Add that to the dentists they did in not long ago.
Hell, I say we all pull our Troopers out and let them all go blind and starve after their teeth rot and fall out.
Good manner and morale in the Quran
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Hell, I say we all pull our Troopers out and let them all go blind and starve after their teeth rot and fall out.
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Abraham was a Jew, not an Arab. But because Isaac's presentation for sacrifice established God's covenant with the Jews, Isaac has traditionally been considered the Father of the Jewish people.
Ishmael was the son of Hagar, a handmade of Sarah, Abraham's wife, and according to Mesopotamian Law at the time an heir, but not a son, of the marriage. Nothing in Genesis attests to who the father of Ishmael was, but since Abraham was an obedient and devout man, and would have observed the laws against adultery, it seems the Ismael's father was some other man in Abraham's household.
This is the text, with the Hebrew of original texts.
Genesis Chpt 22
What i've got is the text as written in the Book of Genesis, from ancient texts. By what authority did Mohammed expurgate and rewrite these to conform to the strictures of Arab society as they existed at his time.
Abraham was a Jew, not an Arab. But because Isaac's presentation for sacrifice established God's covenant with the Jews, Isaac has traditionally been considered the Father of the Jewish people.
Ishmael was the son of Hagar, a handmade of Sarah, Abraham's wife, and according to Mesopotamian Law at the time an heir, but not a son, of the marriage. Nothing in Genesis attests to who the father of Ishmael was, but since Abraham was an obedient and devout man, and would have observed the laws against adultery, it seems the Ismael's father was some other man in Abraham's household.
This is the text, with the Hebrew of original texts.
Genesis Chpt 22
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Both books were written by people both books to me are as worthwhile as a robert munch story book to me
I thought Abraham was a Sumerian. At the time of Abraham, the Jews and most Arab peoples were still herding goats in the desert. Both the Jews and Muslims borrowed (quite loosely) from the ancient texts of the Sumerians, Babylonians, Egyptians and Assyrians. And Constantine made up the whole Jesus myth, basing it loosely on the above and probably Hindu texts as well.
You evaded the evident truth.
You moreover, have made many mistakes:
1- Abraham was a Jew.
Abraham was not a Jew neither was he a Christian; because he lived long ago before either of the Torah and the Gospel were revealed. In other words: the Torah which marks the Jewish people and the Gospel which marks Christians were revealed long time after Abraham; Abraham was devoted to God alone and neither was he a Jew following the Torah nor a Christian following the Gospel.
2- And you said: "according to Mesopotamian Law at the time"
Was Abraham a prophet of God working to His instructions or did he follow the Mesopotamian law?
3- Then your flagrant accusation of Ishmael that he was a son of adultery and that Abraham covered that and ascribed him to himself; where did you quote this from?
I now see more and more about the guilt of such people claiming they pertain to God and His revelations.
The Lies Of Ezra About The Prophets
In my studies of former lives I have identitified Abraham as Peter the Great of Russia in a later life. What good is it to know who was who? This case illustrates that you can approximate Abraham's character by the character of Peter the Great. My method of study is described on my website ThinkTankGraphics.ca
I think it's fair to say that the Jewish faith, through the covenant with God, originated with the ACT of Abraham's offering of Isaac as a sacrifice. So i'll concede that Abraham preceded that, and that Judaism formed around Isaac, its codification in scripture followed, and thus he could rightly be considered the fist Jew.
As to Ishmael being the son of adultery.. it is YOU who are asserting that by claiming Ishmael to be a SON of Abraham who was married to Sarah, through Hagar, who is clearly a servant of the household.
I have made no claims as to the legitimacy of the Ismael's parentage. It is possibe he was the son of another servant married to Hagar in Abraham's household, which as i said was very devout one, and would have required this of its members.
It was simply the law of Mesopotamia that male offspring of servants of the household were deemed to be an heir to that household.
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Apparently the rest of the loons in the contest didn't think so.
Nah, that's a gay guy from BC, who defends a religion that would stone him to death, cuz he likes outties.
G W Bush had the chance to defeat Osama bin Laden and all his thugs, DOMESTICALLY, without having gone to war in Afganistan, but he chose, instead, to be politically correct and utter the most idiotic statement of his presidency, in fact, the most idiotic statement in ANY presidency.
So, now, the religion of peace will have a monument at the spot that they so peacefully destroyed.
So, now, the religion of peace will have a monument at the spot that they so peacefully destroyed.
Abram was the son of a Sumerian Oracle, likely a high ranking official of considerable wealth, with a large household. By tradition Abraham was the name he took after the covenant was established.
He is actually considered the first Patriach of the Jews, followed by Isaac, followed by Jacob.
As usual Cliffy, you have managed to throw everything into the cauldron, and are no doubt cackling around it, uttering Wiccan chants.
I can only imagine your surprise when you are presented with the fact that Christ is the Lord of the Universe, and you are his creature. :smile:
Wiccan? No. I am after all a spiritual anarchist so I put no gods before me (or after me). Christ is a state of being attainable by anyone, as Jesus said. Only those who do not trust themselves need others to lord over them. The kingdom of god is within, not some nebulous ethereal place in the sky.
So what is the religion of a 'spiritual anarchist' composed. Human reason i suppose, or that which it becomes when orphaned from God.. an inward, cynical, reductive rationalism.. winding down to oblivion... within..
far from offering freedom it is merely a self imposed cage. :roll:
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When you go to prison for hate crimes, you will find out more about gang rape than you wish to know.
Er, so I'm told.:laughing2: