Police Missing a Knob
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And he over reacted - They ( All Offiers, Soldiers,Security Staff etc)were all briefed about being videod etc and not to be sucked into something that makes the Police come of as asses - To be watchful for these types of encounters -He blew it - Literally - No pun intended.
Did he feel the female Police Officer was not able to handle bubbles -
Ignoring the fact that a part was cut out between the first incident and the arrest, and assuming nothing else transpired between tapings, then I'd say the officer went too far in arresting her and could have chosen a nicer tone of voice.
That said, the lady was being provocative by blowing bubbles at them and certainly not being too respectful herself. It went both ways, but the lady blowing the bubbles was certainly not totally innocent herself in all of this.
I do agree he was well within his rights as per the law to arrest her for assaulting a police officer ad no sanctions should be imposed on him for that. At most he could get a talking to about his tone of voice, but that's about it. As for arresting her, he was well within his right to do that.
Bad coverage for her, because in the end, I can still understand why that officer was angry and with reason. She was being provocative and did not bring positive coverage on herself. And then to mistreat the officers and demand it for herself seemed a little self-centred there. It made her come across as a spoilt brat.
And what exactly was she trying to accomplish? Exercising her right to assault another?
Good point. We don't know what transpired before the video. That same officer may very well have asked her very kindly and politely to blow bubbles elsewhere or put the bottle away. If that's the case and she continued, or even chose to approach further, then she was disobeying a lawful command, in which case the tougher tone of voice in the video would have been a respectful way of giving her one last chance while making it clear to her what the consequences will be if she continues. For all we know, she pulled the bottle out a third time, which might have led to the arrest. If that's the case, then the officer in question would have given her plenty of chances and clear warnings.
To be fair to the officers, some people are more defensive of others than they are of themselves. For example, had the girl been blowing bubbles at him, he might have tolerated it more but seeing her disrespecting his colleague and possibly friend like that made him feel the need to stand up for her, not because she was an officer or a woman, but a friend being disrespected in his presence.
If that's the case, while we can debate whether he'd overreacted in principle, he certainly did not overreact in the eyes of the law. Did he go too far? Maybe. Did the bubble-blower go too far? Absolutely. More responsibility falls on her shoulders for this seeing that she started it.
Part of the video is cut outbetween that 'contract' and the arrest. If she did later take out the bottle and blow bubbles at him again, then she was really asking for it.
It didn't look to me like she was blowing bubbles in their faces. Looked to me like she was blowing them downward and between them.
Perhaps those poor TO cops might need a course in bubble defense.
We better email our MPs and let them know we want a new law: "Breach of wimpy cop security by threat of bubble".
There is still the basic principle of respect for personal space which she was violating. Again, arresting her might have been an overreaction on the part of the police officers, and the male officer may have been a little too aggressive, confrontational and insulting in his demeanor, but still the bubble-blower was being provocative and disrespectful herself, so it is not fair to put 100% of the blame on the shoulders of the officer himself.
Les wonders (after his laughing fit) what would happen if a firefighter sprayed down the cop with suppressant foam (a lot of bubbles). Would that be a hanging offense?
Come on. Blowing bubbles at someone is hardly cause for the reaction by that male officer. Even the girl cop was smiling for Pete's sake. Face it, the guy could have simply asked her to stop in a pleasant manner rather than treating the issue as a threat on his life.
Come on. Blowing bubbles at someone is hardly cause for the reaction by that male officer. Even the girl cop was smiling for Pete's sake. Face it, the guy could have simply asked her to stop in a pleasant manner rather than treating the issue as a threat on his life.
This Goat-Rodeo should never have taken place in a major city. This is just
plain ugly all around, and should have not been staged in Toronto or any other
place exposed to the public.
The huge chips on the shoulders of both sides of this situation are plainly
visible. I've said from day 1 that this should have taken place on a base like
CFB Cold Lake or someplace similar.
The people with children in that crowd are just plain insane. The fact that people
can not be out on the streets in their own home town during the day without me
thinking they're insane....is pretty crazy in itself. With their children, I mean.
plain ugly all around, and should have not been staged in Toronto or any other
place exposed to the public.
The huge chips on the shoulders of both sides of this situation are plainly
visible. I've said from day 1 that this should have taken place on a base like
CFB Cold Lake or someplace similar.
The people with children in that crowd are just plain insane. The fact that people
can not be out on the streets in their own home town during the day without me
thinking they're insane....is pretty crazy in itself. With their children, I mean.
I think the bubbles are irrelevant, but the attitudes on both sides are relevant.
The whole thing is nasty. Power-trips abound all around. I hope another G20
or G8 meeting is never allowed again in another Canadian city, ever.
Hold them on a Military base in Canada, or not at all. Those attending can just
suck it up & rough it for a couple of days. Chow lines & bunks for everyone, or
they can just stay home.
Strange that. While I've come across police officers that have been a little sharp in their choice of words, I've found that if I ignore it, they do calm down and can even be friendly. Now I agree that those cops that show a sharp tongue from the start are not very professional and if the civilian responds to it, that cop is likely to raise the ante, and then we could say the cop asked for it to a degree. There are bad apples in every bunch. I'm just saying though that it does go both ways. That cop could have ignored the situation and who knows, maybe that would have been the way to go. But to be fair, we still have to acknowledge that that girl was not helping matters. Neither side was particularly professional here, but we can't put all the blame on the cops.
