Cool. The all you palefaces get off my island. We were doing just fine before you guys got here. lol
Javohl! Sie tragen, was wir Sie und nichts anderes erklären. Sieg Heil !
French burka ban proposal riles Muslims
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From certain high risk areas, absolutely!
The burka is supposed to be exempt from searches. If duffles were so exempt then they damn well should be banned too!
No. I was thinking about pumps, heels, stilettos, etc. actually. I have some but the heels are soft rubber so they don't clack or clonk on hard surfaces.
When bombing they should wear flannel with a pattern similar to the inside of an old sleeping bag?
"Cruel Shoes"
Steve Martin
From the Steve Martin book Cruel Shoes
1979
Anna knew she had to have some new shoes today, and Carlo had helped her try on every pair in the store. Carlo spoke wearily, "Well, that's every pair of shoes in the place."
"Oh, you must have one more pair..."
"No, not one more pair... Well, we have the cruel shoes, but no one would want..."
Anna interrupted, "Oh yes, let me see the cruel shoes!"
Carlo looked incredulous. "No, Anna, you don't understand, you see, the cruel shoes are..."
"Get them!"
Carlo disappeared into the back room for a moment, then returned with an ordinary shoe box. He opened the lid and removed a hideous pair of black and white pumps. But these were not an ordinary pair of black and white pumps; both were left feet, one had a right angled turn with separate compartments that pointed the toes in impossible directions. The other shoe was six inches long and was curved inward like a rocking chair with a vise and razor blades to hold the foot in place.
Carlo spoke hesitantly, "... Now you see why... they're not fit for humans..."
"Put them on me."
"But..."
"Put them on me!"
Carlo knew all arguments were useless. He knelt down before her and forced the feet into the shoes.
The screams were incredible.
Anna crawled over to the mirror and held her bloody feet up where she could see.
"I like them."
She paid Carlo and crawled out of the store into the street.
Later that day, Carlo was overheard saying to a new customer, "Well, that's every shoe in the place. Unless, of course, you'd like to try the cruel shoes."
One can make a bomb out of a shaving cream can, hairspray, toolbox, lunchbox, rolled up newspaper, toy doll, part of a bicycle frame, umbrella tube, etc.
It would be nice if they did then a ban might not be necessary. :lol:
Yes, but one cannot make a big bomb that way. Nor can one expect to bring a toolbox into a stadium and not have it inspected.
Just wait until they bring out the flying area rugs (carpets are wall to wall) and bomb from the sky.
So?
Seems to me the idea is to use stuff that doesn't depend upon amount of explosives to make a huge amount of damage. Do you have any idea what a shaving foam can of semtex, TNT, or C4 can do?
http://www.fimnet.fi/sjs/articles/SJS42005-279.pdf
I don't understand what you're saying... Do you think those things shouldn't be checked when being brought into a stadium or onto an airplane? Anyway, whatever it is, I'll just restate my position in different words:
You do realize that burkas are supposed to be exempt from searches right?
Anything you have mentioned, if it were exempt from being searched, should absolutely be banned.
Banning and being exempt are two different things.
So, do we ban all things that can hide a bomb, given the situation in France where they will ban it everywhere?
Then people would have to be naked when they go into stadiums because little things can make big damages (my point). They should check every shoeheel, wallet, pillow, etc. Fertilizer can look like makeup if you grind it a little. Diesel looks like lemonade. Mix them = boom
C4can be made to look like cord or string.
a couple or three wraps of detcord around a lamppost could make a heck of a mess
Why anything white? White is much cooler than black (heat wise) than any dark colours. I like white. Hawaiian shirt fabric (patterns) should be reserved for bathing suits.
hehe glare, Honey.
White reflects sunlight too well.:shock: :-( Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
It is a classic fallacy around here to go from the general to the specific. It doesn't make a valid argument but does make the arguer look silly (sorry but true). If you can prove some small diminutive point as false it doesn't automatically follow that the larger premise is false too. It only proves you don't know how to argue. It is a valid form in a chain argument but that wasn't being made here. Your argument is in fact off topic.
I'll try and show you why:
Obviously everything cannot be searched (you know that), and that would be silly (you know that), but small bombs are less damaging than larger ones (you know that). It is a common tactic to use burkas to sneak large bombs into places since it is taboo to search someone in a burka. It isn't taboo to search anything else and that includes full body searches (unless the person is in a burka).
So the issue is large bombs frequently being sneaked in through clothing which is taboo to search.
The issue is not that bombs can be in anything and everything cannot be searched.
By going from the general to the specific you have started to argue against something utterly different than the argument originally laid before you and your argument, naturally, has nothing to do with my original statement. It is completely off topic and proves nothing.
I was simply replying to something dumb that you said. You're the one blowing the balloon up.
Like I said, you made the dumb comment in the first place.
BTW, a couple small bombs could be enough to cause a massive panic in a stadium resulting in more people being killed and injured than a larger bomb in one spot.
But you seem to be the expert, right? Gotta have a big bomb to cause significant damage. :roll:
Bombs can be hidden anywhere and look like anything. You going to pull apart every camera, phone, shoe, etc.?
Anyway, searching burkas won't do much. Idiots will simply choose a different method of transporting bombs.