Should Canada revoke freedom of religion for Muslims?

[Machjo]

Profiling as a minor flaw. What about Bryant Vinas:

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He exploited profiling to his advantage.

And what about what's her name, that blond-haired American woman who wanted to Bomb some place in Sweden. Again, profiling worked in her favour too.

You start profiling, and the terrorists will pick up on that and exploit it to their advantage as clearly they are now doing.

 

[Machjo]

Also, at one point profiling becomes outright harassment. I remember one friend who'd get pulled over by the same cop regularly but never get arrested.

Finally one day, my friend took out a pen and paper, wrote the cop's name and ID number, and told him that next time he stops him, he'd better make an arrest or my friend would lodge a formal complaint for harassment.
The cop left him alone after that.

But hey, profiling is fine, right.

 

[CDNBear]

As for Christians starting Holy Wars, you obviously haven't read Gibbon's Decline and Fall. They'd started the Crusades, and specifically and explicitly on religious grounds. But again, I wouldn't blame all Christians for this, but specifically the Roman Church of the time, which was essentially the government of the land.

:roll: Have you got anything from this century?

Same applies to those that bomb abortion clinics. We can't blame all Christians for that.

So tell me again how they have targeted entire countries there?

And what about the Balkans when UN troops were focusing mainly on protecting Muslims from the predominant Christian population.

Having first hand knowledge of that, as well as an extensive knowledge of the history prior to, I can safely say it had nothing to with being Christian, and everything to do with what I have expressed in this thread, as well as many others.

Yes but that also means condeming the innocent as well,first its the muslims,

Who's condemning. I just want Islam removed from the country. I don't want them murdered.

1 out of 5 criminals in canada are aboriginal so you exclude them too.

You can't change your race. And I also condemn many aspects of my Native community, so the point is moot.

Where does it end...?

When the violent ideology of Islam is removed from the west, before it's to late.

 

[CDNBear]

Profiling as a minor flaw. What about Bryant Vinas:

Bryant Neal Vinas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He exploited profiling to his advantage.

And what about what's her name, that blond-haired American woman who wanted to Bomb some place in Sweden. Again, profiling worked in her favour too.

You start profiling, and the terrorists will pick up on that and exploit it to their advantage as clearly they are now doing.

Ya, that's why ElAl is doing so well...:roll:

Also, at one point profiling becomes outright harassment. I remember one friend who'd get pulled over by the same cop regularly but never get arrested.

Finally one day, my friend took out a pen and paper, wrote the cop's name and ID number, and told him that next time he stops him, he'd better make an arrest or my friend would lodge a formal complaint for harassment.
The cop left him alone after that.

But hey, profiling is fine, right.

Your point?

 

[Ulgundo]

''I just Islam removed from the country. I don't want them murdered.''
For some,not being able to practice their religion is an equal to death if not worse.
''When the violent ideology of Islam''
As i said its not islam itself that is violent(maybe you should take a look at Kuran)but a specific group of so called ''Muslims'' who has taken over a religion and perverted it for their own gain.

 

[CDNBear]

For some,not being able to practice their religion is an equal to death if not worse.

Then I suggest reevaluating their priorities.

As i said its not islam itself that is violent but a specific group of so called ''Muslims'' who has taken over a religion and perverted it for their own gain.

While the rest sit idly by. I see that as culpability.

(maybe you should take a look at Kuran)

Read it, along with the Old Testament, New Testament and the Torah.

 

[Ulgundo]

For some,not being able to practice their religion is an equal to death if not worse.
''Then I suggest reevaluating their priorities.''
Religious people see this world only as a gateway to the next one as its said in the holy books(and that dosen't only goes for muslims)so what u're saying dosen't make any sence.
''I see that as culpability''
What are the rest supposed to do? Its the country thats supposed to keep the citizens safe not the other way around.

 

[CDNBear]

Religious people see this world only as a gateway to the next one as its said in the holy books(and that dosen't only goes for muslims)so what u're saying dosen't make any sence.

In your opinion.

What are the rest supposed to do?

Expose, assist the authorities and render their community off limits to any and all deviant or dangerous manipulations of Islam. Until then, nothing less then a complete ban is good enough.

Its the country thats supposed to keep the citizens safe not the other way around.

Ummm, that's completely false.

 

[petros]

How many abortion clinic staff have raided a country of it's wealth and resources to deserve terror attacks?

 

[JLM]

No.

But wanting to criminalize Islam itself as is described in the OP certainly is in my

opinion.

WHOA- hang on- seems the situation is changing as we go along. The O.P. mentioned Muslim not Islam - Muslim is a bastardized version. No form of the word "criminal" was in the O.P. or referring to the poll. So I suggest the results of the poll are invalid.

 

[CDNBear]

How many abortion clinic staff have raided a country of it's wealth and resources to deserve terror attacks?

How many people on the flights, or in the World Trade center did so?

 

[petros]

Is veiled women is not better than one with her legs spread wide open on a stage handing out posters to the first alleged Christian that nails her twat first with an iced loonie?

 

[petros]

How many people on the flights, or in the World Trade center did so?

Some of the types of business that rented in the trade centers have indeed raided and pillaged nations for their wealth and resources and back dictaors and madmen.

You can only do it for so long before somebody blows a gasket and tries something violent.

 

[CDNBear]

Some of the types of business that rented in the trade centers have indeed raided and pillaged nations for their wealth and resources and back dictaors and madmen.

You can only do it for so long before somebody blows a gasket and tries something violent.

Fair enough. But if you can justify murder, then I can justify banning Islam.

 

[Ulgundo]

''Expose, assist the authorities and render their community off limits to any and all deviant or dangerous manipulations of Islam. Until then, nothing less then a complete ban is good enough.''
Yes they should,but they don't have to...(For the sake of conversation lets say they aren't been helpful,its not because they are lazy but afraid...)
According to your logic banning judaism all together because a jewish person hijacked an airplane for his own purposes and the other jewish people didn't stop him,is completely ok.
An innocent person is an innocent person...

 

[Ulgundo]

''In your opinion''
No,its the fact.

 

[petros]

Personally I'd like to see all religions not banned but having it kept away from children until they are old enough to decide for themselve whether or not there is a boogie man in the sky and one under the ground.

 

[Ulgundo]

Personally I'd like to see all religions not banned but having it kept away from children until they are old enough to decide for themselve whether or not there is a boogie man in the sky and one under the ground.

Thumbs up

 

[CDNBear]

Yes they should,but they don't have to...

If they want me to protect them, they do.

(For the sake of conversation lets say they aren't been helpful,its not because they are lazy but afraid...)

I've been afraid too, but when the adopted country you've come to, asks for your help, come hell or high water, do it.

According to your logic banning judaism all together because a jewish person hijacked an airplane for his own purposes and the other jewish people didn't stop him,is completely ok.

Sure, if you want to just make sh!t up.

An innocent person is an innocent person...

No one is innocent.

''In your opinion''
No,its the fact.

No it isn't. It's an opinion.

Personally I'd like to see all religions not banned but having it kept away from children until they are old enough to decide for themselve whether or not there is a boogie man in the sky and one under the ground.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Ulgundo]

''Sure, if you want to just make sh!t up''
Thats what you said...
''No one is innocent.''
U're going outside the topic in hand''
''No it isn't. It's an opinion.''
I'm not going to give Bible as an example because i haven't read it completely even though im pretty sure its the same but in Kuran,it is told countless times that the lives we are living now are only temporary and sort of a test,so the believers of kuran believe that also since you cannot pick any commandement you like and ignore the ones you don't,ergo it is not an opinion,it is a fact.