Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

[Colpy]

Compared to when Turkish Warships join the next group it was the love boat.

That won't happen.

 

[petros]

This event has opened the door to a new kind of suicide martyrs. Ones that don't strap on bombs but throw themselves in front of the IDF with cameras rolling and let them do what the IDF does best. Shoot first take names later and take the press coverage on the chin.

I hope I'm wrong.

 

[petros]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

I'm glad to see the original question of this thread has totally been missed.

 

[Colpy]

This event has opened the door to a new kind of suicide martyrs. Ones that don't strap on bombs but throw themselves in front of the IDF with cameras rolling and let them do what the IDF does best. Shoot first take names later and take the press coverage on the chin.

I hope I'm wrong.

Unfortunately, I think you are correct.

 

[petros]

Unfortunately, I think you are correct.

It didn't work so good for the Buddhists in Vietnam did it?

 

[eh1eh]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

I wouldn't mind ads like this IF they were true.

There is nothing that pisses me off more than being lied to.

YouTube - Keep Israel Safe

Therefore if we don;t do as Israel says then we will be unsafe??? Sounds like extortion to me. Personally, I think all religions should be outlawed as state powers.

 

[petros]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

Therefore if we don;t do as Israel says then we will be unsafe??? Sounds like extortion to me. Personally, I think all religions should be outlawed as state powers.

This isn't the work of Israel but that of the 50 million death cult followers who are using the Jews to fulfill their own warped and twisted version of bible prophecy.

Their selfish beliefs include pitting the Muzzie against the Jew so Jesus can come and lead the US army to kill both off leaving Christianity as the only world religion.

 

[MHz]

I wonder whio will defend the Irish ship, aren't they sort of under UK protection. Be just like closing time on St Patrick's Day

 

[ironsides]

Arab Media Reports on Flotilla Participants: Writing Wills, Preparing for Martyrdom, Determined to Reach Gaza or Die

Following is information from the Arab media about some of the flotilla participants. It should be noted that many of these were from the Muslim Brotherhood across the Muslim world.

MEMRI - Middle East Media Research Institute



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[MHz]

That won't happen.

I have no doubt the US has NATO stand down even though it's member was attacked.
I'm pretty sure the PM was not grandstanding in His speech to their Gov.

 

[ironsides]

I wonder whio will defend the Irish ship, aren't they sort of under UK protection. Be just like closing time on St Patrick's Day

Would Canada care if you sailed your private BC registered boat into danger, or me doing it with a FL registered boat does the country really care, not really.

What NATO ship was attacked?

 

[MHz]

Arab Media Reports on Flotilla Participants: Writing Wills, Preparing for Martyrdom, Determined to Reach Gaza or Die

Following is information from the Arab media about some of the flotilla participants. It should be noted that many of these were from the Muslim Brotherhood across the Muslim world.

MEMRI - Middle East Media Research Institute



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I wonder which boat it is that ends up being the equal of the guy standing in front of a tank crew that would not open-fire, back when there was a USSR.

The Evangelical group is also strangely quiet at this time, maybe having to rewrite some of their Armageddon code.

Would Canada care if you sailed your private BC registered boat into danger, or me doing it with a FL registered boat does the country really care, not really.

Obviously not for American ships, thankfully not everybody is so 'passive' about having their citizens killed. How many on the Liberty again?

I'll try to remember your quote the next time somebody from the West dies while taking part in thing like instigating revolts in foreign lands. See if their life insurance company knew what they were upto.

Jews don't mind running blockades.

Exodus 1947

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Before there was an Israel, an inexperienced crew of young Americans climbed aboard a rusted American ferryboat and set out from Philadelphia to transport thousands of Jewish Holocaust survivors past the British blockade of Palestine. Other ships had tried it. But this ship, which would come to be known as the Exodus 1947, was the one that helped shape the political landscape of the Middle East. At the helm was "Big Bill" Millman, a 19-year-old Navy boxing champ. Frank Lavine, part of the deck crew, was 22 and completely unprepared for the kind of battle he would face against the British Marines. And in the engine room, an electrician named Nat Nadler helped keep the boilers lit, never imagining that he was about to participate in the birth of a nation. This is their story.

http://www.insideout.org/documentaries/exodus47/listen.asp

Would Canada care if you sailed your private BC registered boat into danger, or me doing it with a FL registered boat does the country really care, not really.

What NATO ship was attacked?

What alliance do you think Turkey belongs to?

 

[Colpy]

I wonder which boat it is that ends up being the equal of the guy standing in front of a tank crew that would not open-fire, back when there was a USSR.

(Sigh)

You mean the Chinese man who stood in front of the tanks heading for Tianamen Square.

He was later executed, if I remember correctly.

BIG difference, btw.