Like I said, the female officer was smiling. That indicates that she didn't perceive a threat. Or at least didn't perceive the same depth of seriousness threat as the bigmouth cop with the attitude.
It was an immense abuse of authority and immense lack of good judgement.
AnnaG - Remember they have a tendency to do Air Bursts - Think of the ramifications of multiple air bursts within the G8 setting - Canada would be embarrassed to no extent - And we now those nasty jealous Brits - Olympic coverage - would have a field day.
Headlines in the London Times
Massive & Multiple Air Bursts threaten Leaders of the G8.
It would be a stain on our Nationhood -
Aren't the few who be anointed by gold and protected within those walls most likely to be of the anal type who would fart in the bathtub so they can bite the bubbles?
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Bubbles or no Bubbles...
These G8-G20 protesters are getting into exactly what they want to. They raise hell or block traffic and pretty much make a nuisance of themselves for the cameras. They run around with cameras filming police actions and are "simply shocked" to find the cops filming them! Standing directly in front of a cop and blowing bubbles into his/her face is not a normal activity. If you think it is please walk up to your local police officer on the street and see his reaction. Perhaps walk up to someone at a bar and just stand there and blow bubbles in their face for no reason and see their reaction.
I watched the long video, I am not sure if you all did. Seeing a guy yell out in the street...
"Where are your arrest warrants! Where are your warrants!"
...please. What kind of logic is that?
And Miss Piggy the lawyer. Geez.
With that said... I would like to kiss Miss Bubbles belly for a little bit. She's cute.
Ohhhh.... I don't know about that. She may have not felt threatened but I don't she was happy. Many a times I've seen someone grin before they take action...like a punch for example.
Do you think the female cop was enjoying Miss Bubbles action?
ORDER! WE WILL HAVE ORDER HERE!
These G8-G20 protesters are getting into exactly what they want to. They raise hell or block traffic and pretty much make a nuisance of themselves for the cameras. They run around with cameras filming police actions and are "simply shocked" to find the cops filming them! Standing directly in front of a cop and blowing bubbles into his/her face is not a normal activity. If you think it is please walk up to your local police officer on the street and see his reaction. Perhaps walk up to someone at a bar and just stand there and blow bubbles in their face for no reason and see their reaction.
I watched the long video, I am not sure if you all did. Seeing a guy yell out in the street...
"Where are your arrest warrants! Where are your warrants!"
...please. What kind of logic is that?
And Miss Piggy the lawyer. Geez.
With that said... I would like to kiss Miss Bubbles belly for a little bit. She's cute.
Ohhhh.... I don't know about that. She may have not felt threatened but I don't she was happy. Many a times I've seen someone grin before they take action...like a punch for example.
Do you think the female cop was enjoying Miss Bubbles action?
ORDER! WE WILL HAVE ORDER HERE!
Granted.... The protesters let themselves be known long before the Summit. The protesters wanted propaganda. The protesters got it. Funny how the Evening News never carried any stories of cops with posies in their lapels. Why the warrior stance when a smile and wave-off could have won some friends.Bubbles or no Bubbles...
These G8-G20 protesters are getting into exactly what they want to. They raise hell or block traffic and pretty much make a nuisance of themselves for the cameras. They run around with cameras filming police actions and are "simply shocked" to find the cops filming them! Standing directly in front of a cop and blowing bubbles into his/her face is not a normal activity. If you think it is please walk up to your local police officer on the street and see his reaction. Perhaps walk up to someone at a bar and just stand there and blow bubbles in their face for no reason and see their reaction.
I watched the long video, I am not sure if you all did. Seeing a guy yell out in the street...
"Where are your arrest warrants! Where are your warrants!"
...please. What kind of logic is that?
And Miss Piggy the lawyer. Geez.
With that said... I would like to kiss Miss Bubbles belly for a little bit. She's cute.
Ohhhh.... I don't know about that. She may have not felt threatened but I don't she was happy. Many a times I've seen someone grin before they take action...like a punch for example.
Do you think the female cop was enjoying Miss Bubbles action?
ORDER! WE WILL HAVE ORDER HERE!
"It wasn't that they pushed the troublemakers back into the woodwork.... It was in the way they delighted in the push...."
Now, even Mom is appalled....
ORDER I SAY!
Joking a bit. I hear you but these are professional protesters. They get out there during these meetings and do this all the time. And if there aren't any cops around they smash windows until they get noticed. I doubt the hearts and minds are going to be won over by the police with these folks.
I am the first one to come out against a D*** head cop who enjoys his authority and abuses his authority over the common man or woman. I've seen it enough. I watched a cop at a 4th of July parade yell at a guy in front of his wife and two kids for parking the wrong way on a street. He did not say please move your car, he said...
"Get back in your car and get the hell out of here!"
...just like that. It was infuriating to see that. I cannot stand that type of abuse. I do not blindly support police.
I still am of the opinion that he over reacted - inflamed a situation - and is in need of some retraining - police are trained to 1st defuse a posiible situation - all he did was aggravate it - a freaking disgraceful moment that for him will live forever on the net -= I am sure his fellow officers are having a fun time with this and him.