This might not be a bad idea. One Thread on this HST Tax thing, and
another on Testicles, etc...maybe in the Members Lounge and coming
up with the most creative nicknames for those things....
Anti HST Campaign hits referendum threshold
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This might not be a bad idea. One Thread on this HST Tax thing, and
another on Testicles, etc...maybe in the Members Lounge and coming
up with the most creative nicknames for those things....
Sounds like fun Ron, and we'll have a pictorial time-lapsed comparison, by Province.
I'm not too sure about that. It's kind of ironic but I dare say about 40% of the voters here today weren't voting when Bill Vanderzalm was the Premier 1986-89. Anyway at the time he was the worst pariah on the face of the earth (popular opinion) but a few really liked him. Now EVERYONE loves him because he's going to bat for us in fighting the H.S.T. Personally I think about 10% of those who voted for Campbell did so because they like him and the other 90% because they don't see any other choice. He tells the odd fib periodically................:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Hope not, if were not allowed to make disparaging remarks about Conservatives/Republicans, that would totally eliminate one poster (who can't discuss anything else) right off the forum...................:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
I'll start a "BALL'S" thread. This one can stay as the HST Tax Thread.
HST Tax talk goes into this Thread: http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/92910-anti-hst-campaign-hits-referendum-3.html
Ball's goes into this Thread: http://forums.canadiancontent.net/members-lounge/93032-balls.html
HST Tax talk goes into this Thread: http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/92910-anti-hst-campaign-hits-referendum-3.html
Ball's goes into this Thread: http://forums.canadiancontent.net/members-lounge/93032-balls.html
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Half the hysteria regarding HST is made up by NDP. Yeah, let's vote in the Pine-Beatle Lovers who destroyed our forests. Yeah, let's vote in the people who made B.C. # last in investment, employment growth, et al. Yeah, let's vote in the people who spent billions off the budget. Yeah, let's vote in the people who idolize Joseph Stalin and Chariman Mao and other mass murderers who murdered millions.
Yeah, sounds like a terrific idea to me. /Sarcasm. Bunch of leftist weirdos who claim they have the Union and Teacher vote. I work in an union and I know teachers and they certainty don't vote NDP.
Regardless we need HST. Plus we all know if NDP is elected they sure as hell wouldn't repeal HST, they'll just keep it on and milk the treasury for their hair brain ideas.
Don't like the B.C. Liberals? As soon as the NDP is rendered dead than the B.C. Liberals "Big Tent" (anti-NDP vote) wouldn't last long.
Yeah, sounds like a terrific idea to me. /Sarcasm. Bunch of leftist weirdos who claim they have the Union and Teacher vote. I work in an union and I know teachers and they certainty don't vote NDP.
Regardless we need HST. Plus we all know if NDP is elected they sure as hell wouldn't repeal HST, they'll just keep it on and milk the treasury for their hair brain ideas.
Don't like the B.C. Liberals? As soon as the NDP is rendered dead than the B.C. Liberals "Big Tent" (anti-NDP vote) wouldn't last long.
Let's hear from the Folks on this Forum on the East Coast of Canada who've
been dealing with HST for the last couple of years now....
been dealing with HST for the last couple of years now....
Of all the political parties (they are ALL corrupt) the N.D.P. is probably the best ...............in endeavours ....................where no money is involved.
I don’t have any views regarding NDP or Liberals in BC; I am not that familiar with BC politics (besides, I understand that Liberals is mostly the old Social Credit Party anyway).
However, I think the whole idea of having a referendum on HST is crazy. Government is not run by running to people on each and every issue. We can’t have people micromanage everything by majority vote.
Besides, where does it stop? Should the budget be put to a majority vote? Should individual parts of the budget be put to a majority vote? It is easy to see what will happen in that case. Majority will vote for every service provided for in the budget, will vote against every tax increase in the budget and will vote for zero deficit in addition to that. Is the government to square the circle, to walk on water then?
In a democracy, we elect representatives to govern. If you don’t like the way they are doing their job, vote them out at the next election. But government is not run by people micromanaging everything.
If HST is defeated in a referendum, the most charitable thing government could do is to ignore the referendum results and bring in HST anyway.
I have already mentioned what is happening in Ontario. If you asked people, I assume they will say they don't like it. However, there isn't much organized opposition to it.
In Ontario, it would be up to Conservative Party to organize the opposition. However, their leader, Hudak was ridiculed as a hypocrite when he wouldn't condemn Flaherty and Harper (both of them support the harmonization strongly) and would only condemn McGuinty.
Harmonization will happen in Ontario in a few months, I am not sure the exact date. But it is scheduled to go ahead.
Exactly. They vote in the representatives, whose job it is to govern, and not run to people on each and every issue, hold a referendum and then govern by referendum.
We have representative democracy in Canada; we don’t have a direct democracy. People are free to vote out the party in power at the next election if they are not satisfied with it. But it does not make any kind of sense to govern by referendum.
You are wrong here, not me. Are you claiming that we have direct democracy here in Canada, and not representative democracy?
We do not live in a democracy. No where close. Any government that holds a referendum and does not go with the results should be bumped. This government is in place in BC simply because the other parties were worse. Not because they were the best. If our choices are the same next time round, I won't vote. I don't believe a person should miss the chance but I won't vote for a party I don't believe in. In this case, I won't vote in a Premier I don't believe in. Both him and Colin Hansen are old news now. Bird cage liner.
Cheer up VanIsle, I don't care for either Campbell or Hanson but they are no better or worse than any other jurisdiction has to put up with. They are all tarred with the same brush- a bunch of bandits. I haven't voted in any referenda for a long time - have you? They are not usually a good thing anyway. YOu vote a person/party in because you have faith in them to do your business for four years and if they are not capable of doing that much you boot em out next election. We live in the best province of the best country in the world.
Bend over BC. You're next. All the effing referendums in the land won't save you. Referendums are for socialists and frenchies. Oh dear, I guess you guys qualify. Hope it works out. LOL!