That individual was peacefully standing up against his own government, who were heading to kill innocent, peaceful pro-democracy protesters.

The Israelis were simply seeking to inspect a cargo for weapons. They came up against a bunch of violent nutbars seeking martyrdom in sympathy with Islamo-fascist terrorists.

BIG difference.

If the Chinese gentleman had stood aside, there still would have been mass murder in Tianamen Square.

If the people on board ship had stood aside, there would have been no violence.

 

[clutch]

excellent article

Seven idiots in the cabinet
By Yossi Sarid

This time, it was all foreseeable. Even this newspaper warned in advance about the possibility of defeat in victory. As preparations for the big sea confrontation proceeded, it became increasingly clear that it would end badly.

After all, the troops were being prepared by seven idiots and their subordinates - people who cannot see beyond the ends of their noses.

We are periodically told that Israel has never had a forum of leading ministers so businesslike and thorough; even Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman displays insight and responsibility at meetings, says Defense Minister Ehud Barak.

And who will attest to Barak's own talents and judgment? Perhaps those soldiers who never returned from battle? Seven ministers versus seven ships - not aircraft carriers, or even destroyers, but small boats, laden with hundreds of people. Not all are righteous, but neither are they terrorists. But suddenly, without warning, this barely seaworthy flotilla became a threatening armada.

Before the battle of Trafalgar, Admiral Horatio Nelson, like the Allied commanders before D-Day, understood that their country's fates hung in the balance. It's enough to make you despair when thinking about our leaders: For them, every day is D-Day. So what will happen when total war actually breaks out here?

And it's disturbing to think about our army, which trips every time it is ordered to march. And don't believe their promises that next time will be different. There are always plenty of excuses, but judged by the results, it's always the same old disaster.

Elite units are supposed to know how to take over a ship without sinking the state, how to overcome passengers wielding clubs and knives without sowing death, how to keep two pistols and a rifle from being wrested from them.

But a physical confrontation should never have been allowed to develop to begin with. If this was indeed a "political/media provocation," we should never have let ourselves become entangled in it.

Had we simply let the flotilla reach Gaza - an option that was proposed - a cry of victory would indeed have erupted from the other side, but it would have died out in a day or two. But the Israel of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Barak, of ministers Moshe Ya'alon and Benny Begin, Benjamin Ben-Eliezer and Eli Yishai and even Dan Meridor, is vying with Hamas and Hezbollah over who can produce the most resounding demonstrations of strength - which amount to nothing but humiliating evidence of weakness.

How did we so become so devoid of confidence in our ends that we instead put our trust in ways and means that dead-end on every passing ship? Had only we at least not dropped the soldiers one by one straight into the angry mob.

What ought to come next is a demand for a probe, but it seems pointless. Stupidity knows no bounds, and it is a ministerial prerogative. And what is boundless is also unfathomable.

So the septet will persist in its evil ways, endangering us more than any ship could, for madness will rule us. That gang in Jerusalem will insist on drowning us again and again, for there is no courage to change even after all the disasters.

And we will continue to fear our leaders - as if we didn't have enough to fear in Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

FACTS: Its Palestinian Land. Israel is the occupier, palestinians the occupied. Israel is the ethnic cleanser, palestinians the ethnically cleansed. Israel is the Oppressor, palestinians the oppressed.

 

[Colpy]

I am no fan of Benji...

But Ehud Barak is a great man, as a soldier, as a statesman, and as a peacemaker.

 

[clutch]

Huwaida Arraf, one of the Free Gaza Movement organizers, told CNN Israeli troops roughed her up when they responded aggressively to her ship, a smaller one in the flotilla that was near the Turkish vessel where the casualties occurred.
"They started coming after our ship," she told CNN, "so we took off and they charged us also. Eventually, they overtook our ship and they used concussion grenades, sound bombs and pellets."



Eyewitnesses recount Israel flotilla raid - CNN.com

 

[TenPenny]

(Sigh)

You mean the Chinese man who stood in front of the tanks heading for Tianamen Square.

That's probably what mHz was thinking.

I've long ago stopped expecting some people to have a clue what they are saying when they post on here.

 

[Colpy]

Oh, guess what?

The Israelis tried to deliver a portion of the cargo that had passed inspection........but delivery was refused.....by HAMAS!!!

Oh the poor Palestinians suffering must continue......

 

[MHz]

This tank.

I've long ago stopped expecting some people to have a clue what they are saying when they post on here.

As you keep proving.

 

[lone wolf]

Oh, guess what?

The Israelis tried to deliver a portion of the cargo that had passed inspection........but delivery was refused.....by HAMAS!!!

Oh the poor Palestinians suffering must continue......

Yeah, eh? It really makes me wonder how bad it had to be to make Hamas look like the better choice?