Should Canada revoke freedom of religion for Muslims?

[petros]

Yeah there really is something wrong with The Klan exisiting in Nor Am isn't there?

Between 1882 (when reliable statistics were first collected) and 1968 (when the classic forms of lynching had disappeared), 4,743 persons died of lynching, 3,446 of them black men and women. Mississippi (539 black victims, 42 white) led this grim parade of death, followed by Georgia (492, 39), Texas (352, 141), Louisiana (335, 56), and Alabama (299, 48). From 1882 to 1901, the annual number nationally usually exceeded 100; 1892 had a record 230 deaths (161 black, 69 white). Although lynchings declined somewhat in the 20th century, there were still 97 in 1908 (89 black, 8 white), 83 in the racially troubled postwar year of 1919 (76, 7, plus some 25 race riots), 30 in 1926 (23, 7), and 28 in 1933 (24, 4)."

 

[CDNBear]

But then you have to make a distinction between religion and fanaticism.

No I don't. So long as the religion protects, shelters or otherwise hinders investigation, detection or prosecution, I don't.

Rooting out McVeigh-type Christians is quite different from persecuting the Christian Faith altogether. The same applies to Islam.

Sadly, Islam seems to have far more and far greater dangers.

What appears to be happening though is that the standard of distinction expected for the Christian Faith seems to fly out the window when it comes to applying the same distinction among Muslims, whereby all Muslims are guilty by association.

Not at all. They're guilty by action, or inaction. Whatever the case may be.

Yet we seem to be applying a very different standard for Muslims, ignoring that separate Muslim organizations have no more to do with each other as Timothy McVeigh has to do with the the Roman Catholic Church for example.

I'm sorry, can you point out where Timothy stated clearly his religious reasons for his actions?

Actually, can you point out Christian Priests calling for religious wars, fatwa's and jihad?

Did I miss a memo or something?

 

[CDNBear]

Yeah there really is something wrong with The Klan exisiting in Nor Am isn't there?

Yep.

Between 1882 (when reliable statistics were first collected) and 1968 (when the classic forms of lynching had disappeared), 4,743 persons died of lynching, 3,446 of them black men and women. Mississippi (539 black victims, 42 white) led this grim parade of death, followed by Georgia (492, 39), Texas (352, 141), Louisiana (335, 56), and Alabama (299, 48). From 1882 to 1901, the annual number nationally usually exceeded 100; 1892 had a record 230 deaths (161 black, 69 white). Although lynchings declined somewhat in the 20th century, there were still 97 in 1908 (89 black, 8 white), 83 in the racially troubled postwar year of 1919 (76, 7, plus some 25 race riots), 30 in 1926 (23, 7), and 28 in 1933 (24, 4)."

Awesome...Sorry, I missed the dates...was this just recently, or has the west actually moved on and up...

Oh ya, that's right, we did.

 

[petros]

Are we really so civilized? Keep this in mind. We are all 9 meals away from total and utter chaos.

There is only 72 hours worth of food on hand in Nor Am. After that is gone your religion won't mean a thing.

It's easy to say we are peaceful and wonderful people but in reality none of us have any idea what we are willing to do for a bottle of water until that time comes.

We are alot closer to disaster and finding out the truth about ourselves than anyone dares admit.

 

[petros]

Yep.

Awesome...Sorry, I missed the dates...was this just recently, or has the west actually moved on and up...

Oh ya, that's right, we did.

Did we? Or did they stop keeping track of Klan murders?

 

[CDNBear]

Are we really so civilized? Keep this in mind. We are all 9 meals away from total and utter chaos.

I somewhat agree. And I think for the most part, domestically we are pretty civilized. No public stoning's, no laws forcing women to be wrapped from head to toe, no state religion.

There is only 72 hours worth of food on hand in Nor Am. After that is gone your religion won't mean a thing.

That depends on who you are. I will never go hungry...;-)

It's easy to say we are peaceful and wonderful people but in reality none of us have any idea what we are willing to do for a bottle of water until that time comes.

Not true.

We are alot closer to disaster and finding out the truth about ourselves than anyone dares admit.

A little over dramatic don't you think?

Did we? Or did they stop keeping track of Klan murders?

We did. Not only did we. It's now a special kind of crime, it's called a hate crime, and comes with a federal sentence. Although I must admit that was a dark part of North America's recent past, laws have been made to stem it. The general populace won't stand for that kind of ideology and as a general group, we look to make life more and more open and free domestically.

 

[petros]

You have a lot more faith in Canadians than I do but how we would react remains speculative.

The fact remains that humans are animals and animals react violently when it comes to obtaining and or protecting food and water.

 

[CDNBear]

You have a lot more faith in Canadians than I do but how we would react remains speculative.

Not all Canadians and not on all issues.

The fact remains that humans are animals and animals react violently when it comes to obtaining and or protecting food and water.

Oh I agree with you there. But i won't be flying a plane into your place of business anytime soon, so I can drink your tap water petros.

 

[Ulgundo]

Actually, can you point out Christian Priests calling for religious wars, fatwa's and jihad?quote]
Again,you cannot take something that a specific group of so called ''Muslims'' who has taken over a religion and perverted it for their own gain does,and put the blame on all.

 

[CDNBear]

Again,you cannot take something that a specific group of so called ''Muslims'' who has taken over a religion and perverted it for their own gain does,and put the blame on all.

Why not?

 

[Ulgundo]

Why not?

Well,im pretty sure that qualifies under racism...

 

[CDNBear]

Well,im pretty sure that qualifies under racism...

Why? Islam isn't a race.

 

[Ulgundo]

Quoting JLM Does recognizing the faults of Muslim qualify a guy as a "wacho"? LOL
Quoting CDNBear
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Yes. Erroneously, it makes you a racist too apparently, or so I've been told.
I meant stereotping but i thought i should speak with you the way you speak with others...

 

[CDNBear]

Quoting JLM Does recognizing the faults of Muslim qualify a guy as a "wacho"? LOL
Quoting CDNBear
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Yes. Erroneously, it makes you a racist too apparently, or so I've been told.
I meant stereotping but i thought i should speak with you the way you speak with others...

:roll:

1, note the italic print of the word racist. 2, note the word "erroneously" at the beginning of the statement.

You may want to try that again.

Islam isn't a race.

 

[Ulgundo]

Sorry,my bad i didn't pay attention,never mind as i said earlier i meant stereotyping.

 

[CDNBear]

Sorry,my bad i didn't pay attention,never mind as i said earlier i meant stereotyping.

Fine and so?

I also support profiling for the same rason. It can save lives.

 

[Machjo]

Well,im pretty sure that qualifies under racism...

Technically, that would be religious prejudice and not racism, seeing that there are blond-haired and blue-eyed Swedish Muslims in the world.

 

[Machjo]

As for Christians starting Holy Wars, you obviously haven't read Gibbon's Decline and Fall. They'd started the Crusades, and specifically and explicitly on religious grounds. But again, I wouldn't blame all Christians for this, but specifically the Roman Church of the time, which was essentially the government of the land.

 

[Machjo]

Same applies to those that bomb abortion clinics. We can't blame all Christians for that. And what about the Balkans when UN troops were focusing mainly on protecting Muslims from the predominant Christian population. Again, not all Christians were involved and it would be just as wrong to single out the Christian faith for this.

 

[Ulgundo]

Fine and so?

I also support profiling for the same rason. It can save lives.

Yes but that also means condeming the innocent as well,first its the muslims,1 out of 5 criminals in canada are aboriginal so you exclude them too.Where does it end...?