shut up.
 

Colpy

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Feel free to point out any bias you see, in Colpy's source the bias is evident immediately.

Absolutely correct! Straight from the Israeli government, which is about as pro-Israeli as you can get.

Which does NOT make the figures untrue...........or the source false.

My challenge was to disprove the claims....which should be easy enough, considering the microscope Israel is under......

And if you can not submit a credible challenge to the facts as stated.....they stand.
 

Goober

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Feel free to point out any bias you see, in Colpy's source the bias is evident immediately.
You will only accept that which meets your biased standards -

Feel free to point out any bias you see, in Colpy's source the bias is evident immediately.

CU Bert
So why does Saudi, Kuwait, Egypt and a host of other Arab Countries want Iran - WITHOUT NUKES

A simple answer would be sufficient - My expectations at times are rather low

Iran with Nukes would set in motion a NuclearArms Race n the Mid EastNo Reply on that as of yet -
A simple answer would be sufficient - My expectations at times are again rather low.

 

CUBert

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Absolutely correct! Straight from the Israeli government, which is about as pro-Israeli as you can get.

Which does NOT make the figures untrue...........or the source false.

It makes the statistics sketchy at best.
Just like you wouldn't take anything on a Hamas website as a legitimate source.

Here is an interesting read

With all the talk about Iran and the intentions of its nuclear programme it is a shame the West continues to undermine its own position with selective morality and obvious hypocrisy. It seems amazing there can be so much written about this issue, yet so little addresses the obvious question – “for what reasons could Iran want nuclear weapons?”. As Simon Jenkins points out, the answer is as simple as looking at a map. "I would sleep happier if there were no Iranian bomb but a swamp of hypocrisy separates me from overly protesting it. Iran is a proud country that sits between nuclear Pakistan and India to its east, a nuclear Russia to its north and a nuclear Israel to its west. Adjacent Afghanistan and Iraq are occupied at will by a nuclear America, which backed Saddam Hussein in his 1980 invasion of Iran. How can we say such a country has ‘no right’ to nuclear defence?" (Guardian (18/1/07, “The West has picked a fight with Iran it cannot win”).

Why Does Iran Want Nuclear Weapons?
 

Goober

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It makes the statistics sketchy at best.
Just like you wouldn't take anything on a Hamas website as a legitimate source.

Here is an interesting read

With all the talk about Iran and the intentions of its nuclear programme it is a shame the West continues to undermine its own position with selective morality and obvious hypocrisy. It seems amazing there can be so much written about this issue, yet so little addresses the obvious question – “for what reasons could Iran want nuclear weapons?”. As Simon Jenkins points out, the answer is as simple as looking at a map. "I would sleep happier if there were no Iranian bomb but a swamp of hypocrisy separates me from overly protesting it. Iran is a proud country that sits between nuclear Pakistan and India to its east, a nuclear Russia to its north and a nuclear Israel to its west. Adjacent Afghanistan and Iraq are occupied at will by a nuclear America, which backed Saddam Hussein in his 1980 invasion of Iran. How can we say such a country has ‘no right’ to nuclear defence?" (Guardian (18/1/07, “The West has picked a fight with Iran it cannot win”).

Why Does Iran Want Nuclear Weapons?

They also support Terror Groups - Hamas -Hezbollah and their religious enemies - The Taliban

The US offered Scurity Guarantees - Reason the fear Russia is simple

The underbelley of Russia is dominated by Muslims - They do not want Iran supporting terror groups in the regions

Lastly - Why did Iran turn down Security Guarantees - They want to be the major power in the Mid East - It will alss start a Nuclear Arms race.
 

JBeee

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You fellas (CD,Gooby, Ironside, Colpy and a few more) are ****-scared of EAO, I`m detecting. And rightly so. His opinion and knowledge on this topic is top-notch.

Good stuff EAO!
 

Goober

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You fellas (CD,Gooby, Ironside, Colpy and a few more) are ****-scared of EAO, I`m detecting. And rightly so. His opinion and knowledge on this topic is top-notch.

Good stuff EAO!
And I now add you along with the other Dumbo to putting the word Simple into Simpleton.

We at Con Con are blessed - We now have twins - Oh the fussing that will go on with everyone -Are the Boys or Girls-

Well they are Boys and I suggest the color Pink for those of you that are familiar with the color coding under the Nazi Regime at the Death camps. No - It did not always mean a person with a preference for their same sex.
 

JBeee

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"We at Con Con are blessed"....

Are you ok Goober?


And I now add you along with the other Dumbo to putting the word Simple into Simpleton.

We at Con Con are blessed - We now have twins - Oh the fussing that will go on with everyone -Are the Boys or Girls-

Well they are Boys and I suggest the color Pink for those of you that are familiar with the color coding under the Nazi Regime at the Death camps. No - It did not always mean a person with a preference for their same sex.
 

lone wolf

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And I now add you along with the other Dumbo to putting the word Simple into Simpleton.

We at Con Con are blessed - We now have twins - Oh the fussing that will go on with everyone -Are the Boys or Girls-

Well they are Boys and I suggest the color Pink for those of you that are familiar with the color coding under the Nazi Regime at the Death camps. No - It did not always mean a person with a preference for their same sex.



Sez mine her